So Bin Laden is Dead, what now?

[Spencer Petersen]

I am reminded of that quote from New Vegas when you tell House you killed Caesar. He just casually waves it off and says it wont make a difference in the near future.

 

[hyzaku]

I believe this is when the US govt will execute the plan known as "blame someone else" while doing absolutely nothing different.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Just saw the news, Bin Laden is dead, check any news channel, its true. So, what now, will the US pull out? or what?

We can't pull out, there is a war to finish. But now Obama has a reelection guarantee, Al Qieda has lost its symbol, and New York is alot happier.

I would lose the last hope I have for the US if we reelect him for that. It isn't like he was the one that followed the intelligence and pushed the button that told the drone fire the missile that killed Osama.

Half my hope left the first time Obama was elected.

Though, my mom believes that this actually might come back to bite him, because he has been pushing for less funding for the military, then the military did a great job with this using the funding he wanted to cut.

As much as I'm leaning for Donald Trump to be president, he's most likely going to end up taking votes away from the Republicans if they don't name him as their pick for running.

Donald Trump would be an awesome president. I would cherish hearing about how he gathered all of Obama's moronic and unnecessary "Czars" and said, "You're fired!"

 

[Volkov]

Hm... so does anyone know, why are US armed forces allowed to act on Pakistani territory? I mean, like, legally, how is that classified? (And is Pakistani government OK with this?)

Obviously, a natural answer would be "Fuck Pakistani government, we are stronger so we call the shots", but still, is there an answer to the above question?

 

[Kevlar Eater]

R.I.P., bin Laden. Rest In Pain! Bwahahaha! AH-HAHAHAHA.....!

*ahem*

I guess the FBI and other military intelligence (oxymoron much?) can focus on the rest of their most wanted list. I'm surprised he lasted his remaining days in hiding.

 

[zehydra]

The death of Bin Laden as a leader of Al-Qaida may be insignificant to the operation of the organization, but he was more than just a leader. He was an icon, a symbol. The US has finally found him and killed him, both as a man and as a symbol for Islamic Terror.

I imagine it will be a hefty blow to morale

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Hm... so does anyone know, why are US armed forces allowed to act on Pakistani territory? I mean, like, legally, how is that classified? (And is Pakistani government OK with this?)

Obviously, a natural answer would be "Fuck Pakistani government, we are stronger so we call the shots", but still, is there an answer to the above question?

They weren't acting in Pakistan. It was a drone strike that killed Osama, the Pakistanis can't control what we do with drones since they don't even have to be in their airspace to hit the targets we want to hit.

We got the body out by way of our connections in the Pakistani government.

 

[LetalisK]

Wow. There are some incredibly jaded people on these forums. Even more jaded than I am. It creates an emotion of both fear and sadness within me.

 

[HHKelevra]

They weren't acting in Pakistan. It was a drone strike that killed Osama, the Pakistanis can't control what we do with drones since they don't even have to be in their airspace to hit the targets we want to hit.

We got the body out by way of our connections in the Pakistani government.

Are you just making this stuff up as you go along? Because every single news source I'm looking at (including a statement from THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF is telling me the exact opposite of what you're saying with that UAV nonsense.

"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound, in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama Bin Laden and took custody of his body."

Note the word "Firefight"

 

[SonicKoala]

Good riddance - he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans, and although his death probably won't do much in terms of undermining the organization he was a part of, it's a firm dose of justice that was LONGGGGGG overdue.

And even though I'm not American, the theme to "Team America" was the first thing that popped into my head when I heard the news.

 

[brebo]

AMERICA F*CK YEA. OUT TO SAVE THE MOTHER F*CKN DAY YEA.

 

[harv3034]

As great as this is... we are probably about to get hit with one of the biggest retalitory SHITSTORMS in human history. Mainly because he's DEAD. We probably just made a F***ing Martyr of of a guy with an army of armed militia.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

What now? We get drunk and bang some hookers!

AMERICA!!! FUCK YEAH!!!

