Could you send me a copy of your non-human English dictionaries? Cause that sounds awesome.
So Biden-Haters: why Trump over Biden?
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That sounds like some pretty Republican problem solving for someone so against Republicans. Cut some red tape, open up the free market, lift people up by their communities rather than shoving them into failed federal experiments? Sounds a lot like Republicans.
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Inside Exarcheia: the self-governing community Athens police want rid of
The central Athens neighbourhood of Exarcheia, which has helped house refugees, is in the crosshairs of a government crackdown
www.theguardian.com
Squats are a preferrable alternative to camps or centers for many, since its by the community for the community. It doesn't place anyone in a hierarchical position of power within which they might exploit those less fortunate than them, and everyone is held to account horizontally. It depends on who does them, since very often they can be used for trafficking, but the type that Neuro was talking about is not the den of iniquity you're talking about. These are accomodations where people can live in for as long as they'd like so long as they don't break the rules, which are enforced by a politically motivated group of people opposed to injustices.
If a government is able to build sustainable social housing sure. Rarely though does that sort of planning happen fast enough to accomodate the most vulnerable, and often it gets abandoned the second some jackass gets the reigns of power.
The nephilim aren't even legendary creatures, their records can't be that special.
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No, the Republicans oppose this at every level because as I mentioned before, it is 100% tax payer funded and even those who permanently will have zero income and no work requirements will have access to the same housing, schools and share the same parks, playgrounds, waiting rooms and community pools as everyone else and the republicans work tooth and nail to keep them out of their neighborhoods instead.Also, this will apply to new homes as well if there are not enough available. Right now, only those who can afford it have access to these things.. Having these thing subsidized on the federal level eliminates the need for their neighbors to know their financial situation at all rather than stigmatize them socially as a 'needy family' and make them the poster child for the church. No one needs to be aware of their economic hardships on the local level at all. Often the same community programs that are meant to help people wind up harming them by having their community treat them as 'less than' others and that is part of what needs to be eliminated to break the cycle and increase their outcomes long term.
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Yes, However,we are talking about the US here, where they have empty Hotels sitting across from people sleeping on the sidewalk. When it would be easier to put them in the hotels while they wait for permanent housing and no actual reason temporary housing needs to be built at all. In regions like the DFW metro in the US, we have suburbs with people from all ethnicity , backgrounds, religions living on the same street in the same neighborhoods. Just expanding that further to include those less fortunate mixed in to those same communities just like everyone else via federal funding removing economic desegregation, it eliminates the issue long term and better evenly distributes the resources necessary to support them among the communities rather than heavily taxing resources in one area and removing their ability to elevate their economic and social position due to restricted access to resources.Inside Exarcheia: the self-governing community Athens police want rid of
The central Athens neighbourhood of Exarcheia, which has helped house refugees, is in the crosshairs of a government crackdown
Squats are a preferrable alternative to camps or centers for many, since its by the community for the community. It doesn't place anyone in a hierarchical position of power within which they might exploit those less fortunate than them, and everyone is held to account horizontally. It depends on who does them, since very often they can be used for trafficking, but the type that Neuro was talking about is not the den of iniquity you're talking about. These are accomodations where people can live in for as long as they'd like so long as they don't break the rules, which are enforced by a politically motivated group of people opposed to injustices.
If a government is able to build sustainable social housing sure. Rarely though does that sort of planning happen fast enough to accomodate the most vulnerable, and often it gets abandoned the second some jackass gets the reigns of power.
The middle class suburbs in the US have resources available that are currently being denied to low income families. Mixing them in via government provided support allows them to access the same resources and will end the persistent cycle of poverty induced by economic segregation. Keeping in mind we are talking about the US here, not Malta.
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EDIT: Sonofaaa learn something new everyday
Because that's the most HORRIBLE way to deal with a demagogue. Its just begging for an even worse one to take their place.
Removing Trump through murder gives his supporters an out. It allows them the delusion that he would have done great things if he hadn't been taken away too soon. And society at large will go along with that to some extend. He won't be the openly corrupt and incompetent president anymore, but the president that got tragically murdered making it only polite to focus more on the good and let bygones be bygones regarding his many terrible traits. People might even blame those who opposed Trump's corruption or ridiculed his incompetence as having indirectly driven the murderer to take Trump's life.
