Should organ donation be manditory?

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Riff Moonraker

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Having the CHOICE to donate your organs is fine, but making it mandatory is infringing upon your rights, in my opinion. Just like having the choice to donate to charity is a fine and good thing, but forcing people to give to charity is the equivalent to robbery. You earned it, or were born with it, its YOURS to do with as you choose.
 

WouldYouKindly

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Absolutely. You don't need that heart anymore, give it up. Taking them with you is just selfish, it's like getting buried in your car, someone could certainly use it more than you.
 

Giest4life

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AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
 

AndyFromMonday

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Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
So you have the right to poison yourself with anthrax knowing full well others might contract it and eventually die?
 

Rayansaki

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I agree 100%. It shouldn't be an opt in thing, but an opt out thing. Not mandatory tho.
 

Kyoufuu

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Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
You have the right to inject methamphetamines into yourself? That's news to me.
 

Giest4life

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Sylvine said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?
Oh, if You want to put it this way... sure. It's the same as believing You are a fairy. You are entitled to believe that, or feel about it one way or another. It's just most probably not true.

You cannot have control over something when You are dead, because in order to have control over something, You have to be alive. That's a tautology.

Finding something distasteful is not a very objective argument to base legislature on. Sure, it's still done, but that doesn't mean there won't be attempts to bust such arguments on a forum. Not wanting an opt-out system due to not liking the idea of not having control over Your body when You die, is like... not wanting it due to not liking the idea of the sky being blue. Okay, You don't like the idea, but it's kinda sorta true. You can attempt to control what happens after Your death, but You can never really control it.

So You, personally, can't control it for sure anyway, and You feel strongly enough about it to presumably fill out an opt-out-form should organ donorship become the default state as per legislature of Your country. So there's no logical reason to be against it.

~Sylv
Finding something distasteful is a valid argument because I don't need to explain my personal opinions.

I won't care about my body if I'm dead, right? I care about my body when I'm dead because I am currently alive. And if I feel I don't like something in the future, I will not approve of it now.

I'm not looking out for social welfare, I am not out for the greater good. I find the idea of government having control over my body by default as repulsive, and I oppose all laws that aim to reach that effect.
 

Giest4life

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Kyoufuu said:
Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
You have the right to inject methamphetamines? That's news to me.
Yes, I do. Unfortunately, some dipshit in Washington thinks I don't.
 

Shio

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Kenko said:
Hiname said:
You want my organs? Fine, pay my living relativs for everything you take. Im not the wellfare and most certainly not after death, either.
Hadn't thought of that. Im with him/her/it on this one!
Our relatives can make a fortune! I wonder how much my cold, icy heart is worth...
 

TheEndlessSleep

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Shio said:
Firstly: you do cares what happens to your body, else you wouldn't donate your organs. If you really didn't care, you'd let anyone decide what to do.

Secondly: other people's problems aren't mine. If they want them, they can pay for them.
1): No, I DON'T care what happens to my body...; it could be carved up for organs (fine), thrown in a ditch and buried (fine), burned (fine), fed to lions (fine), humped by a necrophiliac (all fine).

I don't specifically want donate my organs, I just don't care if they get taken once I'm dead.



2): I really hope that's a cop-out and not your actual opinion.
 

Giest4life

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AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
So you have the right to poison yourself with anthrax knowing full well others might contract it and eventually die?
Yeap.

EDIT: One word answers are not acceptable.

Yeah, I actually do. That would be ill advised, but I've the right to do that.
 

Kyoufuu

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Giest4life said:
Kyoufuu said:
Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
You have the right to inject methamphetamines? That's news to me.
Yes, I do. Unfortunately, some dipshit in Washington thinks I don't.
Who is, in this case, dictating your right? It sounds like you are, and this may be news to you, champ, but you don't get to dictate your own rights.
 

Shio

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TheEndlessSleep said:
Shio said:
Firstly: you do cares what happens to your body, else you wouldn't donate your organs. If you really didn't care, you'd let anyone decide what to do.

