Skyrim - Removing Immortal/Esstenial Status

[Paragon Fury]

I have a simple request: does anyone know the Console Command to remove the Immortal/Esstenial tags from the NPCs in the game, thereby rendering them all vulenrable?

It really gets under my skin that somehow the Jarls and leaders are spared from my murderous rage somehow, or that there is little danger in mis-casting a spell or something.

I was really pissed when I found out I just can't assassinate all the enemy Jarls and leaders to end the war.....why wasn't this a built-in option?

 

[BiggDoggJake]

The Illusion of absolute freedom is a powerful thing.

My mother always said: "If you wan't space, move to Utah!" (To quote a movie, I know not the name of)

The same can apply to video games: "You want freedom, play Just Cause 2."

I'm not sure how that's constructive or how that even fits with the first statement but there you go.

 

[Kopikatsu]

The Illusion of absolute freedom is a powerful thing.

My mother always said: "If you wan't space, move to Utah!" (To quote a movie, I know not the name of)

The same can apply to video games: "You want freedom, play Just Cause 2."

I'm not sure how that's constructive or how that even fits with the first statement but there you go.

Pff. Morrowind had no 'essential' flag. If you wanted to kill someone, BOOM. They were dead in a hailfire of...fire. If you killed someone vital to the main quest, the game just gave you a message saying 'Bro, you fucked up. You fucked up big time.'

But you could still keep playing. Just couldn't finish the main quest.

 

[Paragon Fury]

The Illusion of absolute freedom is a powerful thing.

My mother always said: "If you wan't space, move to Utah!" (To quote a movie, I know not the name of)

The same can apply to video games: "You want freedom, play Just Cause 2."

I'm not sure how that's constructive or how that even fits with the first statement but there you go.

Pff. Morrowind had no 'essential' flag. If you wanted to kill someone, BOOM. They were dead in a hailfire of...fire. If you killed someone vital to the main quest, the game just gave you a message saying 'Bro, you fucked up. You fucked up big time.'

But you could still keep playing. Just couldn't finish the main quest.

Or better yet, since its 2011........just make the main quest adapt to the loss of a character. Now you just have to figure out what needs to go down by yourself, or you skip unnecessary things; like the whole Civil War thing if I'd gotten the ability to assassinate Ulfric.

 

[BiggDoggJake]

The Illusion of absolute freedom is a powerful thing.

My mother always said: "If you wan't space, move to Utah!" (To quote a movie, I know not the name of)

The same can apply to video games: "You want freedom, play Just Cause 2."

I'm not sure how that's constructive or how that even fits with the first statement but there you go.

Pff. Morrowind had no 'essential' flag. If you wanted to kill someone, BOOM. They were dead in a hailfire of...fire. If you killed someone vital to the main quest, the game just gave you a message saying 'Bro, you fucked up. You fucked up big time.'

But you could still keep playing. Just couldn't finish the main quest.

"Buh, buh...bu....No one will play our game if we let them break it!"


Uhm, HELLO!? The fact that you can press "New Game" and rebreak the same game is the most alluring thing about morrowind.

 

[Bobbety]

I don't think there is a console command. Though chances are there will be a mod.

 

[shrekfan246]

I have a simple request: does anyone know the Console Command to remove the Immortal/Esstenial tags from the NPCs in the game, thereby rendering them all vulenrable?

It really gets under my skin that somehow the Jarls and leaders are spared from my murderous rage somehow, or that there is little danger in mis-casting a spell or something.

I was really pissed when I found out I just can't assassinate all the enemy Jarls and leaders to end the war.....why wasn't this a built-in option?

Not sure if it will effect the ever-almighty Jarls of Skyrim, but (assuming you haven't tried it yet) you could always bring up the Console, select the character, and type in "Kill". I think that particular command is just the word if you've targeted someone, but again, I don't know if it'll work on Essential NPC's because I haven't tried it myself.

 

[BiggDoggJake]

I have a simple request: does anyone know the Console Command to remove the Immortal/Esstenial tags from the NPCs in the game, thereby rendering them all vulenrable?

It really gets under my skin that somehow the Jarls and leaders are spared from my murderous rage somehow, or that there is little danger in mis-casting a spell or something.

I was really pissed when I found out I just can't assassinate all the enemy Jarls and leaders to end the war.....why wasn't this a built-in option?

