I argue that Zack is not really the problem but David Goyer who screenwrote this and the Editor (David Brenner) doing his job badly.
And honestly I really did not think Superman "kills" in this movies. Other then Doomsday he "kills" only one "Terrorist" leader which they don't even show the act being done at all. I did not see the guys dead body with Superman standing above him.
Batman was the one doing most of the killing here. He even admits it himself "we're criminals Alfred"[/quote]
I can get on board with that. As I said, I feel that half the story was left on the cutting room floor. That deleted scenet that they just released with Luthor in the pool just before he gets arrested tells more about his characters motivations in 40 seconds then they managed to accomplish in 150 minutes. I Still think that Zach Snyder makes terrible movies though. I will admit that 300 was a great flick, but the rest of his stuff is mostly pure schlock.
This movie didn't show Superman "killing" very many people, but perhaps my allusion was towards Man of Steel where he brazenly destroys downtown Metropolis/Smallville. That was more of Snyder trying to emulate Michael Bay with his explosions and fight scenes in a blatent attempt to confuse special effects with storytelling.
Yeah, Batman piles up the K/D ratio here, but I see where they were going with his character. It is a lot easier to not kill someone in a comic book/cartoon then it is in a movie. Going for the darker version is all well and good, but perhaps it is just a sign of things to come where it is always darkest before the dawn?
As I said, I have hopes for this series to improve and become true competition to Marvel. I just don't think Snyder is the right man for the job, and I am on board with you in saying that Goyer and Brenner aren't either.
And honestly I really did not think Superman "kills" in this movies. Other then Doomsday he "kills" only one "Terrorist" leader which they don't even show the act being done at all. I did not see the guys dead body with Superman standing above him.
Batman was the one doing most of the killing here. He even admits it himself "we're criminals Alfred"[/quote]
I can get on board with that. As I said, I feel that half the story was left on the cutting room floor. That deleted scenet that they just released with Luthor in the pool just before he gets arrested tells more about his characters motivations in 40 seconds then they managed to accomplish in 150 minutes. I Still think that Zach Snyder makes terrible movies though. I will admit that 300 was a great flick, but the rest of his stuff is mostly pure schlock.
This movie didn't show Superman "killing" very many people, but perhaps my allusion was towards Man of Steel where he brazenly destroys downtown Metropolis/Smallville. That was more of Snyder trying to emulate Michael Bay with his explosions and fight scenes in a blatent attempt to confuse special effects with storytelling.
Yeah, Batman piles up the K/D ratio here, but I see where they were going with his character. It is a lot easier to not kill someone in a comic book/cartoon then it is in a movie. Going for the darker version is all well and good, but perhaps it is just a sign of things to come where it is always darkest before the dawn?
As I said, I have hopes for this series to improve and become true competition to Marvel. I just don't think Snyder is the right man for the job, and I am on board with you in saying that Goyer and Brenner aren't either.