 

[Volkov]

Hm... so does anyone know, why are US armed forces allowed to act on Pakistani territory? I mean, like, legally, how is that classified? (And is Pakistani government OK with this?)

Obviously, a natural answer would be "Fuck Pakistani government, we are stronger so we call the shots", but still, is there an answer to the above question?

They weren't acting in Pakistan. It was a drone strike that killed Osama, the Pakistanis can't control what we do with drones since they don't even have to be in their airspace to hit the targets we want to hit.

We got the body out by way of our connections in the Pakistani government.

That hardly answered my question though. First, legally, even if the drone/the facility that launched it is not in Pakistani territory, nevertheless, it is an attack on Pakistani soil. Kinda like, say, a ballistic missile would be if it hit American soil (similar argument can be made - the launcher is not in US airspace/soil). So clearly there are still some international rules governing these. What are they, is what I am trying to figure out?

"Can't control what we do with drones" - well, can't physically, or can't legally? If can't legally - see the argument above.

The "by way of our connections in the Pakistani government" statement is also kind of meaningless. What does that mean exactly? Bribed a few officials? Made an official, open and internationally legal and recognized deal? What does this mean?

 

[Jailbird408]

Hey, speaking of bin Laden, is it true that he hacked into the TV networks to tell every American that they would die on September 11th 2001?
I doubt anyone could have. I'm probably terribly misinformed.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I'm pretty sure the US told Pakistan long ago "Hey, guys, we respect your rights as a nation and all that diplomatic shit, but seriously, if we know where Osama is, we're going in." And I'm pretty sure Pakistan said "Well, okay then, but we're pretty sure he's not here, though. But yea, whatever, go for it."

I may have paraphrased some of that.

 

[octafish]

The worst possible outcome for the U.S. A live detainee to be put on trial, even if it would have been a show trial, would have been better than a Matyr. Even a live fugitive was better than a dead Matyr.

Let me ask you this, did that rebellious Jewish cult stop and disband when their leader was nailed to the cross by Romans?

Assuming that the man nailed to the cross told all his followers to kill everyone that went against them?

Side note: look up words in the dictionary before you decide to use them to look smart, i.e. "matyr", because it matters.

Damn Firefox spell check is making me lazy, you're right Martyr. I hate using Explorer at work. And no the Jewish guy didn't tell his followers to kill everyone who opposed them, they just decided to do that on their own.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Hm... so does anyone know, why are US armed forces allowed to act on Pakistani territory? I mean, like, legally, how is that classified? (And is Pakistani government OK with this?)

Obviously, a natural answer would be "Fuck Pakistani government, we are stronger so we call the shots", but still, is there an answer to the above question?

They weren't acting in Pakistan. It was a drone strike that killed Osama, the Pakistanis can't control what we do with drones since they don't even have to be in their airspace to hit the targets we want to hit.

We got the body out by way of our connections in the Pakistani government.

That hardly answered my question though. First, legally, even if the drone/the facility that launched it is not in Pakistani territory, nevertheless, it is an attack on Pakistani soil. Kinda like, say, a ballistic missile would be if it hit American soil (similar argument can be made - the launcher is not in US airspace/soil). So clearly there are still some international rules governing these. What are they, is what I am trying to figure out?

"Can't control what we do with drones" - well, can't physically, or can't legally? If can't legally - see the argument above.

The "by way of our connections in the Pakistani government" statement is also kind of meaningless. What does that mean exactly? Bribed a few officials? Made an official, open and internationally legal and recognized deal? What does this mean?

Osama was killed in a fire fight by US soldiers

 

[Veylon]

Wow. This has been a hard year for Al Qaeda. They haven't done anything meaningful in a long time, street protesters have stolen their thunder on the Arab Dictator front, they've been having fallings-out, and now this?

Dark times for the organization, and hopefully better ones for everyone else.

 

[megapenguinx]

Even though he is dead, terrorism still exists.

Kind of worried if there is going to be some sort of retaliation.