So, here's a crimp in your DRM stuff, game developers...

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FalloutJack

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This is not going to be pleasant.

So, there are these arguments over the DRM problem (And trust me, if people are fighting over this, it IS a problem.), but I can now cite one reason for why it's bad that nobody can ever refute.

Yesterday, there was a very large series of storms, including tornadoes. I was talking with my girlfriend when her power cut out. Long story short, she is safe and sound and even the power is back on, but no internet. Everything DRM'd is locked out.

What possible answer could companies have for DRM being the worst thing for a gamer who's lost the internet? Accidents will happen, mother nature will go apeshit bazooka, and people think this is a good idea. Yeah right...
 

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DRM isn't for pirates, it's to put limits on honest customers.
 

FalloutJack

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Matthew94 said:
Yet another reason DRM is shit.

Let's wait for the corporate shills to come in and defend the companies as if they were their own family.

DRM doesn't solve anything and is nearly always cracked pre-launch which shows that it only inconveniences the consumer.
Look, I'm just blowing off a little steam, alright? In my position, you might do the same.
 

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Crono1973 said:
DRM isn't for pirates, it's to put limits on honest customers.
Drm is for their shareholders, so they can say that they are at least trying to prevent piracy.


FalloutJack said:
Matthew94 said:
Yet another reason DRM is shit.

Let's wait for the corporate shills to come in and defend the companies as if they were their own family.

DRM doesn't solve anything and is nearly always cracked pre-launch which shows that it only inconveniences the consumer.
Look, I'm just blowing off a little steam, alright? In my position, you might do the same.

He is agreeing with you..
 

Fieldy409_v1legacy

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I like the drm that only goes once. Or the older school ones that deny you acess to multiplayer if you pirate(though I guess that encourages less purely singleplayer games though.)

What annoys me though is how steam is supposed to work offline, but it rarely does for me. When my internets down and I actually get steam to start in offline mode, im actually too afraid to turn my computer off and lose my games again.
 

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DRM is like a lock on the door. It wouldn't hold against anybody persistent but it will stop random people from going in and robbing your stuff. That is the reason DRM exists - to prevent the easiest way of pirating a game, namely you copying it for your buddy.

However, gaming companies go overboard. If we look at the lock analogy - it's like they put all the best and most modern locks and only they hold the key, so if you want to go in, you will have to call them to unlock the fucking door for you. It wouldn't stop anybody persistent, still, it just requires a bit more persistence on their part.

The point is, that DRM is not used the right way. That is why it's causing problems. Companies try to use it for a completely different purpose - one it's not suitable for. And as a result the consequences fall on the wrong targets.
 

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I just bought Lord of the Rings Extended Edition on BluRay this week. The first screen that pops up as soon as put in the disc "PIRACY WARNING". Fuck you guys. I paid good money for this disc and now I'm forced to look at splash screens that assume I am going to STEAL the item I just purchased. They shit all over their paying customers. Never again... it's back to torrents for me.
 

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Tubez said:
Crono1973 said:
DRM isn't for pirates, it's to put limits on honest customers.
Drm is for their shareholders, so they can say that they are at least trying to prevent piracy.
This. Devs know it doesn't work, publishers know it doesn't work, and consumers know it doesn't work. But share holders are game illiterate. They have heard that piracy is a problem and want to know what the publisher is doing about it. DRM is a better answer than "Nothing.".
 

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DRM isn't for shareholders and investors alone, it's also to discourage or prevent honest customers from doing things like disc swapping, loaning out games to their friends or reselling games.