Not sure if it will effect the ever-almighty Jarls of Skyrim, but (assuming you haven't tried it yet) you could always bring up the Console, select the character, and type in "Kill". I think that particular command is just the word if you've targeted someone, but again, I don't know if it'll work on Essential NPC's because I haven't tried it myself.

It makes essentials double over in pain then stand back up

 

[shrekfan246]

It makes essentials double over in pain then stand back up

Curses, foiled again!

Well, if modders could remove immortality from children, I bet they'll be able to do it for Essentials.

 

[Link4422]

You can use "disable" to remove them.

 

[Mad World]

In Oblivion, all you had to do was edit a simple .ini file. Does the same not apply to Skyrim?

It made it so that essential NPCs were treated as any other. Instead of seeing a crown icon (or whatever), you'd see the usual one (when looking at an NPC). And - of course - they could then be killed.

 

[NightHawk21]

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console
That's the site you want. Specifically the command will be
setessential <1/0>
base ID = jarl's number (from here http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrimeople)
ex. Jarl Korir (winterhold) is 0001C1B5
1/0= 1 - immortal
0 - mortal

So to set the winterhold jarl as mortal you would theoretically (I haven't done this, but the site is trustworthy) do

setessential 0001C1B5 0

It is worth noting the following warning posted on the site though:
"While it is fine to change an NPC to essential yourself and then decide later to make them mortal again, you should never set an NPC that is essential (immortal) in the vanilla game (i.e., before modifications) as mortal. If they're already essential, don't change them. Certainly do not save the game if you do. If an originally essential NPC dies it will undoubtedly break whole quests, entire questlines, or perhaps even the entire story, and you'll be forced to reload a previous save."

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

setessential <1/0> is the console command to remove the essential tag from an NPC. Be advised that it can break quests.

 

[Tsaba]

The Illusion of absolute freedom is a powerful thing.

My mother always said: "If you wan't space, move to Utah!" (To quote a movie, I know not the name of)

The same can apply to video games: "You want freedom, play Just Cause 2."

I'm not sure how that's constructive or how that even fits with the first statement but there you go.

Pff. Morrowind had no 'essential' flag. If you wanted to kill someone, BOOM. They were dead in a hailfire of...fire. If you killed someone vital to the main quest, the game just gave you a message saying 'Bro, you fucked up. You fucked up big time.'

But you could still keep playing. Just couldn't finish the main quest.

Oh the fond memories of Morrowind

 

[craftomega]

Sigh.....

just wait for the construction kit like everyone else, its only going to be about a month.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I still haven't had the luxury of playing Skyrim, but your question intrigued me. I know there was a console command for it in Oblivion and Fallout 3. So I checked GameFAQs and sure enough
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/615805-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/cheats
The one you want is about 2/3 of the way down.

 

[halfeclipse]

Do us a favour. Boot up Skyrim, and go to a major city. Set everyone nonessential, the UESP wiki should have a list of residents and their actor values. Spawn in an ancient dragon. Congratulations, you have now discovered why Skyrim has so many essential NPCs.


Taking an action yourself, and suffering for it is one thing. Having the random number generator just plain fuck you over? Not fun at all.

 

[Paragon Fury]

Do us a favour. Boot up Skyrim, and go to a major city. Set everyone nonessential, the UESP wiki should have a list of residents and their actor values. Spawn in an ancient dragon. Congratulations, you have now discovered why Skyrim has so many essential NPCs.


Taking an action yourself, and suffering for it is one thing. Having the random number generator just plain fuck you over? Not fun at all.

Seeing as how a dragon can't actually spawn into any of the major, major cities, the only real way to break any of the major quests by accident would be to have a dragon kill one of the Blades or your side's Second-In-Command.

Besides, most of the essential NPCs are tough enough where if you're any good at fighting dragons or anything else the dragon will die before the NPC.

At least make it so that they're immortal to everything but your attacks.

 

[craftomega]

I have a simple request: does anyone know the Console Command to remove the Immortal/Esstenial tags from the NPCs in the game, thereby rendering them all vulenrable?

It really gets under my skin that somehow the Jarls and leaders are spared from my murderous rage somehow, or that there is little danger in mis-casting a spell or something.

I was really pissed when I found out I just can't assassinate all the enemy Jarls and leaders to end the war.....why wasn't this a built-in option?

here the fix to your problem.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2570

 

[Odbarc]

I wish they would just let him (them) die and be replaced later on.