Since when was Being a Man Unattractive?

[Alex_P]

Alright, here's some practical advice...

What happened to chivalry? During my whole childhood my dad taught me to be respectful to women. I would open doors for them, I wouldn't cuss in front of them, I would help them when they needed it.

What do you do besides that?

Now, okay, I have a bit of a personal distaste for chivalry, but I don't think the stuff you're doing is bad or anything. I know that when I fall into my politeness routine, though, I'm super boring. That's because I'm intentionally being generic, presenting this blank wall so that other people can just kinda project their assumptions onto me. I make myself less engaging in order to be inoffensive; that's basically what everyone does day-to-day in order to reduce conflicts with random strangers.

But, when it comes to attraction, that whole gig is a lot like writing "I like movies" on a dating site profile. It's generic and inoffensive, but it doesn't really say much of anything about you, you know?

So, if the way you present yourself mostly revolves around politeness, maybe that's getting in the way of showing off the more interesting and exception parts of your personality that can really attract the interest of potential friends and lovers -- people you want to get close to rather than just keep politely at arm's length.

-- Alex

 

[uncle-ellis]

Eh. Women are stupid. Guys are dicks. Eventually we'll all be dead, and it wont matter WHO beat whom, who fell in love forever, and who died lonely.

Deep man.

Like a well.

fuuuuck maaan.

I feel like posting a pic of silent bob smoking weed.

 

[asinann]

Those women are not worth your time if they don't appreciate chivalry, is all.

Correction: NO women appreciate chivalry. Their mothers have taught them that if you are so much as being nice to them you are trying to get in their pants while if you are a prick to them they feel that they must work to get in YOUR pants because you obviously don't want them.

I feel you...

When those women correction girls reach there 30s they'll realize the mistake, and guys like me and you will be married with kids...

And no, you won't. I thought this until I got into my 30's and all the women were still running to the assholes, right after leaving an asshole.

I think I'd know better than you-
Being a woman, after all.
Anyway, one of my friends in her 30's was engaged to this man, but left him after he started behaving in unacceptable ways.

Just because you've had bad experiences doesn't mean that you should go around generalizing people and stating your own case as fact.

Or, like every woman I've ever met could just be lying.
Men lie all the time, women tell the biggest lies. Whatever they need to say to get what they want, the man they want, the thing they want, the job they want. I've never met a woman that didn't have at least one thing they would do quite literally anything for. Even if that thing is to just make their gender look better. Women flock to assholes until they finally settle for a "nice guy." They use the "nice guy" up, get tired of him, cheat on him, divorce him and take half of everything. I haven't seen this once, not twice, but at least 10 times between my dad and my friends. And you know who they cheated with? The assholes.

 

[XzarTheMad]

You're right. The problem is clearly with everyone else in the world except you.

I lol'd.
This, this, this a thousand times. Stop complaining and get with the program of the New Wyrlde. "Chivalry" is an unimaginative and boring approach to love. Be respectful, yes, but being a White Knight is both boring, stupid and fruitless. Once you get over that mentality of "gurls must B protecterddd" and realize they're people like you and me, you'll have a much easier time with dating in general.

That is all.

 

[DannyBoy451]

ITT: Kids try to make themselves feel better about not having a girlfriend by implying girls only like assholes.

I love this attitude, it's one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen in my life.

Little harsh and generalized don't you think?

More generalized than "Girls only date assholes waaah waaah why don't girls like me??!"?

Seriously, everyone needs to just stop that shit now.

 

[manythings]

This is one of the many reasons that I stay single. I don't want to deal with the hassle of a relationship.

Your case is getting more compelling as this thread wears on.... I don't really know how I feel about that. Haha.

How many novels centre around a guy trying to be decent? I can't name one and I'm trying.

The only one I can think of is The Idiot. I suppose the title only reinforces the point you were trying to make...and also the ending. Dear God, what a depressing novel.

I didn't even think there was one. I personally lucked out with my girl (seriously I hope she never figures out how much better she is).

