Should organ donation be manditory?

[lettucethesallad]

It's your own body, you should be allowed to decide what happens to it after death. I'm really not comfortable with the idea of people choosing things for me on a regular basis. Just because someone needs it doesn't entitle them to a part of my body.

I'm not against organ donation, I'd gladly give up a kidney for a friend or whatever, but I want to make that choice myself.

 

[Gearran]

Personally, I don't want to donate organs. They're mine. I grew 'em, I should be able to say what is done with them after I'm stone dead. If you want them? Buy them from my family (since a corpse becomes property of the relatives according to law) at the prices I set. Not selfish, and it benefits someone I actually give a damn about.

As far as mandatory/opt-out goes, no, thank you. I much rather like the opt-in status that the organ donor program has now. If it were mandatory, I'd purposefully find a way to die (when my time had run out, of course) that would make them useless. I don't like being forced to do something I have no interest in; why should I have to pay extra money each time I renew my license to make sure it stays that way?

 

[Spartan448]

It should be mandatory for dead people - they certainly don't need the organs anymore

 

[Araksardet]

Anyone who insists on keeping their organs when they're dead frankly doesn't deserve the organs in the first place (unless the donation would cause grief for religious family members who continue to live on). That's like burning your house down when you lose your job, or killing your girlfriend if she breaks up with you. The "If I can't have it nobody can" mentality is just sick, just like the "Screw everyone else" mentality.

 

[boringanarchy]

Yes, but with the reservation that my family gets first dibs should they need it.

 

[dwb9878]

Before posting, I'd like to note that I'm not pinpointing any one individual, primarily just the topic at hand, though it may appear otherwise, however:

Seriously, what is wrong with some people? I'm not anti-organ donation (though I'm not an organ donor), but I don't understand how you dipshits seem to think you are well within your right to loom over my soon-to-die self brandishing a fucking hacksaw whispering, "Annnnny second now..." and not see how the viewpoint that you have some stake to claim on something that was and never should be yours by some made up eminent domain of body theory isn't pure fucking insanity. It's your BODY for God's sake, not a television or sports card collection. Sure, I'm not using the organs, and they could be given a second home to save a life. Fine. Great. Fantastic. But that does NOT give you fucking vultures grounds to go in shouting, "Dibs on his eyeballs!" and just take whatever the hell you want if I didn't want you to have them. It's MINE! Forever, until the end of time. I'm sorry you need a new kidney, really, but your needs do not obligate me to relinquish mine, in death or otherwise.

Why is this even considered an acceptable topic for debate? Realistically, I don't understand how anyone could validate this logic. Perhaps it's this growing trend of a false sense of entitlement that fuels this ridiculousness that results in people saying, "They're mine because go fuck yourself!" within society today.

I'm very much for organ donation, even if I haven't the courage to volunteer myself. It does wonderful things for people, and that should be applauded. However, I stand much firmer on pro-choice issues, and your claim that simply because I'm dead you or anyone else has the right to come in and take whatever you deem necessary. Sure, it's not QUITE the same as getting drunk in Aruba, acting like a tit, and waking up a few pounds and a kidney lighter on a beach, but it's DAMNED close, because you're effectively wanting to infringe upon my rights as a human and demand compensation in the form of body parts because I had the audacity to.. die?

I simply find it offensive that some would be so brazen as to suggest that yourselves or the government should decide what to do with my body without regard for my last wishes or those of my family. Sure, it could save a life, but if myself nor my family wishes to leave the remains intact, so it should be done without reservation.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

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I'm sure that your point of view makes sense, however -and please don't take this as offensive- I have not read the previous post because I have literally argued my guts out about this with about 6 people and I can't be bothered any more... Sorry

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Oh I'm sorry. What part of "your family shouldn't be able to stop anyone taking them" did I misunderstand?

No part.

Your family does not have the right, once you are dead, to hoard your organs whilst other people may need them for transplants to keep them alive.

And what right do you have to demand the organs?

I don't want them, I want them to be distibuted to those who need them.

 

[Lexodus]

Eww. I don't want my organs touching some ill guy.

 

[ThreeKneeNick]

Well suppose a rich and connected person needs an organ, he could just have the underground kill someone in order to get his organ, if donation was mandatory. Same with becoming a registered donor while you' are still alive ... The best thing is to have the family decide, unfortunately for those who need organs.

