So, Google Image is racist, apparently.

Dreiko_v1legacy

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I just learned this is a thing and it's the funniest thing ever. It turns out that when you google image search "american inventors" in English, everyone who shows up is mostly unknown minority/African American inventors (also the kid who made a clock that got mistaken for a bomb, who did not actually invent the clock), meanwhile if you type "American inventors" in a non-English language, almost everyone who shows is white and actually a big inventor.


So, yeah, you can test this for yourself, and if you don't know how to type this in any other language here's the Greek term for it: αμερικανοι εφευρετες


Thoughts? Opinions? This is just hilariously bizarre to me lol.
 

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It is weird. What's even weirder is that over half the first page are hits that react to this fact, not actual pages about American inventors. Anyone know the deal?
 

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I thought I might as well learn something today and clicked on George Washington Carver. Who the hell was this guy? Did he actually invent anything? The whole Wikipedia article seems to be about all the things people popularly think he did but didn't actually do. How do you go from coining a couple of food recipes to being christened "the black Da Vinci"?
 

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African American inventors aren't exactly newsworthy here in Finland. The first two hits go to the inventor of the red party cup who passed away last December.
 

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inu-kun said:
It's apperantly connected to the fact that the Google algorithm for some obscure reason adds "african" before "american inventors". At least that's what I hope it does rather than someone actually specifically makes the algorithm do that.
It would make sense. I just typed in US inventors and got a more conventional list of inventors that lived in the US.
 

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Goolaging "European People History" used to produce the following result:



These days, it mostly produces blog posts about the fact it originally did that.

It's... Unusual.
 

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Gethsemani said:
It is weird. What's even weirder is that over half the first page are hits that react to this fact, not actual pages about American inventors. Anyone know the deal?
Yup. First 5 results, in order:

1. http://www.unz.com - 'Alternative Media,' bitching because Oppenheimer didn't make the cut and dragging Bing into it (For some reason, it never occurs to the fellow that maybe the fact two search engines spit out the same 'slant' may be cause to consider that maybe its an algorithm thing, not a race thing)
2. Wikipedia
3. www.vdare.com - 'Anti-Cultural-Marxist' Money Begging Page
4. http://www.american-inventor.com/
5. Trump's Reddit, which I trust I don't have to describe to anybody

What fun.
 

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There are apparently a lot of similar search terms from what I've heard/read.

White couple is another.
 

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Dreiko said:
Thoughts? Opinions? This is just hilariously bizarre to me lol.
As a certain unnameable lady once said: Everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it *all* out!

More seriously, as opposed to this which is almost certainly just an algorithmic quirk (like Google image matching AI believing that dumbbells have arms attached to them) apparently Portland has decided to stop maintaining a list of people with gang affiliations for reasons that can be summed up as the list being racist.
 

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Given the state of Google as a company right now, I'd suspect it's some disgruntled employee who did this to intentionally make Google look as bad on the outside as it is on the inside. Only logical explanation I can think for this.
 

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It might have to do with the fact that "American Inventors" will lead to some African American Inventors, but "African American Inventors" will only hit African American Inventors. So a African Americans will hit twice in a partial string search. Foreigners only care about the really big international inventions so the algorithm won't sweat the local stuff.

Nothing to see here, just a quick of culture.

Now, time to put on my Donald Trump riding a T-Rex wife beater and go drink 40s in the park.
 

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This certainly isn't news to me. If I was more forgiving, I'd chalk it up to an algorithm bug, but given that Google has actually manipulated search results to appease certain groups already, can't say I'd believe anything they might tell me. DuckDuckGo FTW.
 

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Gennadios said:
It might have to do with the fact that "American Inventors" will lead to some African American Inventors, but "African American Inventors" will only hit African American Inventors. So a African Americans will hit twice in a partial string search. Foreigners only care about the really big international inventions so the algorithm won't sweat the local stuff.

Nothing to see here, just a quick of culture.

Now, time to put on my Donald Trump riding a T-Rex wife beater and go drink 40s in the park.
That's the thing though, wouldn't the order of significance of an inventor be proportionally tied to how big an effect they had on the entire world, as opposed to where they were from or what their outward appearance was etc., hence necessitating all search results be roughly the same? Like, I get if you search in French and get American scientists of French descent to be maybe slightly higher on the list than they would be if you searched in English because presumably Frenchmen care about other Frenchmen marginally more by enough of a margin to make that logical but it shouldn't be THIS grave a disparity.

This is so absurdly anti-intellectual that I can't seriously contemplate it without reveling in its absurdity and ceasing to do so almost instantaneously.
 

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Dreiko said:
Gennadios said:
That's the thing though, wouldn't the order of significance of an inventor be proportionally tied to how big an effect they had on the entire world, as opposed to where they were from or what their outward appearance was etc., hence necessitating all search results be roughly the same? Like, I get if you search in French and get American scientists of French descent to be maybe slightly higher on the list than they would be if you searched in English because presumably Frenchmen care about other Frenchmen marginally more by enough of a margin to make that logical but it shouldn't be THIS grave a disparity.

This is so absurdly anti-intellectual that I can't seriously contemplate it without reveling in its absurdity and ceasing to do so almost instantaneously.
The Google algorithm isn't that smart, it's just a partial string search. Their claim to fame is just to make it really efficient. The thing is that current American culture is really identitarian, so searching american-*anything* will produce african-american, or asian-american prefixes. White Americans are more likely to just refer to themselves as the thing that they are, Inventors in this case.

TL:DR, don't blame the algorithm, blame the blogs and websites fixated on this shit that the algorithm finds.
 

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OR... maybe the image search is notoriously inaccurate and has always been.
Gibbagobba said:
DuckDuckGo FTW.
And when I tried it in Croatian, I got a bunch of pictures of Tesla.
 

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Major_Tom said:
Gibbagobba said:
DuckDuckGo FTW.
People don't claim to use DuckDuckGo because it's a better engine, or to avoid bias. They do it to show their fighting the 'Leftist Agenda' and to snub their noses at 'SJWs.'