Skyrim DLC: Crossbows and Snow Elves? (Rumour)

[Vrach]

So the two most annoying fucking things in the vanilla game (falmer and vampires) + crossbows.

I'll pass.

But crossbows! Crossbows are awesome! D:

I always hated crossbows. They take too long to load

OT: Dunno, snow elves are meh, I wasn't really drawn into vampirism in Skyrim (I might give it a go on my next playthrough sometime) and... yeah, not seeing enough there for now. Couldn't people somehow copy/paste crossbows through the Workshop?

 

[manaman]

I get the feeling Snow Elves won't be Falmer... I don't think the words "Snow elves" were ever mentioned at all in vanilla Skyrim. Why would they switch terms for the DLC if it's actually the same race?

I'm going to guess you are not really into delving into the background info. Which you really need to do in games like these. There is a lot of lore floating around in random conversations, books, and side quests. To answer your question: They wouldn't because they are one and the same, or at least they were them in the past. Yes it is mentioned more than once in the game as well.

 

[The Metalist]

Whats funny is that Skyrim DOESNT belong to the falmer

It has been stated in several sources that all of humanity was born on the throat of the world at the dawn of time, humans were the first real inhabitants of skyrim.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Atmora
Read that. I have no idea where you got that information from.

Also, keep in mind that there are quite a lot of files in even base skyrim that aren't used. For example, the model of the imperial city is in there, but it isn't used at all.

 

[SajuukKhar]

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Atmora
Read that. I have no idea where you got that information from.

Also, keep in mind that there are quite a lot of files in even base skyrim that aren't used. For example, the model of the imperial city is in there, but it isn't used at all.

I got it from Michael Kirkbride series lore writer.

trust me kid, there's a lot of lore UESP doesn't have.

 

[AM City Watch]

It has been stated in several sources that all of humanity was born on the throat of the world at the dawn of time, humans were the first real inhabitants of skyrim.

No, humans came to Skyrim on a boat from some shit continent even farther north. Everyone is quite open about this. Hell, The Companions trace their heritage back to the leader of those first settlers, Ysgramor.

Way back when, Skryim was elf land--as was most of Tamriel. Humans just pinched it.

 

[SajuukKhar]

No, humans came to Skyrim on a boat from some shit continent even farther north. Everyone is quite open about this. Hell, The Companions trace their heritage back to the leader of those first settlers, Ysgramor.

Way back when, Skryim was elf land--as was most of Tamriel. Humans just pinched it.

You are aware most of what people tell you in the game is outright wrong?

Furthermore Michael Kirkbride, series lore writer, has stated himself that the nords come from snow-throat.

the true histories have been lost in lies and propaganda.

Just as Talos was really Hjalti of High Rock, just as Pelinal was a time travel, just as Lorkhan is Talos is Sithis is Akatosh.

 

[Mr Pantomime]

It has been stated in several sources that all of humanity was born on the throat of the world at the dawn of time, humans were the first real inhabitants of skyrim.

No, humans came to Skyrim on a boat from some shit continent even farther north. Everyone is quite open about this. Hell, The Companions trace their heritage back to the leader of those first settlers, Ysgramor.

Way back when, Skryim was elf land--as was most of Tamriel. Humans just pinched it.

You are aware most of what people tell you in the game is outright wrong?

I say this a lot about the ES series, but thats either the stupidest or the smartest thing I have ever heard.

I wouldn't consider anything said in Skyrim outright wrong, what with all the revisionisom that goes on in the ES series.

On the other hand, having multiple contradicting accounts of an event, such as how Nords came to Skyrim, does add a lot of depth and mystery to the world.

Still, maybe youve got to accept that some people just dont care as much about ES as you do.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I say this a lot about the ES series, but thats either the stupidest or the smartest thing I have ever heard.

I wouldn't consider anything said in Skyrim outright wrong, what with all the revisionisom that goes on in the ES series.

On the other hand, having multiple contradicting accounts of an event, such as how Nords came to Skyrim, does add a lot of depth and mystery to the world.

Still, maybe youve got to accept that some people just dont care as much about ES as you do.

I know they dont. I was just pointing it out.

The ES lore is so deep, complex, and full of contradictions that are correct BECUASE they are contradictions its madness.

gods are other gods who kill the other god.

It is a world of impossibility that cannot work by its own rules yet that is exactly why it does.

 

[The Metalist]

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Atmora
Read that. I have no idea where you got that information from.

Also, keep in mind that there are quite a lot of files in even base skyrim that aren't used. For example, the model of the imperial city is in there, but it isn't used at all.

I got it from Michael Kirkbride series lore writer.

trust me kid, there's a lot of lore UESP doesn't have.

Do not call me "kid". I have done nothing to earn that kind of rude patronisation.

It is cleary stated in the games that men came from Atmora and that the elves ruled over skyrim beforehand. "The Nords belive that Kyne breathed life into them on the throat of the world" yes, yet you have misunderstood.

"Men" and "Nords" are two different groups. Bretons and Imperials also are also "men".
To say that Skyrm is the birthplace of the Nords is correct, but it is not the birthplace of "men" as a whole.


As with most games, ultimately the games decide the lore. No matter whatever the writer said.
After all, he probably gave all of it the thumbs up, so who are you to say that its wrong?

 

[Tanis]

How about the ability to actually MAKE arrows?