 

[Outlaw Torn]

No, the world should just be less whiny about cloned organs tailor made to patients. No problems with rejection, no need to scoop out the innards of other people. I'd rather have a bespoke kidney/lung/testicle with no fear of a horrible immune response than having someone else's and having to take immunosuppressants for the rest of my life.

And noone is allowed my organs unless I say so. Some might call it selfish, but I'm not going to go around asking for organs in the event I need them so I don't see a problem with it.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Oh I'm sorry. What part of "your family shouldn't be able to stop anyone taking them" did I misunderstand?

No part.

Your family does not have the right, once you are dead, to hoard your organs whilst other people may need them for transplants to keep them alive.

And what right do you have to demand the organs?

I don't want them, I want them to be distibuted to those who need them.

No I mean what right do you have to demand the organs be distributed. You have less of a claim on them than the family does.

Purely on the grounds of logic; if you don't need them then there is no reson why they can't be used by others.

 

[Uncreation]

Oh I'm sorry. What part of "your family shouldn't be able to stop anyone taking them" did I misunderstand?

No part.

Your family does not have the right, once you are dead, to hoard your organs whilst other people may need them for transplants to keep them alive.

And what right do you have to demand the organs?

I don't want them, I want them to be distibuted to those who need them.

No I mean what right do you have to demand the organs be distributed. You have less of a claim on them than the family does.

Purely on the grounds of logic; if you don't need them then there is no reson why they can't be used by others.

Folowing that way of thinking, the family has no right to the deceased ones things, as well, because other people need them more. And trust me, there will allways be other people who will need them more. So, yeah, i completely disagree with you.

 

[TheEvilCheese]

Make it opt-out. Or only those who are registered as donors can receive donations themselves.
(unless of course they have organs which can't be used for whatever reason.)

 

[Malo_Tux]

Trust me, you wouldn't want my organs

 

[TheEvilCheese]

Oh I'm sorry. What part of "your family shouldn't be able to stop anyone taking them" did I misunderstand?

No part.

Your family does not have the right, once you are dead, to hoard your organs whilst other people may need them for transplants to keep them alive.

And what right do you have to demand the organs?

I don't want them, I want them to be distibuted to those who need them.

No I mean what right do you have to demand the organs be distributed. You have less of a claim on them than the family does.

Purely on the grounds of logic; if you don't need them then there is no reson why they can't be used by others.

Folowing that way of thinking, the family has no right to the deceased ones things, as well, because other people need them more. And trust me, there will allways be other people who will need them more. So, yeah, i completely disagree with you.

Not really, he never said that they should go to the most needy, just that they should be used not wasted. But it's very unlikely that the family will have any real use for them.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Oh I'm sorry. What part of "your family shouldn't be able to stop anyone taking them" did I misunderstand?

No part.

Your family does not have the right, once you are dead, to hoard your organs whilst other people may need them for transplants to keep them alive.

And what right do you have to demand the organs?

I don't want them, I want them to be distibuted to those who need them.

No I mean what right do you have to demand the organs be distributed. You have less of a claim on them than the family does.

Purely on the grounds of logic; if you don't need them then there is no reson why they can't be used by others.

If the families intentions were to throw all the persons stuff in a hole in the ground and bury it forever id say yes these others do deserve it more.

 

[winginson]

I think it should be 'opt out', if you don't want your organs donated then just say you don't. Personally I'm atheist and therefore I believe anyone who is undecided won't have any form of awareness after death won't be able to complain. I'd rather the useful bits of that lump of cells be used than wasted inside a box or burnt to ash.

Maybe slightly biased however, by the fact my organs are very unlikely to be usable anyway due to years of drinking, smoking and motorcycling heavily.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

You have no claim on them. They still get to decide what happens to their stuff when they die.

Yeah, but that's exactly the illogicallity that I'm arguing against.

Folowing that way of thinking, the family has no right to the deceased ones things, as well, because other people need them more. And trust me, there will allways be other people who will need them more. So, yeah, i completely disagree with you.

You have just heavily AGREED with me...

 

[King Toasty]

No. My body, my organs. When I'm dead, my will has first rights to decide what happens to my body, followed by my family.

I don't care if someone needs them. That's not my problem.

But when you die, nobody'll care about YOUR rights, so they should take the organs anyway. Deprive a right to life, and we'll deprive your corpse's right to be useless.