Smash Bros. Director Hints At New Pokemon In Smash 4

[Buizel91]

Could you research before making comments like that? In all honesty, what's the point of doing that? It just makes you look uninformed and ignorant.

Bwahaha!

Okay, here's my "research" straight from a Pokemon fan site:

In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone. The player must use their Mega Ring, which contains a Key Stone, to resonate with the Mega Stone held by their Pokémon to trigger Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution can only occur in battle and disappears after the battle is over.

So in other words, "Mega Evolution" is an evolutionary state triggered by special symbolic items that force the Pokemon into a highly-advanced state during combat, and they promptly are forced to leave that state when combat ends because the transformation is temporary and too strong to sustain permanently.

Am I wrong in my interpretation there? No, I'm not, at least not if the data provided is correct. So I've "researched" it just fine.

So now let's talk about Digimon, whose TV show featured monsters that would regularly evolve into highly-advanced states that are triggered by special symbolic items, and would (out of combat) drop out of those evolution states because of the energy they require to maintain. Sound familiar? Of course it does, it's essentially the same damn thing. Pokemon uses "stones", Digimon used "crests" (and later, "eggs" and other such devices). All of my buddies who still play Pokemon (the few who do) even explained it to me as "it's basically Digimon but for Pokemon". Hell, Digimon even called one of their evolutionary states "Mega". This is as blatant of a concept ripoff as they come, and even the fans know it.

The only "uninformed and ignorant" comment here is yours, since it seems you actually thought that Pokemon was being new and innovative for stealing a competitor's idea from about 12-14 years ago.

In Digimon it wasn't always temporary, for the Digimon belonging to the Digi-Destined it was because they hadn't Digivolved naturally, The only one on the team that did was Gatomon (She was always in her Champion State) There were many Digimon we saw right off the bat that didn't Digivolve into Mega and didn't revert to Rookie stage, Metalseadramon, Piedmon and Puppetmon being 3 examples. They were all Permanent as they had hit that evolution naturally.

So it's kind of the same, but there are differences, Pokemon can't hit the Mega Stage naturally, where Digimon could Digivolve naturally.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Probably come from Pokeball items, all of the version mascots do.

And really, I don't see why this is news. It's a given that Nintendo are gonna do it. I'm more interested about the Wii Fit trainer though. I mean... it's not even a character. It's a faceless, uncanny.. thing. And it's in a huge crossover fic of a game...

 

[Hero of Lime]

I know it won't happen seeing as how version mascots are always in Poke balls, but being able to use Reshiram and Zekrom either controlled by N or the player trainer from Black and White would be a dream come true for me. Though I wouldn't mind playing as Xerneas either.

Imo, they should get rid of all Pokemon in the series and create a new SSB just for Pokemon I want to play with Blaziken, scizor and haunter.

I would some Pokemon to stay, but yes, a Super Smash Bros. game with every Pokemon would be one of the best things ever, also one of the hardest games to create. Balancing issues through the roof!

 

[RejjeN]

So it's kind of the same, but there are differences, Pokemon can't hit the Mega Stage naturally, where Digimon could Digivolve naturally.

Well... There is an episode/OVA of the pokemon anime where a Mewtwo (not THE Mewtwo, as the one in the mentioned episode/OVA was female) was able to "mega evolve" by itself, even if it wasn't permanent. So I guess they can partially do it naturally? xD

 

[Buizel91]

So it's kind of the same, but there are differences, Pokemon can't hit the Mega Stage naturally, where Digimon could Digivolve naturally.

Well... There is an episode/OVA of the pokemon anime where a Mewtwo (not THE Mewtwo, as the one in the mentioned episode/OVA was female) was able to "mega evolve" by itself, even if it wasn't permanent. So I guess they can partially do it naturally? xD

Mewtwo is a legendary Pokemon, her Powers far outreach that of normal Pokemon, it's possibly she had enough power to Mega Evolve for a short amount of time. xD

Mewtwo is the only Legendary to Mega Evolve, keep that in mind.

