Just replace corn with SNES Classic.
Anyway, is anyone surprised? Are any of us really that upset about it that have emulators? Or hell, got some connections with some old geeks who actually repair and sell the original consoles?
SNES Classic. Once again, no one can get it
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Just replace corn with SNES Classic.
Anyway, is anyone surprised? Are any of us really that upset about it that have emulators? Or hell, got some connections with some old geeks who actually repair and sell the original consoles?
Yoshi178 said:
Well, since you lovely people ask...cathou said:
You can make the argument that shipping is hard, but then you have to remember that Nintendo has been in operation since I was a kid. I saw the rise of the actual NES. Now, tell me... After all these years, after all this time, can you really say that Nintendo can't punch up the numbers to figure out a proper amount of units? Hell, let's wipe away all but the last ten years of making, shipping, and selling devices and games. Do you think they don't know how to allocate all that is necessary by now, being a business whose job it is to do this very thing?
These are Classics, not 3DS devices. They're not immensely complicated things to build, nor should it be hard to send them about in proper numbers. There are only two explanations, friendly apologists, to repeatedly doing this with their products. Either they are truly inept at this game and just don't have the thought in their head to send more products after so many failures, or they do it for this BS artificial shortage plan which...makes no real sense, really. People are going to buy it anyway. Holding out just separates you from the money.
How many units do I think they can produce? MANY. More than this gasping cough. Nintendo has money and resources. So, unless the Classics are all powered by uranium, send 'em out. As for the store allocations, give me a break. If they haven't figured that out by now, then as I said, they're either idiots or pretending to be idiots. There's a difference between figuring out how much to send to places, and how much NOT to send out so that a ton of people never get product.
well for starters, games, games consoles and merchandise come in all completely different shapes and sizes. do you think that Nintendo measure's exactly how much space, right down to the centremetre, for each different size and shape, just how much stock can fill within literally every singles stores storage room as well as on the shelves where the customers see do you?FalloutJack said:
yeah right. that's not Nintendo's job to work out how much stock they can stuff in literally every store. that's the retailers problem, they're the ones to work out how much stock they can hold and need to order. and just to make things even more fun and more complicated, pre order numbers literally go up and down all the time because some items are more highly sought after than others, so Nintendo and the retailer also need to work out how much demand there is for an item at the same time.
so no. no it's not just Nintendo's, or any other videogame console manufacturers job to work out much stock every single store can hold and how much demand for a system there is, it's ALSO the retailer's job to do that and they play a big role in helping the hardware supplier, in this case being Nintendo, work out exactly how big the demand for a product is and also how much stock the store can hold at any one time. Nintendo's main role there would to work out how much they can produce in a certain time and then work out how much of the amount that they produce, they can distribute even among stores where the stores with higher demand get more stock than the ones with no demand for a product.
let's use mcdonalds as an example. let's say a million people order and eat cheeseburgers at 1 mcdonalds store within a month, 500'000 people eat burgers at a 2nd store within a month, and the people in the 3rd city don't really like burgers. they just want fries so only 1000 burgers get eaten in a month at the third mcdonald's store.
obviously the most burger patties will be sent by the supplier to the 2 stores that have had the most people buying and eating cheeseburgers during the month whereas not many people ate burgers during that month so they only send a small amount, let's say 1500 burger patties to the third store in the 2nd month.
BUT WAIT! all of sudden everything changes in the following month and the people living in the towns with the first to mcdonalds stores decide they hate burgers now and only 1000 people buy and eat cheeseburgers in the following month. but now everyone in the city with the 3rd store in it LOVES burgers now! there's 5 million people in the 3rd city that now want burgers but because noone bought and ate burgers at the store last month, they were only sent 1500 burger patties to stock the store, now there's millions of people who are mad because they missed out on getting a burger in the 2nd month because the 3rd store didn't order enough stock to account for that change in demand and the first 2 stores ended up being completely overstocked.
So to wrap up that completely weird and stupid sounding analogy, that can also be applied to videogame stores and consoles as well. with the NES mini and SNES mini. Nintendo and retailers didn't expect shitloads of people to want and buy their stock of the SNES mini so they underprodced it. they expected more to want the SNES mini so as many people in this thread have said already, they have provided retailers with much more stock than they had last time, but they also have to be careful, because they don't want to overstock either and then waste a lot of my by manufacturing and sending stock to stores that didn't need to be sent, like with the the Wii U
TL;DR. Nintendo should supply stores with more stock which is what they've done and they will continue to keep producing and restocking stores like they have already said they would. but they don't want and shouldn't overstock either and waste their time and money overstocking what didn't need to stocked.
I got to Target 15 minutes after it opened, got in a long line inside the store and got one day one. They said they had 140 or so this time, which isn't ideal, but a hell of an improvement over the NES Classic.
I was moving out of state and basically delayed my move by a few days in order to stake out my Target and Toys R Us. lol, priorities.
People started lining up at Toys R Us, which opened at 10AM, the night before. Target opened at 8AM, I walked in at 815 and walked out at 845 or so.
Still haven't been able to sit down with it for more than 30 minutes because of the move, but boy am I a happy 11 year old again.
I was moving out of state and basically delayed my move by a few days in order to stake out my Target and Toys R Us. lol, priorities.
People started lining up at Toys R Us, which opened at 10AM, the night before. Target opened at 8AM, I walked in at 815 and walked out at 845 or so.
Still haven't been able to sit down with it for more than 30 minutes because of the move, but boy am I a happy 11 year old again.
My local Game got 20 according to the clerk. And that Game is the only one within an hours drive for a few nearby towns.
You know, your nice big speech aside, it is in fact Nintendo's stock-in-trade to do what I said they should be doing, because that is what would satisfy customers, the people who give them money. So yeah, they really should be knowing and doing all the stuff properly. You can argue with me, and you can argue the next time it goes wrong, and the next time, and the next time. The point will be that it keeps happening, and it will still be wrong. Don't PR the problem. Fix it.Yoshi178 said:
since you seem to think the problem is completely Black & White and as simple as saying "fix it" and hoping it magically gets fixed. then why don't you start your own videogame business and "fix it" then?FalloutJack said:
you seem to know it all after all.
I'm not taking a black-and-white reaction. I'm taking a realistic one where after so many bloody failures, I cite that they don't have pattern recognition. You're the one making an extremist response. Really, so I should go into business for myself to make video games, huh? Not 'They should check their figures after like nine times wrong', but 'I have to go into business for myself just to prove I can math'. Well, smart guy, if I DID manage to get some kind of team together, I'd be on Steam. I like physical media, but I also have Steam games, and that one's easier to distribute, so that's good for a beginner. And there's the key point. I'd still be a beginner at game development, even playing it smart. Whereas Nintendo was up and about when I was a child. For the experienced, this should be less of a challenge. Not an arduous journey, more of a long and tedious one. Also, how dare you be mad at Queen for being in your head...Yoshi178 said:
you say it's a realistic reaction. well if it's so easy to just "fix" then you do it.FalloutJack said:
So? if it's so easy to run a worldwide business then you do it and start a business if just "fixing" a stock problem with the snap of your fingers is THAT easy.FalloutJack said:
Like you said. Nintendo was up and about when you were in diapers and they're still going. the management there obviously knows alot more about how to run the business than you do.
You offer nothing in return here. And no, insults don't count. This is a math problem, and you just threw the standard and unfounded opinion that such-and-so knows what they are doing, despite not doing it repeatedly. That's pretty much the game, right there.Yoshi178 said: