So... Half Life 3...

[Laughing Man]

Better question, is Valve even working on any IPs new or otherwise? What was the last game that Valve actually released? Portal 2 back in 2011 and since then we haven't heard of anything.

People seem to be shocked that Valve aren't working on HL3 but it's clear that Valve don't really spend time working on any games Portal 2 in 2011 before that L4D2 in 2009, how many games developers can survive on one game every 2 years?

To be honest I couldn't care less about HL3, I do however love Portal and L4D and given the protracted development time on Valve games it really irks me some when you get reports about Valve wasting huge amounts of development time on, augmented reality hardware and fucking Steam for Linux.

Steam for Linux, really no one at Valve stood back and said 'hold on guys aren't we paying you to develop games, make Steam better and not to sit around all day wasting a huge amount of time'. Hell forget actually developing games how about you spend some time on the Windows Steam client, which is still slow, still goes tits up when ever their is any server load, still has bugs and suffers from a horrible effect of crashing routers with mass server calls when you first log in

It's okay folk Valve are working on Source 2... very nice would be even better if they announced some games to go with it, all very well developing an updated game engine but if you ain't got any games to go with it.

 

[ohnoitsabear]

Better question, is Valve even working on any IPs new or otherwise? What was the last game that Valve actually released?

Valve released Counter-Strike: Global Offensive just this August. They've also been putting a lot of resources into DOTA 2, and are probably fairly close (ie: within three months) to releasing it after a ridiculously long beta period. Now, this is small consolation to me, somebody that doesn't care about either of those games and just wants more Half-Life, but it's simply untrue to say that Valve hasn't worked on anything.

 

[VoidWanderer]

As a PC Gamer who never got into Half-Life, I find it bemusing watching people salivating over the idea of Half-Life 3.

While this may piss some of the more dedicated fans, to me HL3 would be as relevant as Duke Nukem Forever.

Sorry guys, but I think you guys want this game WAY too much and make Valve uncomfortable. Unless I get a response from Gabe Newell, I recommend not holding your breath.

 

[Cyrus Hanley]

I expect to see it shipped with Source 2.

Valve is off making the entire world a better place for video games, innovating the shit out of everything and making all of our lives easier, increasing communication and experience, and still people ask for the third installment to something they did in '98.

They're smart cookies, those Valve folks. They see what happened to Duke Nukem Forever. You will never get Half-Life 3 until the IP is sold to someone else.

Your ignorance is showing.

 

[BeerTent]

I'm hoping we'll get to see Corporal Shephard, or if he going be a playable character in the next game.

Considering, I believe, he's owned by Gearbox, this is pretty unlikely. We got lucky with Barny because that was all of the security guard's names in HL1. Gearbox simply expanded on that particular character and enabled his escape at the end of Blue Shift.

According to the Wiki, Shepard was "[praised] for his ability to "adapt and survive against all odds" which "rather reminds [the G-Man] of [himself]." If we do see him again, it'd very likely be as an antagonist.

I'm more interested in the engine. HL3 will likely come during, or shortly after the release of S2. I theorize that HL3 will have an extremely strong focus on Portals, and perhaps another GLADDOS, as, well... The Aperture ship...

 

[Vigormortis]

Whatever

Just ignore people like that. There are people around here that simply love to hate on valve and it's fan-base. They (rarely) acquire a passing knowledge of Valves actual history and fill in the (often enormous) gaps they missed with rhetoric, bullshit, and bile. They absolutely adore angrily making fun of people and attempting to ruin everyones day.

You'll run into those kinds of people often around here. (and everywhere, honestly) Thankfully, not quite as often as you would have a year ago, say, but some are still around. They're usually the ones that start the weekly, "Half-Life/Valve/Steam suck" threads. You know the ones. The threads wherein the OP starts a circle-jerk of hate-filled insults towards Valve and it's fans. After which a few others, much like the OP, will chime in and do the same. In fact, there are a collective of posters that will do that sort of thing for just about anything. Half-Life, Valve, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Halo, etc, etc. You name it, these people will hatefully insult it and anyone who likes it.

Some more tempered posters will add their two cents to the "discussion", often calmly refuting the OPs ludicrous and often hyperbolic claims; usually with real facts. While others will be baited in and respond with equally hateful retorts.

However, the OP (and sometimes others) will just resort to insults and repeated rhetoric to continue their hate train. Some even resort to straw-man arguments.

I've learned it's best to just speak your piece, calmly and tactfully. If they come back with more angry lies, just ignore them. Let them rile in their own bile.

[sub]For the record, when I reference the "OP", I don't mean this threads OP. Just clearing that up.[/sub]

 

[Vigormortis]

Nope, i'm one of those people who knows what he's actually talking about (unlike you, apparantly.)

No, you know maybe half of what you're talking about. And exaggerating the rest.

Allow me to clear a few things up for you:

Portal wasn't made by a "mod team". It was made, in it's entirety, within the walls of Valve. The base concept of portal-based puzzles started with Narbacular Drop, of which was a final exam project of a team of would-be game designers at the DigiPen University. (they called themselves Nuclear Monkey Software)

When their game was show-cased at the university's annual career fair, Robin Walker was so impressed with their talent he asked them to come visit Valve HQ.

After the team gave a short presentation showing their game, Gabe Newell immediately offered the entire team a job. They jumped at the opportunity.