Secondly: other people's problems aren't mine. If they want them, they can pay for them.
1): No, I DON'T care what happens to my body...; it could be carved up for organs (fine), thrown in a ditch and buried (fine), burned (fine), fed to lions (fine), humped by a necrophiliac (all fine).

I don't specifically want donate my organs, I just don't care if they get taken once I'm dead.



2): I really hope that's a cop-out and not your actual opinion.
Firstly, well done on the edit. You wouldn't want to stand by what you say or anything. Nah. Just take it back. That's fine.

Secondly, that is my opinion. If someone wants parts of my body, they can pay my estate for them. I imagine there are some wealthy people in need of organs and my family stand to profit nicely.
 

Cap'n Ninja

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I think an opt-out system makes the most sense. I also think "Ooooh, I don't want them cutting me up when I'm dead" is a good enough reason to opt out, there should be a serious reason for wanting to opt out.
 

AndyFromMonday

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Giest4life said:
Finding something distasteful is a valid argument because I don't need to explain my personal opinions.

I won't care about my body if I'm dead, right? I care about my body when I'm dead because I am currently alive. And if I feel I don't like something in the future, I will not approve of it now.

I'm not looking out for social welfare, I am not out for the greater good. I find the idea of government having control over my body by default as repulsive, and I oppose all laws that aim to reach that effect.
No it's not. Whether or not you find something distasteful is not a good enough reason to deny someone their chance at living.
 

Giest4life

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Kyoufuu said:
Giest4life said:
Kyoufuu said:
Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
You have the right to inject methamphetamines? That's news to me.
Yes, I do. Unfortunately, some dipshit in Washington thinks I don't.
Who is, in this case, dictating your right? It sounds like you are, and this may be news to you, champ, but you don't get to dictate your own rights.
Yes, it's called society, champ.

I do have that right, and like I said, some dipshit in Washington has imposed penalties on my exercising my right. It's still my right, except with external consequences.
 

Trasken

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So what happens to freedom of choice, it goes down the drain for the greater good? WHY do they HAVE to be forcibly donated? If such a thing was to happen perhaps it would be best for the family of the deceased to receive some sort of compensation for letting their loved one be harvested for organs as was previously suggested by a commenter.
Bottom line is freedom of choice is more important than the "greater good", who gets to decide that EVERY citizen in the country is forced to donate organs? who has that kind of power of not giving you a choice you are by all rights entitled to just because it's the greater good?
Don't get me wrong, i have nothing but the utmost respect for organ donors, but in the end it all comes down to choice; THEIR choice of their own FREE will to donate after death.
No one should have the power to tell you what to do with your body even AFTER death, it's your choice or if you have not chosen, the choice of your family, but never of the government.
Perhaps we start considering abortion is against the greater good, then is it ok to tell everyone in a country that they are not entitled to choose wether they want or not that baby?.
Again i want to remind everyone that this is all my opinion and that i do not state this as fact but rather as just my own personal opinion open to discussion
 

AndyFromMonday

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Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
So you have the right to poison yourself with anthrax knowing full well others might contract it and eventually die?
Yeap.

EDIT: One word answers are not acceptable.

Yeah, I actually do. That would be ill advised, but I've the right to do that.
Who gives you that right?
 

TheEndlessSleep

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Kyoufuu said:
Giest4life said:
Kyoufuu said:
Giest4life said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Giest4life said:
Sorry, your "reasons" are your own. I find it inherently distasteful that a government will have control over my body by default.

Who are you to decide how I should fell about my body, dead or otherwise?

You have the right to do whatever you want with your body as long as it does not inteerfer with the well being of others. Refusing to donate after death interfers with the well being of other. Your right to freedom of expression and speech does not cover that.
No, I've the right to do anything with my body, regardless of the well being of my others.
You have the right to inject methamphetamines? That's news to me.
Yes, I do. Unfortunately, some dipshit in Washington thinks I don't.
Who is, in this case, dictating your right? It sounds like you are, and this may be news to you, champ, but you don't get to dictate your own rights.
Hurp Durp

'Hey guys I have a right to murder anyone I want. Its just that the government doesn't want me to.'

Hurp Durp