Skyrim Hearth Fire DLC Leak

[Laughing Man]

The problem with bethesda and mojangs modding community, is that it makes it impossible for them implement any new features or DLC without people getting their pitchforks and going "MODS ALREADY DID IT!"

But it just doesn't. If Bethesda release daft mods like the horse armour and charge for it then yeah the point is valid but if they instead give us huge new areas, a great story and a bunch of decent voice work, like they did with Shivering Isles, then the modding community just can't do that. End of the day Bethesda knows what the community can do and it really is up to them to go beyond that, they have proven that they can do it, it is just weather they opt to do it or go for a cheap buck.

 

[The_Lost_King]

yes but this is already a mod.Build your own house. The Shivering Isles wasn't. Hopefully though, there will be more to the DLC than that and that is just a feature of the DLC.

It's only on one platform though. Saying 'it's pointless because mods' is like saying 'Dawnguard is already on the 360 so why should they release it again'?
But yeah, I'd like a bit more than just a house. Like spellcrafting or something.

Now I know you're just being deliberately obtuse.

Or I am just using Bethesda's past DLC descriptions to make a realistic assumption that houses are not the only thing in this DLC.

Using a companies past actions to determine future results? THE HORROR!!!

To be fair, using the same logic you can work out houses WILL be the only thing in this DLC.
Like [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fighter%27s_Stronghold] this [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Thieves_Den] other [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Vile_Lair] DLC. [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Wizard%27s_Tower]

It is still a little ridiculous that they are taking something that is free but then charging for it.

 

[SajuukKhar]

It is still a little ridiculous that they are taking something that is free but then charging for it.

Same could be said for the
-Vampire upgrades
-Werewolf upgrades
-New monster types
-New weapons/armor
that Dawnguard had. All of which were in free mods before.

At that point... whats left? why buy any DLC?

Ohh yeah... the quality...

 

[Ryank1908]

This is awesome. If this is paid DLC that's already covered by a mod - so what? Bethesda will do it with a huge amount of content if Dawnguard is anything to go by, and probably do it with a lot more polish and depth than the mods allow. I love player housing in games and a lot of them overlook the customisation options that a lot of people like, so a big developer adding official support for it is a great step, in my eyes.

 

[Gidiel167]

unless this adds more gameplay, i dont see why i would buy it for 360.

 

[FallenTraveler]

This could be worth it if you have fully customizable homes and if they do add content it would be pretty awesome if you could build your own town or something, add in some quests about the whole stormcloak thing and you could be choosing sides, mounting armies and defending your stronghold.

On a side note, people who have consoles cannot use mods, yes, they should have bought the pc version if they wanted mods, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to build their own place. plus, isn't it much more magical to build a house in game rather than build one in an editor.

I really wish the Gotye edition was a real thing, where there were new Dark Brotherhood missions where you got close to your prey by painting yourself to blend in with abstract art and then stabbing him in the back while moaning that he's now just somebody that you used to know.

My captcha was this: Somebody that I used to know

WTF.

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

It´s not silly or childish why would i buy dlc when i have mods which do the same?

Why would you complain about DLC you don't have to buy?

 

[bl4ckh4wk64]

Sadly not, but you DO get mudcrab armor

Damn, I was hoping they'd add this into the game.

OT: As long as it's free, I'd be completely happy. If it really does just give you the BYOH mod, at least there's support from Bethesda if there's problems. OR, they'd expand on the mod and make it better. I see either situation as a win-win as long as the mod is free. I won't pay money for it, but I'd sure as hell download it when it comes out. Then again, I wasn't that impressed with Dawnguard, so I'm not too sure how impressed I'll be for the next payed DLC from them.

 

[The_Lost_King]

It is still a little ridiculous that they are taking something that is free but then charging for it.

Same could be said for the
-Vampire upgrades
-Werewolf upgrades
-New monster types
-New weapons/armor
that Dawnguard had. All of which were in free mods before.

At that point... whats left? why buy any DLC?

Ohh yeah... the quality...

Well Dawnguard had more too it than that from what we heard so far Hearthfire doesn't it is just copying 1 mod and charging for it. Dawnguard added story, characters and factions, hearthfire copies 1 mod then charges for it.

 

[Moth_Monk]

The house building was in the Game Jam stuff, just like the Vampire Lords were originally. So I suspect they'll be throwing in some more stuff from the Game Jam and some new stuff as well.

 

[Aerosteam]

Give me a re-spec and I'm interested.

 

[Frostbite3789]

yes but this is already a mod.Build your own house. The Shivering Isles wasn't.

Various part of SI were, combine enough free mods and you'll get just as much, if not more content, ALL FOR FREE!!!

why pay for content when you can get more content then DLC can provide for free via mods? am i right?

I dropped $60 on the game. They included the toolset to create mods. You're acting as if downloading mods is some sort of criminal act, when the game encourages it.

Or as someone earlier said, you're being deliberately obtuse.

I smell some grape jelly around here. Because it seems like someone doesn't have the game for PC, but wishes they did.