As soon as the team relocated to Washington, they began working with Mark Laidlaw (author of Half-Life) and quite a few other talented people at Valve on conceptualizing Portal.

. . . . . . .

As for Team Fortress 2, it did not begin life as a mod for Source. It actually began life as a Quake mod.

At some point, after Half-Life came out, Valve approached the mod team with the prospect of porting the game over to Gold Src, their Half-Life 1 engine. The team loved the idea and began work on Team Fortress Classic.

During the process, Valve hired the entire team. As soon as the work was done, Robin Walker formed a new team of designers, made up of designers from numerous projects within Valve, and started working on Team Fortress 2.

'Course, TF2 started out as a complex, ultra-realistic-themed military sim. Thankfully, they scrapped that idea early and ended up making the game we know today.

. . . . . . .

I could go on and on, pointing out the misinformation and fallacies people like you like to throw around, but I'm bored of it at this point.

Maybe you should look at the related Wiki pages on the topic(s). You might learn something.

 

[Overusedname]

I've chosen to not play the franchise at all specifically to avoid what you're going through.

I hate to say it, but you've got another 5 years of waiting ahead of you.

I'd just rather not disappoint myself. If someone else buys out the IP maybe you'll get a 3rd installment. I've seen no evidence that's it's going to happen at all.

 

[tthor]

I considered myself lucky for skipping the ridiculously long wait... however, that was 2 years ago. It's a trap, you just got suckered in

3 for me... The wait never stops ;_;

 

[Dead Seerius]

After this wait, it's not going to live up to expectations, even if it does end up being as good as HL2.

Fans don't end up having realistic expectations after such a long wait, some might even assume that they've literally been working on it for all that time.

So I can see why they'd just not want to make it at all, quit while yer ahead and all that.

I could definitely sympathize with Valve if they just flat out said "The expectations currently set for Half-Life 3 are unrealistic. We are not working on it at this moment, and it is unknown when we will begin to."

The problem is that Gabe's always so goddamn enigmatic. He never says if they're working on it or not, if it has an expected release year, or, for that matter, why the hell Valve needs to be so tight-lipped about HL3.

All people want is communication, I suppose.

 

[AlbertoDeSanta]

Much like you, thread maker, I only recently bought the Orange Box. My Opinion? It was smart to only get it recently. I've got friends that bought it close to release day, and one of them isn't happy. The other is a Halo fanboy.

I personally can't wait, especially with such a cliffhanger as this.

 

[AlbertoDeSanta]

After this wait, it's not going to live up to expectations, even if it does end up being as good as HL2.

Fans don't end up having realistic expectations after such a long wait, some might even assume that they've literally been working on it for all that time.

So I can see why they'd just not want to make it at all, quit while yer ahead and all that.

I could definitely sympathize with Valve if they just flat out said "The expectations currently set for Half-Life 3 are unrealistic. We are not working on it at this moment, and it is unknown when we will begin to."

The problem is that Gabe's always so goddamn enigmatic. He never says if they're working on it or not, if it has an expected release year, or, for that matter, why the hell Valve needs to be so tight-lipped about HL3.

All people want is communication, I suppose.

I agree absolutely 100%. Not knowing a release year for a sequel to one of (if not THE) the most innovative games is painful. It was well written and I loved playing it.

 

[Coach Morrison]

Much like you, thread maker, I only recently bought the Orange Box. My Opinion? It was smart to only get it recently. I've got friends that bought it close to release day, and one of them isn't happy. The other is a Halo fanboy.

I personally can't wait, especially with such a cliffhanger as this.

Yea I got the Orange Box shortly after release and it became a joke for me quite a while ago.It's been five damn years now for me. I keep telling myself that I shouldn't expect much when it comes out, but then I remember how half-life 2 compared to other games that came out back then.

 

[TrevHead]

Whatever games Valve are making I would hazard a guess that a sizable portion of their devs are working on making Linux a viable OS for games, given that MS is sticking their size 11s through the PC digi distro door with Win8 and it's app store. Source Engine 2 will probably heavily support it.

Infact it wouldn't surprise me if HL3 won't run on Win8 / 9 and only Linux, just like forcing steam on gamers with HL2.

I'd say that Valve has no choice but to do that, it's the only way to get gamers to install Linux and give devs the middleware they need to make great game on the OS.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Well with the confirmation of a new Source engine in the works I have a feeling Half Life 3 is going to be much like the transition between Half Life 1 and Half Life 2.

So I will wait patiently and let Valve work their magic.

 

[DrBonBon]

Never got around to playing episodes 1 and 2. Now I feel like I'll just wait until they announce the 3rd one.

 

[bafrali]

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Yeah I know but It is really hard to distiguish ignorant from stubborn and I can't ignore people's fallacies because I am a nerd (and possibly Valve fanboy but that is besides the point)

 

[Gazisultima]

Next year it will be six years since we last saw a Half-Life release. The gap between HL1 and HL2 was six years. So...if we're lucky we will see HL3 next year! This is my shameless optimism shining through but Valve haven't let us down so far.

 

[kenu12345]

I'm hoping we'll get to see Corporal Shephard, or if he going be a playable character in the next game.

Just popped in to say this this this this this this this

 

[Kyber]

Oh how it amuses me to see yet again another thread about longing for HL3, i firmly believe that if it's made, it will be completely and utterly shit. It might be a good game, but it won't be the Messiah of all games that people will expect it to be.