SMACH Z Cancels Handheld Steam Machine Kickstarter - Update

[Something Amyss]

Yeah, I don't believe it's going to perform to promises. If it can, I'll consider buying one. But for now, I'll stick with my money.

 

[Jingle Fett]

This thing will fail and fail hard.

1). It's a cut down version of a product that already has no market, i.e the Steam Machine
2). Due to it's size and obvious hardware limitations it will have an even more limited game market than the Steam machine already has.
3). It's targeting a market that has resulted in failure for every manufacturer that has released a console in to it. I.e the attempt to deliver direct ports of home games console games (in this case PC games) to the handheld market. The reason why the Gameboy and it's many iterations have succeeded is because the games were never direct ports (in most cases) they were games designed from the ground up to work on the handheld.

Also

Powerful enough to play any game on the market: Portal 2, DOTA, Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, SOMA, Civilization V, Metro: Last Light Redux, Borderlands 2, The Witcher 2

GTA5, wait a minute unpacked GTA5 comes out at 85Gb and the device only has 64Gb of internal memory, so NO not powerful enough to play ANY game on the market.

1) Says you but the reality is that there is in fact a market for Steam Machines. You're just not it and solipsism leads you to believe that because you don't want it, nobody else does. Heck I have a high-end PC with a GTX 980 Ti and I can see even myself getting a Steam Machine at some point in the future. Certainly a better investment than a PS4 or Xbone...

2) If it can run Portal, Half-Life 2, and the other games mentioned in the list, that's good enough for me. The Steam Controller tech has proven to be good enough to handle these types of games. And most PC games can be configured to run on lower settings anyways, not to mention that most indie games have low requirements. That's a massive library right there.

3) Mind you I'm not saying this device won't still fail or flop. But there's a big difference between this and previous attempts. One huge difference is the interface, the use of steam controller tech specifically. This is a controller that was designed from the ground up to work with most PC games, which means porting is a non-issue. It doesn't matter AT ALL whether the games are designed with the handheld market in mind or not.
The second difference is that it uses Steam, which has a pre-existing library with many games. Other handheld consoles that tried to compete with the Gameboy didn't have this advantage--they had to start their library from scratch, thus the consoles had little content. SteamBoy on the other hand has all this: https://steamdb.info/linux/

Also on GTA 5 you're nitpicking over HDD space. Their Pro version has 8gb ram and 128gb HDD space.

 

[9tailedflame]

Ehhh, to be honest, i like that steam is purely PC right now. I mean don't get me wrong, portability is nice, but i feel like if steam start's making consoles, they'll start putting more effort and resources into supporting that console than supporting PCs. I mean i love steam, but there's more work to be done in other areas before making a console.

 

[Rednog]

Ehhh, to be honest, i like that steam is purely PC right now. I mean don't get me wrong, portability is nice, but i feel like if steam start's making consoles, they'll start putting more effort and resources into supporting that console than supporting PCs. I mean i love steam, but there's more work to be done in other areas before making a console.

Steam isn't making this, the group SMACH is. A steam machine is simply a machine that has steam on it.
And last I checked Valve/Steam doesn't really "support anything", Steam is simply a means of digital distribution, they really have no hand in "support" to any games on the platform outside of the ones they themselves produce.

 

[Laughing Man]

1) Says you but the reality is that there is in fact a market for Steam Machines.

No their really really isn't. Their was a nugget of a market when this entire stupid idea popped up around 2 years ago. Since then the PC market has moved on MS has moved on with their delivery of Windows 10 and tech has moved on, you can now buy full fat Windows PCs that are as small as compact and about the same price and they will play your FULL Steam Library. The only feature of note in the Steam Machine, the Streaming service, can now be done better by dedicated devices that are smaller and cheaper and anyone who owns a Nivdia card can get a better streaming service using a Nvidia shield. The market has gone, Valve are late to the party and their Steam Machines are a dead concept that will sell purely on the Valve fanboy hype, however if ever the concept that if you throw enough shit at a wall you will find a nice chunk of tasty corn the Steam controller is proof of this. The controller is the only thing that will make Valve any real cash out of this entire pointless waste of time. Finally gamers have an alternative to the XBox controller for their PCs.

 

[UsefulPlayer 1]

Nerds always tell me a gaming laptop is unrealistic, now there is advertising for a gaming handheld...

I don't get it.

 

[Smooth Operator]

So they are back around again with a new name, different looking machine, different specs,... unsurprisingly still no working model.
If you are giving money to hardware people who have not shown any hardware then you are a special kind of stupid, but it is your money so throw it into whatever pit suits you.

 

[elvor0]

Nerds always tell me a gaming laptop is unrealistic, now there is advertising for a gaming handheld...

I don't get it.

I don't get what you don't get. Just because lots of people say something is unrealistic, that doesn't mean the company making this follows the same opinion. The industry isn't some sort of hivemind.

 

[The Enquirer]

Nerds always tell me a gaming laptop is unrealistic, now there is advertising for a gaming handheld...

I don't get it.

I think the argument, that I've used several times myself, is that if you're going to spend all that money on a gaming laptop, to game on, it's far, far more efficient to simply get a desktop unless you really need something that the laptop can offer (portability and size) that the desktop can't because you generally can't replace your GPU in a laptop. A handheld though, while its main benefits are still size and portability, is a whole other beast because of just how big that difference is.

That said if I were to tell someone something is stupid regardless of how stupid it actually is, it 1) doesn't mean there isn't demand for it and 2) doesn't mean someone isn't willing to provide that item.

Trump is a wonderful example of that stupid thing I feel no one needs but apparently a lot of other people feel otherwise.

 

[alj]

A few alteration need to be made to improve this before they re-launch.

Internal storage is far too small 120gb minimum with option for 250gb , SD is too slow for larger steam type games. Or have a mini PCI-e card slot for mini pci SSDs

the APU and GPU and combo is fine but needs to be higher end , it would essentially then be a more powerful xbox1 or ps4 thats portable. On a screen that small they could even drop it to 720p and it would be fine this would improve performance.

 

[senaji]

The machine is rather complete on paper but, for now, it is only a project. Develop and industrialize a complex project like this requires a little more competence than to make Android tablets in China. I wish them good luck all the same.



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