 

[Tanner The Monotone]

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1404578-i-found-out-what-heartfire-is-about/

So apparently derptemp6698, the guy who leaked info about two Mass effect DLCs, and was right on both accounts, has claimed to have gotten information about Skyrim's next DLc HEarthfire.

"Hearthfire?, the next official game-add on for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim®, has arrived. For the first time in the Elder Scrolls universe, purchase land and build your own home from the ground up - from a simple one-room cottage to a sprawling compound complete with armory, alchemy laboratory, trophy room, and more! With Hearthfire, the possibilities of what you can build are endless."

Is it true? maybe
Is it fake? maybe

but if it is real... all I can say is.... BOUT DAMN TIME BETHESDA.

I have it on the xbox, so having a home building feature without a mod is cool. I hope that this is just a feature to the whole dlc and not the whole thing. I want some more campaign.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Well Dawnguard had more too it than that from what we heard so far Hearthfire doesn't it is just copying 1 mod and charging for it. Dawnguard added story, characters and factions, hearthfire copies 1 mod then charges for it.

Can you point me to where it was said building homes is the only thing in this DLC?

Really, your taking the DLCs description, which as I have pointed out before never contains information about 90% of the DLC content, and trying to pass it off as the entire DLC. It's dumb.

To act like the DLC only contains house building is an entirely unfounded belief.

I dropped $60 on the game. They included the toolset to create mods. You're acting as if downloading mods is some sort of criminal act, when the game encourages it.

Or as someone earlier said, you're being deliberately obtuse.

I smell some grape jelly around here. Because it seems like someone doesn't have the game for PC, but wishes they did.

<--- Has the game on PC, has over 200 mods installed for it, still doesn't understand how people can come up with the "WELL MODES DO IT FOR FREE WHY BUY DLC?" excuse.


And no I am not acting like downloading DLC is a criminal act, I haven't even discouraged downloading mods it at all. I was merely pointing out that the "MODS DO IT FOR FREE" excuse makes no sense because mods do EVERYTHING for free, thus by that logic nothing Bethesda can nver come up with is ever worth paying for.

Which is contradictory to the fact that many of the people who try to use the "MODS do it for free" excuse end up buying DLC anyways, the very same content they could have gotten they claim they can get for free.

Anyone who has bought a DLC in the past really cannot use the "MOS DO IT FORE FREE" excuse without being hypocritical.

 

[DustyDrB]

I'm sure this appeals to some people. But I'm not one of those people, so Skyrim is 0 for 2 as far as its DLC goes for me.

 

[AntiChri5]

It would be nice if they allowed a xbox modding toolkit for the xbox 360, and with it an archive from other modders online.

Rather than taking ideas other people who came up with it on the PC, and holding it blackmail to 360 owners....

Would earn quite a good chunk of reputation points, lol. But oh well.

Ideas other people came up with? You realize that the ability to build your own fortress was in Morrowind, which was released a damn long time ago.

 

[SajuukKhar]

It would be nice if they allowed a xbox modding toolkit for the xbox 360, and with it an archive from other modders online.

Rather than taking ideas other people who came up with it on the PC, and holding it blackmail to 360 owners....

Would earn quite a good chunk of reputation points, lol. But oh well.

Ideas other people came up with? You realize that the ability to build your own fortress was in Morrowind, which was released a damn long time ago.

I also find it funny how people don't know that Bethesda isn't the one who gets to allow modding on the consoles or not, its the console makers who do.

 

[jackinmydaniels]

I imagine that the whole building a house thing is just part of a larger dlc package, if so I'll gladly buy it, if not then I won't bother, my house in Whiterun works just fine Bethesda.

 

[Blazing Steel]

Hi. PS3 owner here. STILL waiting on Dawnguard, and if this manages to come out before then, I'm uninstalling Skyrim.

So you would rather have them release it now and have the same issue Skyrim first had with the Ps3, instead of having them work on it and make sure its fully optimized for it then?

Yes. I didn't have any problems with my copy of Skyrim on the PS3 and hell I saw the problems happen on my friend's copy. Didn't look like that much of a problem to me. At this point in time a date hasn't even been released for the PS3 version, so I'd be happy for any information even if it's just 'we're working on it'; But no instead we get 'I don't have an answer or an update'.

 

[Josh123914]

I seem to recall a mod that took place in the Rift where basically this guy cleared a bunch of the foliage between Ivarstead and Riften and, well basically created a 10th hold. It had a town around the size of Falkreath and expanded south to cover some existing caves. It'd be cool if Bethesda did something similar with this DLC.
Say a rich nobleman asks for your help in building a town from the ground up (maybe rebuild Helgen?) and through whatever contacts you have through your factions or being thane of other Jarls will help how this town will form.

If you contract the College of Winterhold to do expeditions in the area, thus increasing interest in the town and in return more people want to live there, or do you get people in the Thieve's guild to extort others to fund building, and in return they get influence in the town.
What about the Jarls?
Say you are thane of the Pale, you can get them to help with funding, and in return the new Jarl there will do what's in the Pale's best interests, or if you are thane of Solitude, the new town s a base of operations for the Legion, similar to how the Penitus Oculatus works in Dragon Bridge.