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Yeah, saw that on FB the other day, it's so true.
It is really weird how often that happens. Even when something tries to avoid it like The Last Jedi by having Rey's parents being nobody's who don't matter, people whine and ***** and they retcon it into something really stupid.
 
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It is really weird how often that happens. Even when something tries to avoid it like The Last Jedi by having Rey's parents being nobody's who don't matter, people whine and ***** and they retcon it into something really stupid.
Eh, lots of people believe certain bloodlines are better and want to be ruled by people with divine right and bloodline. To varying degrees, though.
 

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Eh, lots of people believe certain bloodlines are better and want to be ruled by people with divine right and bloodline. To varying degrees, though.
It really does seem like it, like the restoring of the true king, which is always a bloodline thing, or the good rich verses the bad rich, which is always old money who is chill vs new money who is exploitive and posing.
 
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It is really weird how often that happens. Even when something tries to avoid it like The Last Jedi by having Rey's parents being nobody's who don't matter, people whine and ***** and they retcon it into something really stupid.
The reason I applauded The Last Jedi and once I heard the retcon in Rise of Skywalker I decided not to watch it.
How I imagine things went down:
"Okay Mr. Johnson, Mr. Abrams left a lot of open questions for the sequel, chief among them being the unknown parentage of the protagonist. Given that the audience is the most invested in her and she has the most impressive powers in the setting and this is something she as a character cares the most about, I am sure you can find a dramatically satisfying answer to that question."
"I see what you mean." *turns to crew* "Okay guys, as thing turns out, Rey's parents are nobodies that abandoned her for drinking money, since that is logically what someone forced to live as a junk scrapper could expect. It might suck for her but it instils the lesson not to get to hung up on where you've come from since that is something that prevents people from growing in real life. Furthermore, her Jedi powers being strong need no explanation since it is already established in the lore that Force powers can manifest with anyone, we might throw in a scene with one of the kids at the end about this. The parents being nobodies also helps people get over the ridiculous notion in fandom that each and every character must in some way be related to previous characters that is just their nostalgia talking and which..."
"WOAH-woah-woah there buster, when I requested that you answer the question of her parentage in a dramatically satisfying way, I meant: 'What if her parents were actually one of the (established) BAD guys?'."

Though now that I read the Wikipedia article on Rise of Skywalker I realize that I should've said "grandparent".

Since Rey is the analogue to Luke of the original trilogy and the twist in the second movie of that series was that he was the child of the bad guy it makes sense that they'd go for something similar.
 

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It really does seem like it, like the restoring of the true king, which is always a bloodline thing, or the good rich verses the bad rich, which is always old money who is chill vs new money who is exploitive and posing.
The point of inherited kingships is having someone that can smoothly be put in power. Imagine all the stupid shit that happens with our elections but then remove our vast communications network and have most of the people involved be armed and willing to fight.

The key sin in all of it is the desire for power.
 

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I've discovered the webcomic butajape today and read it through. In general it provided plenty of nice gags, but if I must pick one out I'd take the first one I read:

Naruto and Sasuke sweat profusely and nervously....

This is why I don't bother with most anime that has the kind of crap. Or the writers put themselves in a corner and make up some bull crap that was never hinted at previously.
 
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Since Rey is the analogue to Luke of the original trilogy and the twist in the second movie of that series was that he was the child of the bad guy it makes sense that they'd go for something similar.
As I understand they also did it in the dumbest way possible, like I think it wasn't even the real Palatine, it was a clone of his. Either way, its stupid and I hate that everything in that stupid universe is tied around one single dumb family. But I also tend not to like it when some IP seems totally reliant on a character despite having a big universe with lots of other stories they could go after, so that one character just becomes more and more special cause we need reasons for everything and just having better tech isn't good enough.

The point of inherited kingships is having someone that can smoothly be put in power. Imagine all the stupid shit that happens with our elections but then remove our vast communications network and have most of the people involved be armed and willing to fight.

The key sin in all of it is the desire for power.
Yeah, but the trope isn't really about the transition of power, its about good king dead, bad unrelated king comes in, ruins things for awhile, find last member of good kinds bloodline, defeat bad king, last of blood line becomes king, hookers and blow. I suppose occasionally its the bad son who comes in and ruins things or the kings sister, but it always comes back to the last survivor of the blood line coming back and restoring order. Its never "hey, this other guy has some good ideas, lets just make him king" or a situation where the king had a lot of kids so finding the best one becomes a thing.
 
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