Skyward Sword and Skyrim.

[Agayek]

I personally disagree. There has rarely been a moment in which the controls didn't exactly do what I wanted it to. Aside from the occasional centering, it worked very well. Sure it wasn't always perfect, but I have not yet played a single WM+ game that did motion controls as well as Skyward Sword.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Skyward Sword fanboy. It's not nearly one of my most favorite Zelda games and it probably isn't even my GotY. I also believe it to have its fair share of flaws (such as ridiculously low difficulty, extremely linear and its repetitiveness and lack of originality), but its problem isn't its controls IMO...

OT: Don't really care. Good for them. Both of them have their fair share of annoying fanboys and both games have their fair share of flaws, so I'm not going to attack one side or the other.

It took me 20+ minutes to do the Loftwing tutorial race thing and then another 20 minutes to land in the bloody circle after Zelda threw me off the statue. And let's not forget the 25 minutes to get through the first stage of the first temple's boss because it didn't register my directional attacks properly.

I thoroughly enjoy most of the rest of the game, and I'd be content with saying it's my favorite Zelda game yet if I could just use a bloody Gamecube controller for it.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Meh. I tend to give as much weight to gaming awards as I do the opinion of the general gaming populous.

Which is to say, exceedingly little.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Zelda is the perfect game, while Skyrim is an amazing game.
We all win.

 

[SpaceBat]

It took me 20+ minutes to do the Loftwing tutorial race thing and then another 20 minutes to land in the bloody circle after Zelda threw me off the statue. And let's not forget the 25 minutes to get through the first stage of the first temple's boss because it didn't register my directional attacks properly.

What? Are you sure it's not something else? Perhaps your Wii Motion plus is malfunctioning or something. The Loftwing tutorial merely took me two minutes to adjust to and I hit the middle of the circle within my first try. And I'm pretty bad at motion controls, so I honestly can't imagine why these simple things would cost you this much time.

What happened to you sounds fairly annoying and I understand you hating the controls for this, but as far as I know, this isn't something common or normal.

 

[retyopy]

Shouldn't a mod lock this? There are already flame wars, hell, I'd call them great, firey conflagrations, and one guys been suspended.

OT: Erm... I don't really care about G4, and I like Skyrim a bit more than I like Skyward Sword. Just a bit. They're both great games, so who really cares what an internet poll has to say? Big deal, some people like a game more than another. Whoop-de-doo.

 

[8a88leph1sh]

ugh seeing Assassin's Creed do well makes me a little upset. I haven't played revelations yet but I played 1, 2, and most of brotherhood. You would think after 3 games they would stop doing all the wrong things with it but instead we still get boring, repetitive side missions and gimmicks like da Vinci's flying machine. Also we jumped from the crusades to the Renaissance which was awesome but then we spend 3 freaking games there? seriously? shake things up a bit ubisoft. also aliens? that's the twist you wanted to go with? it's like they watched indiana jones 5 and thought "what a great idea."

 

[Agayek]

What? Are you sure it's not something else? Perhaps your Wii Motion plus is malfunctioning or something. The Loftwing tutorial merely took me two minutes to adjust to and I hit the middle of the circle within my first try. And I'm pretty bad at motion controls, so I honestly can't imagine why these simple things would cost you this much time.

What happened to you sounds fairly annoying and I understand you hating the controls for this, but as far as I know, this isn't something common or normal.

It's possible my WM+ is on the fritz, it is relatively old. I haven't hardly used it though. I'm not sure what's going on, but I do know it's been an exercise in frustration because it requires relatively large changes in pitch to actually register movements.

 

[DarthSka]

I'm not really a fan of G4 either (not anymore at least), but this was voted by users. I did think it was cool that during the voting period, they both traded positions quite a bit, usually between 49 and 51%. Just shows that both games have many fans and rightfully so. I haven't played Skyrim yet (I plan to), but Skyward Sword has become my new favorite game, so congrats to it.

 

[Mr. Omega]

1: G4. Stopped right there.
2: Seriously? A thread like this, on one of the most Nintendo-hating sites on the internet?
3: Ok, I'll bite:

I do appreciate Skyrim's ambition and depth. I do think it's a marvel of a game. And I'm also personally glad a game like it beat out games like Battlefield 3 and Homefront, being able to challenge CoD by just being itself, and doing many of the practices in gaming we should be actively encouraging, many practices that Skyward Sword also does.

