(Skyrim) Why so hastily ?

[trouble_gum]

If we're going to speak of the fabled "immersion," then wouldn't it be considered more immersive for you, the Dovahkiin of legend and prophecy to get a bloody move on and stop the end of the world instead of fannying about looking for "just one more barrow!?"

Not that I have. What? Save the world for certain destruction at the hands of millenia old immortal dragon? Not me mate, I need to make more iron daggers and flog them to this Nord bird so I can buy more iron ore to make more daggers so I can practice smithing and craft meself an awesome suit of shiny dragonbone armour.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

If we're going to speak of the fabled "immersion," then wouldn't it be considered more immersive for you, the Dovahkiin of legend and prophecy to get a bloody move on and stop the end of the world instead of fannying about looking for "just one more barrow!?"

Not that I have. What? Save the world for certain destruction at the hands of millenia old immortal dragon? Not me mate, I need to make more iron daggers and flog them to this Nord bird so I can buy more iron ore to make more daggers so I can practice smithing and craft meself an awesome suit of shiny dragonbone armour.

...to combat dragons and save the world? Eh? Eh?! see what I did thar?

 

[michiehoward]

Currently I'm doing that Gauldur Amulet pieces quest, but can't find out how to open the door to Saarthal....snip......

Same here. For my husband the door was just bloody open. Maybe there is a secondary entry way.

I already mentioned (I think in this very thread) that one of the amulet pieces is only attainable by doing the Mage College's questline. They open the door to the final peice in one of their quests.

Hope that helps.

Thanks! I thought I had missed a key or something in the previous location and dreaded going back to that Hall....Its where I lost my Dawnbreaker. -sob-

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Currently I'm doing that Gauldur Amulet pieces quest, but can't find out how to open the door to Saarthal....snip......

Same here. For my husband the door was just bloody open. Maybe there is a secondary entry way.

I already mentioned (I think in this very thread) that one of the amulet pieces is only attainable by doing the Mage College's questline. They open the door to the final peice in one of their quests.

Hope that helps.

Thanks! I thought I had missed a key or something in the previous location and dreaded going back to that Hall....Its where I lost my Dawnbreaker. -sob-

You're welcome. And yeah, I feel your pain. Stupid Draugr Deathlords and their disarm shout. Benor lost Volundrung (the Deadric Warhammer I got form the orc-y Deadric Prince whose name excapes me at the moment) somewhere in the Labarynthian, and it took me AGES to find that sucker.

 

[Pearwood]

I did what I usually do, go through the main quest normally then worry about dicking around. Main quest is nice and fun and pretty much acts as a tour of the game world. Although now I've started a second character I'm doing more Daedric quests than just Azura's and Sheogorath's. Azura's Star makes levelling enchanting actually bearable and Wabbajack is good to cheese your way past encounters that you're underlevelled for or just find really annoying.

 

[brunothepig]

What exactly is the difference between me dicking around before I finish the main quest, and me dicking around after I finish the main quest (or any other quest line for that matter)?

Ask the dude who is talking about "immersion" and how the game is "meant to be played."

Personally, I don't care how you played the game, and really, nobody should except you.

Oh good. I thought you might not have been serious, but after being told I shouldn't have finished the main quest first I'm finding it kind of hard to figure out who to take seriously...

Yeah, I just saw that. To the few of you talking about immersion, how is it breaking immersion to do the damn quest and, you know, save the world as quickly as possible? When I heard of Alduin's return, my first thought wasn't "yeah, that sounds pretty bad but I'm gonna go become an assassin" it was "holy fuck, we need to do something about this!"

 

[trouble_gum]

...to combat dragons and save the world? Eh? Eh?! see what I did thar?

Maaaaybe...or maybe I just want to make my house look very pretty...and spiky...by decorating the hallway with dragonbone armour. That'll keep the world-eating dragons away.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

...to combat dragons and save the world? Eh? Eh?! see what I did thar?

Maaaaybe...or maybe I just want to make my house look very pretty...and spiky...by decorating the hallway with dragonbone armour. That'll keep the world-eating dragons away.

Kind of like heads on a pike? I dig it. Now just enchant them with fire for dramatic effect, and lay them out in a message that can only been seen from the sky, like, "Mmmmm-mmm, dragon sure is tasty!".

 

[Something Amyss]

Oh good. I thought you might not have been serious, but after being told I shouldn't have finished the main quest first I'm finding it kind of hard to figure out who to take seriously...

Yeah, I just saw that. To the few of you talking about immersion, how is it breaking immersion to do the damn quest and, you know, save the world as quickly as possible? When I heard of Alduin's return, my first thought wasn't "yeah, that sounds pretty bad but I'm gonna go become an assassin" it was "holy fuck, we need to do something about this!"

