Sherlock Scored Star Trek 2 Role with iPhone Audition

Sonic Doctor

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After the abomination that was the last Star Trek movie, may we please get a new Star Trek movie that is set in the main timeline with actors that actually have some age on them so we don't have Star Trek 90210 like last time.

Or at least may we get a new tv series that is more in the style of ST:TNG, DS9, or Voyager. Something that isn't made out to be all hip, cool, and overly flashy for the tweens, teens, and hipsters, like the JJ travesty.

Basically something that is just aimed at sci-fi and core Star Trek fans.
 

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Sonic Doctor said:
After the abomination that was the last Star Trek movie, may we please get a new Star Trek movie that is set in the main timeline with actors that actually have some age on them so we don't have Star Trek 90210 like last time.

Or at least may we get a new tv series that is more in the style of ST:TNG, DS9, or Voyager. Something that isn't made out to be all hip, cool, and overly flashy for the tweens, teens, and hipsters, like the JJ travesty.

Basically something that is just aimed at sci-fi and core Star Trek fans.
You mean the same crowd that allowed the Star Trek franchise to die by abandoning the films after Insurrection? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result.
 

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Sounds intriguing. Cumberbatch does a believable Sherlock, getting a lot of the character's nuances perfectly.

Never been a Trekkie myself so I can't speculate on what villain would be ideal but I'm sure Cumberbatch will do a fantastic job.
 

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Wold be Damn sad if Khan gets sidelined to make room for more hallway running as happened to Nero.
 

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Sonic Doctor said:
After the abomination that was the last Star Trek movie, may we please get a new Star Trek movie that is set in the main timeline with actors that actually have some age on them so we don't have Star Trek 90210 like last time.

Or at least may we get a new tv series that is more in the style of ST:TNG, DS9, or Voyager. Something that isn't made out to be all hip, cool, and overly flashy for the tweens, teens, and hipsters, like the JJ travesty.

Basically something that is just aimed at sci-fi and core Star Trek fans.
No, you can't. Though you could always go and re-watch First Contact or DS9.
 

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GoddyofAus said:
Sonic Doctor said:
After the abomination that was the last Star Trek movie, may we please get a new Star Trek movie that is set in the main timeline with actors that actually have some age on them so we don't have Star Trek 90210 like last time.

Or at least may we get a new tv series that is more in the style of ST:TNG, DS9, or Voyager. Something that isn't made out to be all hip, cool, and overly flashy for the tweens, teens, and hipsters, like the JJ travesty.

Basically something that is just aimed at sci-fi and core Star Trek fans.
You mean the same crowd that allowed the Star Trek franchise to die by abandoning the films after Insurrection? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result.
Not to mention that compared to what other series have accomplished Star Trek's moralizing and attempts to tackle big issues have always been a little ham-fisted, it isn't terrible but it has always had trouble following through when things get serious. I love the franchise for it's classic status but if it wants to stay relevant it has to change, not only to match the greater sophistication of an audience already used to the foundation Star Trek helped to lay, but to cope with a much more complicated idea of what sophistication even means.

Yes Star Trek XI was kinda simple, but it nailed the crucial humor, heart and camp the show demands, making me care more about the original Enterprise crew then I have in any of the original series episodes I've ever seen. It wasn't a perfect template for everything to come, it was an attempt to focus on fixing the things the series has always struggled with. The action was flawless, the art design was beautiful and the small glimpses we get into the world were more detailed and believable then ever before.

If they can bring a deeper plot in on top of all the progress they made in those areas and keep the same strong writing base, I see no reason why Star Trek 2 can't become one of, if not the, finest moment in the franchise.
 

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GoddyofAus said:
Sonic Doctor said:
You mean the same crowd that allowed the Star Trek franchise to die by abandoning the films after Insurrection? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result.
Whatever, Nemesis was good and it came after Insurrection.

MarsProbe said:
No, you can't. Though you could always go and re-watch First Contact or DS9.
I could re-watch it all because everything leading up to and Nemesis was good. Enterprise was okay, but it would have been much better if they hadn't had that Temporal Cold War at the core of the series, and just made it the traditional exploration stories and whatnot.

But, I guess when it comes to the Escapist, there aren't many if any people that like the traditional like me. I find that very sad, because that means the death of Star Trek.

The same already happened with Stargate with how they tried to do things all different with Universe with a mostly young team, with angsty youth-like stories, where it is all about relationships instead of the sci-fi, and using that stupid grainy close up to face filming style that the new Battlestar Galactica used. SyFy, hurr durr, tried to blame the ratings on that it was aired on a bad night. Oh no, it couldn't possibly be that they didn't make it like a traditional Stargate series.

People need to learn that you just don't mess with the traditional set up of a franchise, at least when science fiction is concerned, you just end up messing it up, ruining it in the end. ST:TNG was successful with bringing Star Trek back because it kept to the history, and kept to the traditional style story telling. Same goes for DS9 and Voyager, they lasted just as long because while they had their differences, they were exactly the same at the core. It is just plain common sense.
 

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Guy couldn't act to save his life. But, given how popular the abortion Sherlock is, I guess standards have fallen.
Remember, this is about the BBC series, which is awesome, not about the recent Hollywood movie directed by Guy Ritche, which was a piece of shit.

I don't really see why the fact that the video was recorded on an iPhone somehow made it into the news story. Wouldn't "phone" have yielded exactly the same news?
 

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Honestly, I hope he isn't playing Khan.

Khan was a minor villain in the original series - a one episode wonder soon forgotten. Much like Nomad.

As awesome as Khan was in the original ST2, his presence in the movie made little sense. Why did both of the original Star Trek films insist on being reboots of fairly lame episodes? They did it to Nomad in ST1, and they did it with Khan in ST2. Not that ST2 wasn't good, but it didn't need baggage of a lame episode. ST3 and 4 managed to be great without relying on ripping off old episodes - as did ST6. (ST5, of course, was a reboot of the episode Roddenberry could never get made - mostly because it was terrible).

Oh, and all of the Next Gen movies - every single one - was terrible. Picard was out of character, everyone else other than Data got screen-time cut down to the minimum, and all the interesting character development in season 7 of TNG (not to mention DS9) got thrown out the window.

... what was I saying? Oh, right - Khan.

Seriously, they can do better on villains. There are some really good ones from the Original Series. Or - shocking idea - what about remaking one of the episodes that didn't HAVE a villain? City of the Edge for Forever? Devil in the Dark?

Balance of Terror? Okay, Balance of Terror has a villain, and they might not want to revisit the Romulans so soon, but... that would be freakin awesome. They could combine it with The Enterprise Incident for a meatier plot.

Or maybe Day of the Dove for some Klingon action?

Seriously, there is way more interesting stuff than Khan. Here's hoping that Cumberbatch gets something other than a frozen mad-man to play.