I also think Skyward Sword (and a couple of other titles that came out this year, for that matter, but Skyward Sword most of all) deserve the title of "Game of the Year" more. I'm not going to say it's objectively better, but I do think there are plenty of points in its favor. I could go on a long-winded discussion (too late...), but I know that would be a waste of time here. I repeat: one of the most Nintendo-hating sites on the internet. Plus, discussions with skyrim fans are comparable to discussion with CoD fans, as in, comparable to a conversation with a vulgar brick wall.

Also, I read some of the comments... Aren't skyrim fans such pleasant folks?

 

[Keith Reedy]

I don't see why we need threads like this yeah skyward sword got a whole 2 percent higher than skyrim, waah! how old are these people.

I am a skyrim fan but I have enjoyed many Zelda games as well. I consider myself a bethesda fan but some of the people I see posting who are fan make me embarrassed to be so. And the same can be said for zelda, come on people grow up.

On a side note G4 is laughable anyway. Its sad really they started off fairly well but some years they just went to shit.

 

[DustyDrB]

What? Are you sure it's not something else? Perhaps your Wii Motion plus is malfunctioning or something. The Loftwing tutorial merely took me two minutes to adjust to and I hit the middle of the circle within my first try. And I'm pretty bad at motion controls, so I honestly can't imagine why these simple things would cost you this much time.

What happened to you sounds fairly annoying and I understand you hating the controls for this, but as far as I know, this isn't something common or normal.

It's possible my WM+ is on the fritz, it is relatively old. I haven't hardly used it though. I'm not sure what's going on, but I do know it's been an exercise in frustration because it requires relatively large changes in pitch to actually register movements.

I'm seconding the notion that its a problem with your controller. I only have problem with one gesture: The one where you point your sword into the air and then shoot light out of it when you swing. Everything else has been smooth.

 

[LilithSlave]

People even pay attention to G4? Who even cares about television anymore? Cable TV has never been a friend of the gamer. And certainly G4 has never striked me as an important part of the gaming world. How many people even respect G4 in the gaming community? Every time I hear them brought up, I see people bashing G4 as some kind of poseur, "hey can I be one of the game kids too?" thing. And talking about how annoying they find Morgan Webb and Adam Sessler. I dare say that IGN is at least three times as an important part of the gaming world as G4. And just look at their forum, it's almost entirely empty. You can say what you want about IGN, Gamefaqs, 1up, and even the Escapist here, but we're all much huger than G4. Teevee shmeevee.

With that being said, I'm happy that Skyward Sword won. I only knew about this event at all because someone here made a thread that got locked asking for Skyrim to win. I was too late to vote, but luckily my vote wasn't required for Skyward Sword to win. I did get a chance however to vote Skyward Sword in the final round, not that I think it'll need it.

Even if just G4, I'm for anything that helps further establish Skyward Sword as a masterpiece in the eyes of the gaming world. Just like Okami, for all the praise it gets, if anything, it deserves more. And I like how this supplants the biases of the G4 website against Nintendo games. They gave Skyward Sword a lower rating than Skyrim and their immediate fanbase that actually exists generally does agree with them. Meaning a bias against Nintendo games definitely seems to be prevalent there. So to see the 4/5 rated game beat a 5/5 rated game by them is a victory in it's own.

I have to say, I respect Morgan Webb and Adam Sessler about as much as I respect Yahtzee. That is, I don't much respect them at all. As do I not harbor much respect for G4 at all. So it's kind of good to see them a bit supplanted by fans for a change.

And my goodness, the Skyrim fans over there in the comment sections are severely reducing my opinion of the Elder Scrolls fanbase.

Gears of War over Deus Ex? Ha! Not freakin' likely.

I agree. That was a disappointing vote. As much as Human Revolution wasn't quite my cup o' tea. I have a lot more respect for Deus Ex in general than Gears of War. Deus Ex tackles the fascinating issue of transhumanism and has a lot more depth put into it than Gears of War.

Huh? Results of what exactly?

Is it bad that I read this in Trixie's voice?

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Skyrim players were busy playing the actual game. Zelda kids were all fanboying like crazy and rage-voted. Skyrim wins by default

And how pray tell does Skyrim win by default even though Skyrim has it's own legion of crazy and over the top fanboyism?.

Praying is something some "people" do in church. Skyrim wins by default because Zelda has always been and always will be lame as f***.

And Skyrim doesn't have fanboys. It's got zombies and mental patients as fans.

You obviously didn't get my meaning (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pray_tell) And you saying Skyrim wins by default and that Zelda is lame is just your simple opinion and not a fact so yeah good luck with that.

