So i just noticed SOPA got passed.....

[fornever1]

I just noticed today that SOPA was passed in my country......a year ago. I haven't noticed any differences to what I can and can't watch or what sites I can go on. From the way people(like Jim sterling) described it I thought i wouldn't be able to look up jack. but nothing has changed. I was even able to go onto to piratebay. If this is what SOPA is, is it really that bad?

 

[fornever1]

*facepalm* i posted this in the wrong section didn't i?

 

[DoPo]

Yes, indeed you did. Also, from the way you don't name your country and from the way you explicitly say "SOPA" still, and from the way this looks and sounds like a flamebite, and because you registered today only to bring us this news, I am going to assume that your post is here to incite flames. Also relevant - dat avatar.

If your goal is to actually discuss anything, I'd suggest a more clear and neutral language, as well as less preemptive attacks and conclusions on in the opening post.

 

[RikuoAmero]

More to the point, SOPA was a US bill. To be more precise, if what you're saying is true, you'd want your country's version of SOPA, which would be under a different name and have a few small differences in details.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

More to the point, SOPA was a US bill. To be more precise, if what you're saying is true, you'd want your country's version of SOPA, which would be under a different name and have a few small differences in details.

Maybe he's from the country of future America?

The issue with SOPA was... I dunno, I've kind of forgotten now, I think it was basically that the government would force the internet service providers (Whatever company you pay for your internet connection) to monitor everyone's activity and enforce anti-piracy and similar copyright laws on people uploading or downloading illegal material (the bill was written with a focus on indecent images of children and criminal activity, but included pirated games, music, movies, bears etc.)

The punishment for getting caught was 3 or 5 strikes (as well as criminal charges if necessary) and after that a huge fine and either a lifetime ban from the internet or vastly reduced access and internet speed.

If your country has that system in place then you have the equivalent of SOPA. If not, then you don't.

*If I got any of that wrong people can feel free to correct me*

 

[DoPo]

*If I got any of that wrong people can feel free to correct me*

I think you're thinking of that agreement or something from the ISPs where they were supposed to monitor users. SOPA targets websites directly. And more like it gave the IP holders incredible large power due to not good wording. And it's not even matter of "power corrupts" - the bill pretty much assured the power would be misused. Combine with that the fact that it treats "teh internetz" as being powered by magic, unicorn tears and eyes of a toad ritually sacrificed at midnight showing lack of understanding or concern how it actually works (it's frog eyes and they must be obtained under the new moon, sheesh). Oh, and it not only didn't solve any of the problems it was supposed to solve, it created new ones.

All in all it's reminiscent of this


Only, you know, if those guys decided to write a bill that is supposed to have far reaching consequences.

 

[fornever1]

Yes, indeed you did. Also, from the way you don't name your country and from the way you explicitly say "SOPA" still, and from the way this looks and sounds like a flamebite, and because you registered today only to bring us this news, I am going to assume that your post is here to incite flames. Also relevant - dat avatar.

If your goal is to actually discuss anything, I'd suggest a more clear and neutral language, as well as less preemptive attacks and conclusions on in the opening post.

sorry if i came across as if i was launching preemptive attacks. I had just read the posting rule's and when it said "make a discussion" I was concerned that if i didn't give enough to discuss or talk about I might get in trouble. As for only joining to bring you this news, I had actually planned to join for awhile but never got around to it. however, when i heard about SOPA being law I thought this would be something that people here might know about. As for not stating my country's name, on many sites i am/was apart of I received a lot of abuse because of my nationality, which is Irish.

Anyway, to the extent of my knowledge the law is still refereed to as SOPA or the "Irish SOPA". on the wiki page for SOPA it said that ireland may soon have a law like SOPA made into law. That wiki page was very out of date as it was made into law last year, without even being passed through government. What i would like to know is how does this effect me?

 

[fornever1]

also I would like to point out that I did have a much more well detailed and well structured opening statement but this site decided to crash when i hit post and i really didn't have it in me to write it out all again, hence the shortened version.

 

[Smooth Operator]

What SOPA allows is for companies to circumvent legal systems and remove/block any site they claim is using copyright material(without legal process)... i.e. plain corporate censorship, in any civilized country this is illegal.
And the first examples of this sort of system was engaged by Google who is in the process of blacklisting sites other corporations are demanding removed (without legal process), also Youtube allowing Sega to copyright claim all content even mentioning Shining Force (most claims illegal yet Sega suffered no legal action against them), most recently Nintendo taking money from all video creators using more then 10min footage of Nintendo games (this was simply decided by Google again without legal grounds).

But even with all that I know there is a huge percentage of people who really fancy the idea of a police state, be it through government or corporate means.