shrekfan246 said:
Covarr said:
anthony87 said:
I never realised people thought so little of Sonic fans.
You would too, if you spent any amount of time around them. Ever check out the SonicRetro forums? People argue about the most pedantic little things, speak with AUTHORITY on subjective matters as though their word were final, even when the rest of the community is doing the exact same thing with a disagreeing stance... It can be a really unpleasant part of the internet.
That being said, they really do know how to tear apart a Sonic game, find exactly what's wrong with it, and hack it until it's awesome. I'd call them diverse, even EXTREMELY intelligent (well, many of them, at least)... just not particularly sophisticated as a whole.
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I'm not trying to be needlessly inflammatory or anything because I love this website, but. . . have you spent any time on the forums here at The Escapist? The average Game Discussion or Off-Topic thread is usually
full of people pedantically arguing about how
objectively terrible CoD or Battlefield or Gears of War or Halo or Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy or Sonic the Hedgehog or Dead Space or Bioshock or WoW or Batman
must be because they personally don't like those games. Or how the
entire Mass Effect series is ruined forever because of ten minutes of bad writing after 20-30 hours of excellent writing before it, as well as two great games even further before it.
To be honest, I don't spend much time at the forums here. In fact, pretty much every post I've ever made has been a comment on an article or feature.
I'm curious just how pedantic other fanbases get. I recall reading through a few dozen pages of tantrums over the first teaser for Sonic 4 Episode 1, simply because of the color of his eyes. They claimed the whole game would be terrible on that basis alone (it
was terrible, but for unrelated reasons).
I think what makes the Sonic fanbase more problematic than some, though, is two things:
1. The wild fluctuation in quality of the games. If they were consistently bad, there probably wouldn't be much of a fanbase (or much of a series, for that matter). If they were consistently good, then fans wouldn't go completely insane every year. But nobody really knows what to expect from a new Sonic game, which leads to rampant speculation on both sides, and creates an environment just begging for arguments to break out.
I'll use your Mass Effect example to support this theory. Fans loved the series, and din't have a problem with it, until a sudden shift in quality. Even though I am led to understand the series was great until that point (haven't played 'em, so I can't speak from experience), it's the massive swing that leads to a similarly massive swing in fanbase attitudes. As the old saying goes, "The bigger they come, the harder they fall," and that definitely applies here.
Now imagine that happening over and over again, like a rollercoaster that derails, falls through sheer luck perfectly onto a different part of the track, and then derails again, in an endless cycle. That leads to a level of chaos that can't easily be escaped.
2. The Sonic fanbase is just too big. There are people with thousands of differing perspectives, from all walks of life. The more people you have, the more likely they are to disagree. The more they have to disagree on (which is a lot, since they also spend so much time speculating), the higher the tension level in general is going to be. Add to that the occasional injection of unnecessary drama (members trying to take over sites, DRM in a fangame, even allowing a group that large to discuss politics and religion), and you've just got a recipe for disaster after disaster.
Keep in mind, I'm not saying other fanbases aren't this bad. But the only other fanbase I have any real level of familiarity with is FF7, which is less ranting lunatics and more people with Cloud in their name rambling about how cool Sephiroth is. Not as much brain activity overall (there is some locked away in small corners, such as many of the FF7-mod-producing folks at qhimm.com), but for the most part far more peaceful.
Is the Sonic fanbase overall more immaturity-prone than most? I lack the broad experience to say. But among those few that I know fairly well, it's certainly the least grounded in civility. A pity, because it's also the most technically impressive that I've seen across the internet.
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