If he's murdered Trump's voters have all the reason in the world to keep thinking very highly of him, to keep being angry and everything and everyone. And then a new demagogue emerges saying he'll give them what Trump tragically could not have given them, that he's going to pick up his legacy and punish that dastardly establishment for having their hero assassinated.
Demagogues must be exposed as frauds and spat out by society, not be made into a martyr that the next demagogue could exploit. Oh, and murder in general is just wrong.
You're saying that as if that doesn't happen in Greece. Hell, I've been to Exarcheia, I've stayed in a hotel in Athens too. That's a non-sequitour to the point Neuro was making and the one I'm making.
Note: at no point did Neuro or I said we're against social housing, just that he and I are against demonising squats and having some sort of arbitrary preference for homeless shelters. The point about Exarcheia was that if a group of politically motivated people in the neighbourhood decide to set up a squat system to help the least fortunate, like refugees, addicts and the homeless, and that if it has been shown to succeed in a major metropolitan area, then it is objectively a good structure since it's been shown to succeed if its handled well. If you'll read the article, people tesitfy to a feeling of community and warmth that they don't get in refugee camps. It's empirically verified.
I genuinely have no clue what Malta has to do with this. I posted an example from Greece. I could also post examples of similar communal projects in Chiapas and squatter networks in London and the point would remain the same. Just because the US is an absurdly wealthy country that doesn't even have the decency to have its own citizens benefit from its abhorrent imperialism and colonialism has no bearing on the fact that it suffers from the same issues regarding poverty as any other country.
Greece had better funded welfare policies than America ever did (and still does if begrudgingly so) and they're willing to fight tooth and nail for it. Social housing also exists, people also get dicked out of social housing by liberal mandates, which, whilst still being worth fighting for in the short term, also means that long term such proposals are left up to the government when regular people could take action instead (in your case, say, the equivalent would be of seizing hotels to make into shelters and squats, which is a genuine option on the table). The squats are a situation where people decided that enough is enough and after taking the matter into their own hands, they've succeeded (also by building methadone clinics in Exarcheia with voluntary medics to boot to help addicts). Notice how then the government took it upon themselves to conjure up a smorgasbord of excuses to attack the neighbourhood. If you haven't, you can also ask Neuro about that subject.
I suggest you compare what you're saying to the Republican position on school vouchers. Republicans say the exact same things about ending the economic segregation of schools.
Also, from a historical perspective, the housing voucher program was a step in the direction you want made by Republicans. The move from "projects" to vouchers used for private residences is actually a Republican initiative.
If you haven't thought this all the way through, please just say so. It's a waste of both our time to keep asking you the same question and get the same non-answers.
Not to mention, Pence gets to be PotUS, and he'd immediately put in all sorts of draconian emergency measures. And I'd not totally blame him, because if your head of state gets offed that's a legitimate emergency. I'd imagine it'd be on par with, if not worse than, the response to the 2001 attacks.
The biggest difference between republican and Democrat programs here is that this would be 'needs' based and actually give the poor more tax payer money to move to affluent neighborhoods and would not have work requirements or expect them to pay the money back. The GOP universally oppose giving any money to the poor at all here, let alone pay them to move next door to them. They want vouchers to Segregate communities further rather than use them to desegregate. The devil is in the details.
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Edit- I see you are also a sorcerer of the zones. Dreadful.
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I really don't think you understand the difference in party perspectives. The Democratic perspective on an issue like this isn't to expand access to market resources, that isn't how Democrats try to fix problems, it's to throw the government at the problem. See the National Housing Trust Fund, a fund used to build ultra low-income public housing. Expanding public housing is the specified response of multiple Democratic presidential candidates. Bernie Sanders pays lip-service to "combat exclusionary zoning", but his actual actionable policy prescriptions are billions in government operated public housing and trillions in "permanently affordable housing". They're still engineering slums, even when we know that's what will happen.
Republicans aren't against housing assistance. Trump has had HUD cuts in his budget proposals, and they get a bipartisan slap down every time. Republicans often want reforms to prevent abuse or disincentivize dependency. Specifically, we want those who are capable to be using their time to work, study, or volunteer, and for properties to be maintained. You give me a neighbor who maintains their property and uses their time productively, I don't care who they are or who is paying for them to be next door.
