So i have been watching Sword art online, are there any mmos thats feature permadeath?

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Out of curiosity. I've been watching sword art online. And i kinda love the concept, an online mmo where if you die you die in real life. Basically an online Permadeath game. Roguelike+mmo. Seems like a game that is righr up my ally to be honest. I was wondering if there were any mmos like this. And i came to you knowledgeable escapists to find out.

The only game i know that has a similar premise is Diablo 2 Hardcore mode. I used to love playing this back in classic Diablo 2. Hardcore mode mwant that if you died your character would automatically be deleted. People who managed to get to high levels ( before the expansion ) kind of all knew each other, and would only acknowledge others after the managed to reach a certain level. There was a type of comradery with players of high levels. Trying to climb the lader and reach the top levels. While there was also twink players that would try to PK the lower level guys.

i was wondering if there was any other multiplayer games that was similar?
 

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Well there is Realm of the Mad God, its like an mmorpg bullet hell built around perma death, its fun to kill a few hours with.
 

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The closest thing is the survival game genre, with games like dayz or ARK. Which oddly enough the game of sword art online as stated in the anime, seems much more like then an actual mmo.

If you want an anime that really does the mmo thing then check out Log Horizon, its not quite as fast as sword art but it does a much better job of being in a game with rules, plus it has respawning. Dying permanently in an anime about being stuck in a game completely ignores the most interesting aspect of being stuck in a game.
 

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Most mmo's probably wouldn't feature such a system, because who wants to spend several days worth of time on a character only to have them dissappear upon death? I mean there is the diablo series which does that, but mmos are much more social, and have large consequences for a player dying.

Regardless though, I know there is a whole Wow community revolving around that called The Iron man Challange, where you level to cap level only using base equipment, not using any potions, picking talants, and of course, no dying. Quite fun, but a bit tedious.

I do know realm of the mad God is a rogue like mmo though. Also I agree with the poster above that Log Horizon does the whole "trapped in an mmo" thing a lot better than sao. Sao just seems to have it as a setting rather than actually using it to its fullest potential. Log Horizon actually focuses on the game as if it were an actual living breathing world that just happens to use game mechanics.
 

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path of exile.

it's got everything you need. try it. you will not be disappointed. in fact, you will thank me. i'm surprised it wasn't the first suggestion. they say it's what diablo III should have been. and it's f2p and not p2w. the skill tree is a glorious nightmare. the graphics are appropriate. i have nothing negative to say about this game.
 

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Akytalusia said:
path of exile.

it's got everything you need. try it. you will not be disappointed. in fact, you will thank me. i'm surprised it wasn't the first suggestion. they say it's what diablo III should have been. and it's f2p and not p2w. the skill tree is a glorious nightmare. the graphics are appropriate. i have nothing negative to say about this game.
And on that note, I would suggest Diablo 3's Hardcore Mode


While there have been a lot of complaints about the game in the past, I do feel that over the years, Blizzard are shaping the game into something much better then it was on release as well as Reaper of Souls being the only paid update they ever really did to the game.
I don't know all the details and rules about Hardcore mode, but I do know that it's treated outside of "Normal/Softcore" heroes so in Seasons, you can possibly have contents from one fallen Hardcore hero transfer to another.

Believe me, Diablo 3 was panned for good reason but I feel that Blizzard is starting to win back the crowd there with the free content patches.
 

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There was a free to play mmorpg on steam that heavily advertised the permadeath in it but i believe it became very pay to win from what I read on the discussion page.
 

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not exactly permadeath, but i used to play MMO called Tibia, which is still around though the player count seems to be going down nowadays. In there if you died you would loose 10% of your experience (dropping a few levels) and 10% of your skills. This means that if you are medium level guy you are set back around 1 week of progress and if your a high level one you may be set back as much as a month depending on your playstyle. You also have 25% chance of loosing any of the items you are wearing and you always loose your inventory items. they are dropped, so its likely other player finds and takes them. It used to have the same "high level comradery" you described in OP and the top 50 players would usually know eachother at least on surface level. Pks were also dime a dozen, except in servers that were non-pvp (i mostly played normal pvp servers though). plenty of great stories to tell from those times. though by todays standards it probably feels boring in comparison to other MMOs.
 

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Akytalusia said:
path of exile.

it's got everything you need. try it. you will not be disappointed. in fact, you will thank me. i'm surprised it wasn't the first suggestion. they say it's what diablo III should have been. and it's f2p and not p2w. the skill tree is a glorious nightmare. the graphics are appropriate. i have nothing negative to say about this game.
It doesn't look like that game features permadeath although it does look great indeed.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Akytalusia said:
path of exile.

it's got everything you need. try it. you will not be disappointed. in fact, you will thank me. i'm surprised it wasn't the first suggestion. they say it's what diablo III should have been. and it's f2p and not p2w. the skill tree is a glorious nightmare. the graphics are appropriate. i have nothing negative to say about this game.
It doesn't look like that game features permadeath although it does look great indeed.

It has a Hardcore mode, similar to Diablo 2. However, if you die, instead of being deleted, your character is just removed from Hardcore mode and back into normal, and you can't convert it back. It's essentially hardcore mode, but you get to keep your character to look at in the future.
 

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Broderick said:
Regardless though, I know there is a whole Wow community revolving around that called The Iron man Challange, where you level to cap level only using base equipment, not using any potions, picking talants, and of course, no dying. Quite fun, but a bit tedious.
.........that sounds like a group of people who have officially gone mad with boredom and are desperately trying to find any excuse they can to continue playing WoW. :p
 

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Unfortunately killing your character permanently would go against the current subscription or P2W business model that is so prevalent today. You would have to venture to a fan game or a free mmo that doesn't even do paid stuff for that, in which case I say there is close to nothing. Maybe Project Zomboid where your character does die, but that's less of an MMO and more of a survival game on a server.

But you have a strong idea there, maybe character slots like in SWTOR that are deleted when you die? Sounds like fun, in a Dark Souls kind of way.