Personally I don't mind either Skyrim or Zelda but I'm certainly not going to praise one and shit on the other like a 12 yr old.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Skyrim players were busy playing the actual game. Zelda kids were all fanboying like crazy and rage-voted. Skyrim wins by default

And how pray tell does Skyrim win by default even though Skyrim has it's own legion of crazy and over the top fanboyism?.

Praying is something some "people" do in church. Skyrim wins by default because Zelda has always been and always will be lame as f***.

And Skyrim doesn't have fanboys. It's got zombies and mental patients as fans.

You obviously didn't get my meaning (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pray_tell) And you saying Skyrim wins by default and that Zelda is lame is just your simple opinion and not a fact so yeah good luck with that.

Personally I don't mind either Skyrim or Zelda but I'm certainly not going to praise one and shit on the other like a 12 yr old.

Just keep trying bro, just keep trying.

Baawh, but your gonna be so mature as to run around the net calling people 12 year olds. So cute and hypocritical. And i know what pray tell means, hurp.

I would like to refute your point with:

 

[VanityGirl]

Dead Space 2 won over Infamous 2... -_-"

Really?

 

[The Mythmaker]

I have a question:

Why is this even being discussed?

For one, these games have almost nothing in common. Outside of the premise (destined hero in medieval setting to save the world), everything else is superficial.

They're not even on the same level. They're on completely different consoles, with completely different technical limitations, and completely different core audiences. It's like trying to compare Legend of Zelda (NES) with Ocarina of Time.

Sure, you might like one better, but that doesn't make it objectively "better". This goes especially to you who say that "poor" reviews (4/5, how dare they not give a perfect score!) are undeserved because a lot of people like it. Twilight is exteremly popular; does that mean that poor reviews of it are undeserved? And no, I'm not comparing the two franchises, only the situation.

You want to say SS is the best Zelda game? You might have a case for that. But we're talking about a popularity contest here, between games that aren't remotely comparable.

 

[Erttheking]

Skyrim players were busy playing the actual game. Zelda kids were all fanboying like crazy and rage-voted. Skyrim wins by default

And how pray tell does Skyrim win by default even though Skyrim has it's own legion of crazy and over the top fanboyism?.

Praying is something some "people" do in church. Skyrim wins by default because Zelda has always been and always will be lame as f***.

And Skyrim doesn't have fanboys. It's got zombies and mental patients as fans.

You obviously didn't get my meaning (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pray_tell) And you saying Skyrim wins by default and that Zelda is lame is just your simple opinion and not a fact so yeah good luck with that.

Personally I don't mind either Skyrim or Zelda but I'm certainly not going to praise one and shit on the other like a 12 yr old.

Baawh, but your gonna be so mature as to run around the net calling people 12 year olds. So cute and hypocritical. And i know what pray tell means, hurp.

Well maybe he wouldn't call you a 12 year old if you didn't act like one. Considering that you rattled on about how Skyward Sword fans just spammed votes just to let the world know about how good the game is while Skyrim fans were playing the game and didn't care about it, making broad generalizations like that is REALLY immature. Just saying.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

This is just as bad as saying "Ooooh, Skyward sword got a 10 and Skyrim got a 9.9, Skyward Sword is soooooo much better!"

For the love of God, please just let others enjoy what they enjoy.

Also remember two things. The first is that Skyward Sword is more appropriate for the kiddies, so it automatically gets a boost there. The second is that I just took an arrow to the knee and forgot what the second one was.

Damn it.

That the game was technically stable and properly designed? Also, I hope you have money. After the recent rash of arrow related knee injuries, insurance companies stopped covering those types of injuries.

 

[Epona]

Skyrim should have won the BGOTY, the Buggiest Game of the Year.

 

[Epona]

I have a question:

Why is this even being discussed?

For one, these games have almost nothing in common. Outside of the premise (destined hero in medieval setting to save the world), everything else is superficial.

They're not even on the same level. They're on completely different consoles, with completely different technical limitations, and completely different core audiences. It's like trying to compare Legend of Zelda (NES) with Ocarina of Time.

Sure, you might like one better, but that doesn't make it objectively "better". This goes especially to you who say that "poor" reviews (4/5, how dare they not give a perfect score!) are undeserved because a lot of people like it. Twilight is exteremly popular; does that mean that poor reviews of it are undeserved? And no, I'm not comparing the two franchises, only the situation.

You want to say SS is the best Zelda game? You might have a case for that. But we're talking about a popularity contest here, between games that aren't remotely comparable.

All games are comparable. If you want to play that way, then how about "Skyrim can't win any GOTY contests because there is nothing to compare it too"?