Sounds like immersion to me, but what do I know?

 

[Estocavio]

Why ? What's the rush ? Why are you people running through Skyrim instead of playing it slowly, trying to become hero, protagonist of your own fantasy story, just, you know, for the sake of fun and immersion ?

Hero? Protagonist?

Hehe. Yeah, right. Im a Hero. AND a Protagonist.
Or possibly a Serial Killer.



In any case, OT; I agree. Some folks are rushing it.

 

[JesterRaiin]

Immersion. From the POV of gamer : being submerged in a game. Forgetting about outside world. Being interested in lore (if applicable), treating it like second, almost real world. Finally, and probably most importantly : trying to "be" your own hero, acting like he/she actually lives.

Simply spending plenty of time playing some game and not caring about outside world isn't "immersion". It's seclusion, isolation and such.

Did i pass the test ?

Then why preclude people who simply played it different from you?

Preclude from what ? I'm not following.
Man, it's one of Bethesda's "world simulators". It is you, big world, and some quickly invented cliched, generic story for the sake of calling it "the game". I am strongly convinced that "speedrunning" through any of crpgs made by Bethesda is playing it wrongly.

However i don't feel like marking people doing otherwise as freaks and it's not the point of this topic. I'm simply curious. What do i miss ? Why not to take longer road ?
Once again : "what's the rush ?"

What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, dicking around is fun. But the fact that I found the main quest compelling enough to follow through with it before my usual 50 hours spent killing every bandit for miles around and becoming head of every guild possible is a good thing. The game is not necessarily meant to be played with 30 hours of wasting time before you do the important stuff. If Bethesda wanted that, they should have removed the level scaling. Or made the quest lines bigger or something.

Chill. Nobody's accusing you of anything.
If you followed main quest to the end AND then you plan to play more, then we have nothing to argue about.
My questions are for those who quickly finished main storyline and stopped playing Skyrim.

Why ? What's the rush ? Why are you people running through Skyrim instead of playing it slowly, trying to become hero, protagonist of your own fantasy story, just, you know, for the sake of fun and immersion ?

Hero? Protagonist?
Hehe. Yeah, right. Im a Hero. AND a Protagonist.
Or possibly a Serial Killer.

That's your typical case of anti-heroism. Nevertheless, a protagonist. ;p

 

[Kriptonite]

I just walked up those bloody 7000 steps.

I accidentally made it to High Hrothgar. Let me explain: I LOVE to climb mountains. This comes from hours of doing it on an MMORPG called Shaiya with a close friend of mine. We would have competitions to see who could get to the top of an obnoxiously tall mountain first. So now I have mad climbing skills so I accidentally came a cross High Hrothgar so I never actually climbed the steps. The Ice Troll on the way out was a surprise though, I sneaked up on the bastard!

I have spent 178.48.37 time playing. Level 40. I just dick around all the time! To be fair though, I used to leave the game on while I slept because starting it up was a *****. So the time isn't quite that long.

 

[surg3n]

A lot of people like to play the main quest, then do the side quests at their leisure - I'm 56 hours in, and am level 23, boss of the companions etc, but have done very little of the main quest. For me, Skyrim is all about character development... a couple of times now I've decided to abandon a quest and do something else, improve my weaponary, look for resources, investigate a new quest etc, then come back to unfinished quests later. So far though, my favorite quest has been the one with Sanguine, quests like that are what makes Skyrim, or any elder scrolls game IMO. I'm in no hurry to finish it, hell I'll play it like Fallout3 before the continuation DLC, doing side quests while robots and douchebags are battling to wrap the game story up.

 

[trouble_gum]

Kind of like heads on a pike? I dig it. Now just enchant them with fire for dramatic effect, and lay them out in a message that can only been seen from the sky, like, "Mmmmm-mmm, dragon sure is tasty!".

I'm sure if I took the time I could make a big set of them and lay them out so the formed the Dragon tongue for "Go away or you'll end up like this too."

 

[DRes82]

I'm at 92 hours played, and I haven't even finished the first third of the main quest line.

I'm sure I'll be playing it for at least another 100 hours or so.

I can't imagine playing the game for only 20 hours. Its a waste to even play it for that length of time. You miss so much content. Main quest arc is such a tiny part of the game.

 

[Nikolaz72]

I'm in 137 hours, I've only just crush the rebellion...
Though I've been the boss of every guild for a while... Like a boss.

Next storylline quest I have to do is "Diplomatic Immunity"...
But first I want to master enchanting, so I can enchant my legendary Daedric equipment so it at least recharges magica at the same rate as archmage robes and Morokei.
And maybe some resistances...
Those Forsworn Briarhearts with their lightning are a bit hard...
In fact, I have problems fighting most high level mage types...

Why recharge magicka? When you can reduce macicka cost of spells with 100%.

