Shaky Cam Games

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But then, if we follow your logic, what is Cloverfield if it's not a movie?

Beats me. A series of moving picturs?

Ah okay. I think I'm starting to understand what you mean now when you say Cloverfield has no plot. I wasn't quite sure, so that's why the examples I gave kinda ranged the gamut of "nothing happens" to "I don't get what happened".

Anyway, your plot description of Cloverfield pretty much matches that of every other disaster/monster movie out there, especially the older ones which is definitely what Cloverfield was trying to parody. There was also the side plot of the main character trying to find/confess his love for that girl, which also is quite common in those types of movies.

Oh, sure, a lot of that happens in disaster/monster movies. Most of them don't get the 76% on rotten tomatoes that Cloverfield gets, though. Or do they? I confess, I haven't checked.

 

[boholikeu]

But then, if we follow your logic, what is Cloverfield if it's not a movie?

Beats me. A series of moving picturs?

Exactly, my point is that if you don't think it's a movie you have to create some new arbitrary label for it, whereas if Mirror's Edge isn't a shooter you can just say it's a platformer.

Ah okay. I think I'm starting to understand what you mean now when you say Cloverfield has no plot. I wasn't quite sure, so that's why the examples I gave kinda ranged the gamut of "nothing happens" to "I don't get what happened".

Anyway, your plot description of Cloverfield pretty much matches that of every other disaster/monster movie out there, especially the older ones which is definitely what Cloverfield was trying to parody. There was also the side plot of the main character trying to find/confess his love for that girl, which also is quite common in those types of movies.

Oh, sure, a lot of that happens in disaster/monster movies. Most of them don't get the 76% on rotten tomatoes that Cloverfield gets, though. Or do they? I confess, I haven't checked.

Most of them don't, but if they have some sort of "twist" to them similar to Cloverfield's shaky cam they often do.

Now whether or not Cloverfield deserved its accolades solely for that "innovation" is debatable, but you still can't claim it's not a movie.

 

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Exactly, my point is that if you don't think it's a movie you have to create some new arbitrary label for it, whereas if Mirror's Edge isn't a shooter you can just say it's a platformer.

Well, I could have been less nice and could have said "it's a waste of time". Which I think it is. But really, such a label would be useful; I'm sure I'll encounter more things that are called movies in the future that also don't deserve that label.

Now whether or not Cloverfield deserved its accolades solely for that "innovation" is debatable, but you still can't claim it's not a movie.

I totally can, and I will

 

[boholikeu]

Exactly, my point is that if you don't think it's a movie you have to create some new arbitrary label for it, whereas if Mirror's Edge isn't a shooter you can just say it's a platformer.

Well, I could have been less nice and could have said "it's a waste of time". Which I think it is. But really, such a label would be useful; I'm sure I'll encounter more things that are called movies in the future that also don't deserve that label.

Now whether or not Cloverfield deserved its accolades solely for that "innovation" is debatable, but you still can't claim it's not a movie.

I totally can, and I will

Haha, fair enough. Let me rephrase that then: if you want your opinion to be taken seriously by others, you can't still claim that Cloverfield isn't a movie. =)

 

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Haha, fair enough. Let me rephrase that then: if you want your opinion to be taken seriously by others, you can't still claim that Cloverfield isn't a movie. =)

You mean if I want to be taken seriously by YOU, and maybe others with opinions like yours

 

[boholikeu]

Haha, fair enough. Let me rephrase that then: if you want your opinion to be taken seriously by others, you can't still claim that Cloverfield isn't a movie. =)

You mean if I want to be taken seriously by YOU, and maybe others with opinions like yours

I'll hazard a guess that there are still more people in this world that consider Cloverfield a movie, even if they don't personally like it. =)

Anyway, it was good talking to you, but since we're at the "endlessly trade witty one-liners" stage of the discussion I think I'll bow out. We both made out points.