On a side note any guy here got a close female friend? Ask her what women want, she will lie through her teeth. The more serious she is the quicker she'll jump through a hoop for an asshole.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

Eh. Women are stupid. Guys are dicks. Eventually we'll all be dead, and it wont matter WHO beat whom, who fell in love forever, and who died lonely.

Deep man.

Like a well.

fuuuuck maaan.

I feel like posting a pic of silent bob smoking weed.

Like a boss

 

[uncle-ellis]

Eh. Women are stupid. Guys are dicks. Eventually we'll all be dead, and it wont matter WHO beat whom, who fell in love forever, and who died lonely.

Deep man.

Like a well.

fuuuuck maaan.

I feel like posting a pic of silent bob smoking weed.

Like a boss

True, true.

 

[fgdfgdgd]

Well thats the first time I have seen Hippie and Emo in the same vein... confusing...

you sir, have not watched enough south park.

Untrue, I have seen all the episodes of South Park.

good, then you should have heard Cartman use the term "stupid emo hippy crap"

 

[steam_marc]

There's a saying that I've found to be true. "Life's a b!%@#, and then you die". Maybe that's a cynical viewpoint, but meh, it works for me.

Anyway, same story here. But hey, cheer up. Nice guys may finish last, but we finish better.

Edit: there was absolutely no innuendo intended in that last sentence.

Actually, here's what I think about life: It's a b!%@#, then you get cancer. Then you go into chemotherapy, you lose all your hair. Suddenly, the cancer goes into remission. You look good, you feel good, and then you get a stroke, and you can't move your right side. Then one day, you step off a curb, and get hit by a bus. Then, maybe, you die.

XD

Yeah, I know what you mean about the chivalry part. I swear that most (not all, I have seen exceptions) like an a-hole.

I know it's not your fault and you had no idea, but that really stung to read that, as, in the last three or so months, my dad got cancer, my great aunt died of a stroke, and I got hit by a bus.

I am REALLY sorry about that, and sorry about that.

 

[Lexodus]

There's a saying that I've found to be true. "Life's a b!%@#, and then you die". Maybe that's a cynical viewpoint, but meh, it works for me.

Anyway, same story here. But hey, cheer up. Nice guys may finish last, but we finish better.

Edit: there was absolutely no innuendo intended in that last sentence.

Actually, here's what I think about life: It's a b!%@#, then you get cancer. Then you go into chemotherapy, you lose all your hair. Suddenly, the cancer goes into remission. You look good, you feel good, and then you get a stroke, and you can't move your right side. Then one day, you step off a curb, and get hit by a bus. Then, maybe, you die.

XD

Yeah, I know what you mean about the chivalry part. I swear that most (not all, I have seen exceptions) like an a-hole.

I know it's not your fault and you had no idea, but that really stung to read that, as, in the last three or so months, my dad got cancer, my great aunt died of a stroke, and I got hit by a bus.

I am REALLY sorry about that, and sorry about that.

Like I said, not your fault, don't worry about it.

 

[DoctorWisconsin]

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[Mortons4ck]

OK. Step off your high-horse for a second here. I'm a shy guy who has trouble making my feelings understood, I definitely DO care about the girl in question but I like to try to be friends at first because it breaks the ice. (Coming from the guy who has spent 4 years of his life trying to get one feminist girl).

I'm distinguishing that kind of thing from the Nice Guy (tm) who doesn't. As such, it's not a high horse, it's a stereotype which all too many men I've met fit in to. You, apparently, do not. It's all in the capitals. "Nice Guy (tm)" versus "nice guy".

It's kinda like what my sister said: "At least with the jerks, you know what you're getting into. They're upfront about their motives, there is no second guessing. Its hard to gauge the intention of nice guys. They tend to be duplicitous about their motives."

 

[zorgonstealth]

Eh. Women are stupid. Guys are dicks. Eventually we'll all be dead, and it wont matter WHO beat whom, who fell in love forever, and who died lonely.

QFT something keeps on drawing me back to this statement. Everthing about it just seems so... true