Sherlock Holmes 2: More Moriarty And Cross-Dressing

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Pallindromemordnillap said:
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As a huge Sherlock Holmes fan I enjoyed the movie but thought it was like the dumbed down, sanitized summer blockbuster version.

They got Sherlock Holmes's arrogance and awesomeness right, but they left out his edgiest aspect: Sherlock Holmes did mad drugs, son. Holmes not only had a healthy morphine habit, but also would shoot up cocaine subcutaneously (under the skin, aka "skinpopping") to ward of the "ennui" between cases. I didn't mind the silly zaniness so much as the kid friendly, PG13 bullshit. Even the (totally awesome) BBC series showed his drug paraphenalia and Watson's negative reaction to it. Gods forbid we have an awesome hero that indulges in proscribed substances. That said, I'll watch the sequel, but it's really more of a children's movie compared to the real deal.
"You do know that what you're drinking is prescribed for operations of the eye?"

Watson says something like that to Holmes in the film. There's also the way he forgot it was November early on. They don't overtly bring it up, but it seems fairly obvious Ritchie-Holmes is off his head just as much as book-Holmes
Yeah, I got the impression he was high on something the whole movie. It's definitely a downplayed aspect of the Ritchie film, but it's there. My guess? Probably didn't want to make too big a deal of it until later movies, when the status quo, the "norm" for a Sherlock Holmes case has been established, and then they can get comfy with making his drug addiction more a central element of the story. That's how I'd write it, anyway.
 

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Liked the first one, but the accents in that trailer, very off-putting for some reason.
Maybe it's all the british sitcoms I've been watching and I'm not use to such posh accents...
 

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This isn't even a blip on my radar considering that the Stephen Moffat series set in modern-day is so freaking amazing on its own. Also, has Stephen Fry in it.
 

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The first movie was surprisingly good. Hopefully robert downy jr likes the character more so he isn't phoning it in like he was in iron man 2.
 

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HapexIndustries said:
As a huge Sherlock Holmes fan I enjoyed the movie but thought it was like the dumbed down, sanitized summer blockbuster version.

They got Sherlock Holmes's arrogance and awesomeness right, but they left out his edgiest aspect: Sherlock Holmes did mad drugs, son. Holmes not only had a healthy morphine habit, but also would shoot up cocaine subcutaneously (under the skin, aka "skinpopping") to ward of the "ennui" between cases. I didn't mind the silly zaniness so much as the kid friendly, PG13 bullshit. Even the (totally awesome) BBC series showed his drug paraphenalia and Watson's negative reaction to it. Gods forbid we have an awesome hero that indulges in proscribed substances. That said, I'll watch the sequel, but it's really more of a children's movie compared to the real deal.

"Which is it to-day," I [Watson] asked, "morphine or cocaine?"
He raised his eyes languidly from the old black-letter volume which he had opened.
"It is cocaine," he said, "a seven-per-cent solution. Would you care to try it?"

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[Holmes:] "Hence the cocaine. I cannot live without brain-work. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window here. Was ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them? Crime is commonplace, existence is commonplace, and no qualities save those which are commonplace have any function upon earth."
"Alas, there is always the cocaine."

But er... that's an awful lot of explosions for something called A Game of Shadows. I liked the first one, but I fear it will suffer from Mission Impossible disease, whereby the sequels turn more and more into action block buster junk with each iteration.

Ah well, I'm sure I will be entertained... if not by the movie itself, then the bitching about it afterwards :)
 
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Andy of Comix Inc said:
This isn't even a blip on my radar considering that the Stephen Moffat series set in modern-day is so freaking amazing on its own. Also, has Stephen Fry in it.
Actually its the movie that has Stephen Fry in it. His role of Holmes' brother Mycroft is played by Mark Gatiss in the TV series
 

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Pallindromemordnillap said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
This isn't even a blip on my radar considering that the Stephen Moffat series set in modern-day is so freaking amazing on its own. Also, has Stephen Fry in it.
Actually its the movie that has Stephen Fry in it. His role of Holmes' brother Mycroft is played by Mark Gatiss in the TV series
Ohhhhh.

Now I'm torn. On the one hand, the Stephen Moffat series is one of the most clever uses of a reboot/reimagining in the history of television.

On the other hand, the other one has Stephen Fry in it. I guess I can be excited about both... I'm going to go and get ahold of the first film now, if it has Stephen Fry in it, it must be good... oh, also it's critically acclaimed and stuff I guess
 

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oh hell yeah. what more needs to be said the first was a brilliant movie with some action... kinda like -
 
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Andy of Comix Inc said:
Pallindromemordnillap said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
This isn't even a blip on my radar considering that the Stephen Moffat series set in modern-day is so freaking amazing on its own. Also, has Stephen Fry in it.
Actually its the movie that has Stephen Fry in it. His role of Holmes' brother Mycroft is played by Mark Gatiss in the TV series
Ohhhhh.

Now I'm torn. On the one hand, the Stephen Moffat series is one of the most clever uses of a reboot/reimagining in the history of television.

On the other hand, the other one has Stephen Fry in it. I guess I can be excited about both... I'm going to go and get ahold of the first film now, if it has Stephen Fry in it, it must be good... oh, also it's critically acclaimed and stuff I guess
Strictly speaking Mycroft is only mentioned by name in the first film. He'll only be appearing in all his Stephen-Fry-National-Hero glory in the second one