Also question, was there a Megastone nearby?

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

Is no one going to point out that Dialga and Palkia weren't actually pokeball assits in Brawl, but rather just part of the background scenery until they tried to kill everyone?

I don't really see how Xerneas would be as a playable character. Has there ever been a smash bros character who was exclusively a quadroped?

 

[BooTsPs3]

Is no one going to point out that Dialga and Palkia weren't actually pokeball assits in Brawl, but rather just part of the background scenery until they tried to kill everyone?

I don't really see how Xerneas would be as a playable character. Has there ever been a smash bros character who was exclusively a quadroped?

This. Not to sound rude, but shouldn't someone knowledgeable on the series be the one posting information about it? It seems like the writer didn't play much smash bros at all(if any)

 

[nuba km]

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I would just like to point out mewtwo was made in a lab and has no gender, also there is only one mewtwo (as it blew up the lab/scientist who created it). Mewtwo only talks after mega evolving (if I remember it correctly) so mewtwo most likely just got a more feminine voice once mega evolved. I know that some legendary pokemon are not one of a kind like heatran or zapdos but there is just one mewtwo unless someone decided to make a second almost godly psychic being and also got their hands on mewtwo or mew DNA.

OT: probably just comes out of a pokebal or is part of a map.

 

[Story]

There will always be new Pokemon in new SSB games.

The question is all about playability. Personally I think they are either going to bring back Mewtwo or Lucario, and their new smash move will be them mega evolving into their respective forms.

This.

I'm really hoping for an announcement regarding a playable character from the pokemon universe.
Personally, I would love the return of Pokemon Trainer. He was very unique.

 

[Buizel91]

In Digimon it wasn't always temporary, for the Digimon belonging to the Digi-Destined it was because they hadn't Digivolved naturally, The only one on the team that did was Gatomon (She was always in her Champion State) There were many Digimon we saw right off the bat that didn't Digivolve into Mega and didn't revert to Rookie stage, Metalseadramon, Piedmon and Puppetmon being 3 examples. They were all Permanent as they had hit that evolution naturally.

So it's kind of the same, but there are differences, Pokemon can't hit the Mega Stage naturally, where Digimon could Digivolve naturally.

From what I understand, the Pokemon's "Mega Evolution" is a forced transformation as well, so it sounds to me like it's exactly the same thing.

Also I'm pretty sure that the advanced states of the examples you gave were primarily examples of villains doing it (even Gatomon, who was the only Digimon among the Digi-Destined with a natural Champ state, did so during her service to Myotismon), and I'm pretty sure the villains were allowed to twist the rules a lot throughout the series to serve as a way to raise the stakes throughout each season. But yes, in some cases, digivolution was "natural". Those cases weren't really what I was referring to, however. I was referring to the comparison of Pokemon trainer to Digi-Destined, in which the mechanics are essentially identical.

It wasn't forced in Digimon at all, The Digimon wanted to Digivolve to help there friends, the Digivices just aided that process. Mega Evolution could be the same, but considering the Pokemon have to hold a stone, and the trainer has to activate the Mega Ring, i'd call that forced. Where as both the Digidestined and the Digimon have to activate the Digivice (When the trainer is in danger, and when the Digimon wants to help, there arte many instances where they refuse to Digivolve)

In one instance in Digimon, it was forced. When Tai tried to force Agumon to get to the ultimate stage, as he was the only one who could at the time. The result ended up being Skull Greymon, afterwards Tai never forced Agumon again. So its safe to say, if its "forced" the Digimon end up turning into bad Digmon, or, Virus types.

Again, its kind of the same, but there are big differences, mainly to do with how the evolution begins.

 

[attackshark]

retain current roster.

add additional trainer from a different region.

bring mewtwo back.

fix metaknight.

(mic drop)