Should people lose access to a game because of how they act?

[cthulhuspawn82]

The movie theater analogy shows why games are terrible and why we shouldn't pay for them. The analogy highlights the ridiculous fact that we dont own our games. A DVD is something you own, a movie in a theater is a service you buy temporary access to. Video games used to be like DVDs, now they are like movie theaters. I'm disgusted by the idea that I dont own anything I have purchased.

And why cant they have both monitored and unregulated servers, with the unregulated ones being "enter at your own risk" or, in other words, "only for grown adults who can handle themselves and dont need big brother protecting them"

 

[Bat Vader]

The movie theater analogy shows why games are terrible and why we shouldn't pay for them. The analogy highlights the ridiculous fact that we dont own our games. A DVD is something you own, a movie in a theater is a service you buy temporary access to. Video games used to be like DVDs, now they are like movie theaters. I'm disgusted by the idea that I dont own anything I have purchased.

And why cant they have both monitored and unregulated servers, with the unregulated ones being "enter at your own risk" or, in other words, "only for grown adults who can handle themselves and dont need big brother protecting them"

I have always felt that is what public servers are for. It's not about people being able to handle themselves so much as it is punishing players that are there only to cause trouble. I don't think they should lose access to their game but a ban from the official servers is a good punishment. If unregulated servers did exist I couldn't really see them being used except by the people that want to cause trouble.

When I play a game online I don't want a teammate that is there just to cause trouble. I don't want a griefer or troll on my team. I want someone that is going to take the game seriously but still have fun.

 

[Foehunter82]

No.

They should however lose the ability to play the game with people that aren't assholes. A rating system that allows them to be matched with other jerks or restrict them to private games only in a server browser system.

For a limited time, of course, unless they keep getting bad behaviour reports.

Still, the only sure fire way to keep assholes out of your game is to be the host and remove them as you encounter them.

I agree completely with this. Frankly, the permaban from a game that a player (even griefers/trolls/etc.) paid for, assuming it isn't cheating, is a quick way to end up with some lawsuits for refunds. If this sort of extreme measure occurs, I'm fairly certain the lawsuits will happen. It's better for developers to give players the dedicated server tools to monitor and filter out problem players on their own. That really is the best way to take care of the problem.

 

[Karadalis]

Well if people actually decided to read the terms and agreement of the games they bought (which lets face it, nobody ever does) they would realize that game companies are completely in their rights to do it. When you click that "accept" button, you're entering into a contract with those game developers. So if in the Terms and Agreement they say they can ban you for being abusive in games and you agree to those terms, then they are completely justified in their actions.

Nope nope and nope...

Atleast not in europe.

They would have needed to present you a TOS, EULA etc. BEFORE you bought the product. You cannot demand special rights just insert special rights for yourselfe as a company after you sold something atleast in europe... so the EULAs arent worth the bits and bytes that they where written with.

In theory that is...

Ofcourse... who would actually sue a small gaming company? Usually asshats dont have the spare money to duke it out with a company from another country, and courts are slow as hell anyways... much cheaper to just buy another copy.

Also its not big enough a problem that consumer advocate groups would focus on it... yet. They have bigger whales to hunt (steam amongst them)

 

[Dragonbums]

Assholes should not lose all of their rights to play the game they bought. However if you can't keep your potty mouth to yourself and make the game fun for the other people who paid the same amount of money for the game, then you should most definitely lose your online privileges. At least, lose the ability to voice chat or type in text commands.

 

[Zhukov]

If I misbehave in a pub, I get kicked out, no matter how many drinks I paid for.

If someone doesn't have the basic fucking maturity and self control to get through a round of Killing Floor without acting like a turd then fuck them and fuck their thirty dollars. Lock 'em out and make the game a better place. Let them play solo mode. Or throw them in a cesspit server with the other screeching deadbeats.

 

[TZO2K12]

Perma-Ban them, and give them a choice;
A: Never play with others, while still having access to their game.
Or....
B: Never play with others, while barring access to their game including a full refund of the game's retail price, regardless of the deal/discount that they paid.

...It's much better solution than mine, which is to murder their PCs and ban their ISPs.. >8^|

 

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

I really really dont see the point of it, in this current form at least.
Then again (as far as I remember) they clarified things a bit and its safe to say that the average user wouldnt get banned from the game he/she bought over a few insults or something (despite the common belief that it would lead to such)

 

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

If I misbehave in a pub, I get kicked out, no matter how many drinks I paid for.

If someone doesn't have the basic fucking maturity and self control to get through a round of Killing Floor without acting like a turd then fuck them and fuck their thirty dollars. Lock 'em out and make the game a better place. Let them play solo mode. Or throw them in a cesspit server with the other screeching deadbeats.

making jerks and other misbehaving people play against each other the way they did with Max Payne 3 and GTA 5 would indeed make much more sense if they are so keen to get out their way to globally punish people