 

[SajuukKhar]

Do not call me "kid". I have done nothing to earn that kind of rude patronisation.

It is cleary stated in the games that men came from Atmora and that the elves ruled over skyrim beforehand. "The Nords belive that Kyne breathed life into them on the throat of the world" yes, yet you have misunderstood.

"Men" and "Nords" are two different groups. Bretons and Imperials also are also "men".
To say that Skyrm is the birthplace of the Nords is correct, but it is not the birthplace of "men" as a whole.


As with most games, ultimately the games decide the lore. No matter whatever the writer said.
After all, he probably gave all of it the thumbs up, so who are you to say that its wrong?

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept
"Do not believe the written histories.

All mortal life started on the starry heart of Dawn's beauty, Tamriel."
.
.
All manish life, except the Redguards, are decadents of the Cryo-Nords, those who were born on Snow-throat.

The cryo-nords who went north became the Nords, those who went south and west, became the Nedes and Bretons, then when the Nords came back they bred with the Nedes and made imperials.

 

[Goofguy]

To be frank, none of this excites me. Sure, it may be interesting to find out the whole story regarding the Snow Elves and their transformation in to the Falmer but I don't care about vampires and I'll take a bow over a crossbow any day.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Give me hand crossbows and spears, and I'll play no other game for three months.

As is, crossbows would be pretty awesome.

How about the ability to actually MAKE arrows?

As would fletching. I hate having to resort to my endless stockpile of Ancient Nord Arrows whenever my decent ammo is depleted...

 

[SajuukKhar]

Maybe Bethesda will finally have the balls to actually say what happened to the Dwemer in the games themselves.

They already explained what happend to them in a outside game source a 6-7 ago and have just been using the Dwemer to draw people in with "mysteriousness" while leaving clues no one but the people who already know will get.

But then again that's about as likely as them coming out and finally saying akatosh is Lorkhan.......

 

[Tanis]

Maybe Bethesda will finally have the balls to actually say what happened to the Dwemer in the games themselves.

They already explained what happend to them in a outside game source a 6-7 ago and have just been using the Dwemer to draw people in with "mysteriousness" while leaving clues no one but the people who already know will get.

But then again that's about as likely as them coming out and finally saying akatosh is Lorkhan.......

Maybe that's being 'saved' for TES6?

TES6: Underground

A game so deep and dark the MC cuts themselves to feel.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Maybe that's being 'saved' for TES6?

TES6: Underground

A game so deep and dark the MC cuts themselves to feel.

Funny........

I just get emotionally jades seeing Elder Scrolls topic were people talk about stuff that has been known for like 5+ years, and then I tell them but its so buttfuttingly confusing that most of them dont get it.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

So the two most annoying fucking things in the vanilla game (falmer and vampires) + crossbows.

I'll pass.

But the Falmer were awesome. =< Annoying at times, but the whole "betrayed by the Dwemer and left to rot underground" thing made me feel quite sorry for them. Even if they were trying to slice me open. A lot.

Thats the thing with Skyrim though, isnt it? All this lore in the background, and yet nothing done with it. The snow elves betrayal is mentioned maybe twice in some book, which is quite a pity.

I agree here. This kills me, in Skyrim especially. There is all this amazingly deep and rich lore but NONE of it is represented in the game besides some flavor text in books. It makes me sad.

 

[The Metalist]

Do not call me "kid". I have done nothing to earn that kind of rude patronisation.

It is cleary stated in the games that men came from Atmora and that the elves ruled over skyrim beforehand. "The Nords belive that Kyne breathed life into them on the throat of the world" yes, yet you have misunderstood.

"Men" and "Nords" are two different groups. Bretons and Imperials also are also "men".
To say that Skyrm is the birthplace of the Nords is correct, but it is not the birthplace of "men" as a whole.


As with most games, ultimately the games decide the lore. No matter whatever the writer said.
After all, he probably gave all of it the thumbs up, so who are you to say that its wrong?

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept
"Do not believe the written histories.

All mortal life started on the starry heart of Dawn's beauty, Tamriel."

Ok. I have never seen that. It did not warrant you to be rude though.

It looks like I've got a bit of revision to do. But I still consider in-game lore to override outside sources. At most, I'd consider it to be an alternate story/timeline. If I get slapped in the face in TES VI, so be it.

(I'll also admit that I am not that devoted to it. I just pick up whats in-game and piece it together myself.)

 

[SajuukKhar]

I agree here. This kills me, in Skyrim especially. There is all this amazingly deep and rich lore but NONE of it is represented in the game besides some flavor text in books. It makes me sad.

Oblivion and Skyrim were games made with stories that anyone who knows nothing abut the series can get...... yet full of all these books and visual cues that tip people, who have been fans of the series and its lore for awhile, off to things that most will never get.

They have visually shown how Sithis, Lorkhan, Talos, and Akatosh ARE THE SAME PERSON in the games, yet 99.99% of people will never get the clues.

It looks like I've got a bit of revision to do. But I still consider in-game lore to override outside sources. At most, I'd consider it to be an alternate story/timeline. If I get slapped in the face in TES VI, so be it.

the Nu-Mantia intercepts were mentioned in Skyrim.

Specifically the book of the dragonborn references the towers, nowhere outside of the nu-mantia intercepts was Numidium, red mountain, or snow-throat refereed to as towers.

furthermore without the Nu-Mantia intercepts Oblivion's plot has a gaping plot hole in it.