Because I have to do that separately for every school of magic.
Anyway, forst thing I want to do is create a set of clothes with Fortify Enchanting, which I will then use to create a better set of clothes with Fortify Ecnhanting, which I will then use to create a better set of clothes with Fortify Enchanting...

Well, I dont think you can actually fortify enchating with enchantments. Just as you cant fortify alchemy with potions. You have to fortify alchemy with enchantments fortify enchantments with alchemy then fortify alchemy with enchantments..

Actually, I found a helmet which fortifies enchantments by 25%...
Now I just have to find it again it that chest is Breezehome...

OMG...... *Runs off to play skyrim* Thankyou-youaremygod-forumsgotmyhopesdown-yousavedmyday. Technically this means you could just increase enchantment to the point of having 50% mana saved, having the 2 enchantments perk. You could reduce the mana cost of all spell schools to 0. Illusion, Conjuration, Destruction,Restoration,altera(ohno 5) Ah well, its not like you used Alteration anyway.

5? Is that a problem?
Hat, clothes, gloves, boots, ring and amulet...
That's 6 things to enchant, and with that final perk that allows you to put 2 enchantments on something...
12 enchantments. Without weapon or shield.
And no, I haven't used alteration yet, I think...
Though I might put an enchantment on my armour with the Feather effect...

Certain Enchantment works on certain items. You can only enchant Helm/Chest/Amulet/Ring with Magic-cost reduce. They are also the only ones you can enchant with regens. Direct statgain is Gloves/Boots/Shield while damagestuff is, well. Weapons.

 

[GeorgW]

I've played for, let's see, last time I checked it was around 45 hours, and I've been to 4 cities and done maybe 3 main quests. I've cleared maybe 4 dungeons and am level 24. I'm a member of 1 guild, and an applicant in 2. I've done pretty much nothing for 40 hours and I'm never bored, and I absolutely love the game. I agree, this is the way to play the game. But to each his own...

 

[brunothepig]

What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, dicking around is fun. But the fact that I found the main quest compelling enough to follow through with it before my usual 50 hours spent killing every bandit for miles around and becoming head of every guild possible is a good thing. The game is not necessarily meant to be played with 30 hours of wasting time before you do the important stuff. If Bethesda wanted that, they should have removed the level scaling. Or made the quest lines bigger or something.

Chill. Nobody's accusing you of anything.
If you followed main quest to the end AND then you plan to play more, then we have nothing to argue about.
My questions are for those who quickly finished main storyline and stopped playing Skyrim.

The amount of times people assume I'm angry or something. If I had a nickel... I could probably go out for dinner or something. Yeah, I swear a little too casually.
Really, how many people stopped there, except people who didn't enjoy the game anyway? Is it that much of a problem? I haven't seen many (any?) threads (and I've seen a lot of Skyrim threads, as have we all) that had someone talking about how they've finished Skyrim, and they're gonna stop, unless they didn't like it. Which is fair enough, it's far from perfect and obviously not everyone will love it.

 

[babinro]

60 hours on my first playthrough. I felt the game went at an appropriate pace as I did the Companion, Thieves, Mages and Brotherhood quest lines along with the Main.

My second play as a caster will incorporate a lot of the side quests and more pure exploration along with any other key quest lines I missed out on (like the war)

 

[JesterRaiin]

What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, dicking around is fun. But the fact that I found the main quest compelling enough to follow through with it before my usual 50 hours spent killing every bandit for miles around and becoming head of every guild possible is a good thing. The game is not necessarily meant to be played with 30 hours of wasting time before you do the important stuff. If Bethesda wanted that, they should have removed the level scaling. Or made the quest lines bigger or something.

Chill. Nobody's accusing you of anything.
If you followed main quest to the end AND then you plan to play more, then we have nothing to argue about.
My questions are for those who quickly finished main storyline and stopped playing Skyrim.

The amount of times people assume I'm angry or something. If I had a nickel... I could probably go out for dinner or something. Yeah, I swear a little too casually.

We have this saying, i'm not sure how it goes in english... "It's not wrong to err. It's wrong to continue to do so" or sh*t.

Really, how many people stopped there, except people who didn't enjoy the game anyway? Is it that much of a problem? I haven't seen many (any?) threads (and I've seen a lot of Skyrim threads, as have we all) that had someone talking about how they've finished Skyrim, and they're gonna stop, unless they didn't like it. Which is fair enough, it's far from perfect and obviously not everyone will love it.

Well, some people even uninstalled it right after finishing main quest. How many of them are there ? Judging by responses in some topics - there's whole bunch of them. There are no official statistics.

One more thing : i blame also idea of in game achievements. On one hand it extends both gameplay and fun, on the other, it changes the way people play games nowadays. For the wors i'm afraid.