The US does not actually suffer from the SAME problems, you have to have the solution match the problem rather than attempt to fit a square peg into a round hole here. I specifically mentioned Malta because of they have suffered tremendously from extreme migrant issues in very limited space and resources on their small island. You cannot overload a raft in Africa and make it to the US. It doesn't work this way here. The US is not part of a larger system within the EU, where you may or may not have options to allow relocation in other EU nations spreading out the problem. The other primary issue in Europe in general vs the US is due to the age of established neighborhoods in most of Europe, is there is not as much flexibility with establishing new housing among already established neighborhoods as exists in the US, thus also leading to further segregation along cultural lines. Most of the US is rural by comparison and has an abundance of newly built cities and neighborhoods allowing for a level of flexibility that simply does not exist in many other regions. We cannot use the same method to solve the issues in the US to solve the problems in Greece as they do not have the same options and resources available to do so. That is why I am solely focusing on solutions for the US in a thread about the US as we would have to start another thread to discuss housing problems in Greece as that is off topic. This being a thread about Biden and his actual policies here, I was discussing Obama's housing program to move low income people into affluent areas and how Biden will be working to expand those programs as well.
Specifically how this pertains to Obama and Biden's actual policies here:
Obama making bid to diversify wealthy neighborhoods
Rules in the works are drawing fire from critics who cry overreach.
thehill.com
The Biden Plan for Investing in Our Communities through Housing - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website
Joe Biden is running for President to rebuild the middle class and ensure that this time everyone comes along. He believes the middle class isn’t a number, but a value set which includes the ability to own your own home and live in a safe community. Housing should be a right, not a privilege...
joebiden.com
We do have to throw the government at the problem in order to force wealthy communities to allow the government to pay the poor to move into wealthy neighborhoods and have the wealthy pay for it. The Republicans like to throw obstacles to prevent people from using the subsidized programs thus restrict who can and cannot use them at all, and force the poor into working for slave wages that allow the republicans to further profit from others labor and force them to rely on becoming a poster child needy family receiving assistance from the church. This plan would eliminate the need to work for slave wages in addition to needing to rely on charity and begging for assistance from your community in order to survive at all necessarily resulting in an increase of both wages and working conditions that republicans have been fighting against.
Who determines whether they are using their time productively here? Do you think you have the right to police your neighbors private behavior in their own home? Some people with medical conditions may have to sleep up to 18 hours a day just for their bodies to heal less than yours does in 6, and it is none of your business what they are doing with the hours they are awake here. Whether they are sitting out on their lawns looking at you or you never see them because they are asleep all the time, what they do is up to them, not to be scrutinized by onlookers any more than they should police what you do with your time. In addition to funding their housing we ALSO have to fund and supply the maintenance, as that is expensive and impossible for those with disabilities and illnesses to maintain at all. The biggest misconception that much of the GOP have here is that the poor do not take pride in their homes. It takes time, money and ability to be able to do those things, much of which the poor do not have as well due to poor health, harsh working conditions and lack of funding. AND yes, we solve that as well by throwing more government at it by providing them with the maintenance they need as well.
EDIT: Also, the reason the democrats keep building low income housing is because they currently have no other options for immediate relief right now due to Republicans blocking the long term solutions and also block putting the people up in hotels and resorts in wealthy areas while we wait for the long term solutions to happen here. The GOP does not offer any real viable solutions to get everyone off the street right immediately, especially those whose whose health and financial situations are likely to remain unchanged. Doing so would require providing them with healthcare, including mental health care and treatments for substance abuse. The GOP is blocking all of those efforts, not providing implementable solutions.
Can you imagine Trump's reaction if he had to put up homeless people in his Hotels and resorts and share the dining room with them? That would be a sight to see. LOL!
This is pretty how much that would work:
Why one California resident opened his $4M home and heart to a homeless couple
Greg Dunston and Marie Mckinzie were homeless in Oakland, California before they were invited to live in a Piedmont home that belonged to Terrence McGrath.
abcnews.go.com
As McGrath pointed out, his biggest issue was having to deal with his racist neighbors rather than anything the homeless couple actually did here.
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