Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.tippy2k2 said:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community
Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/171046-New-game-releases-for-the-week-of-December-17-2017] if anyone was wondering).
Because this site was tainted and became damaged goods after Gamergate. That's why.HK_01 said:Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.tippy2k2 said:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community
Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/171046-New-game-releases-for-the-week-of-December-17-2017] if anyone was wondering).
Any reason why you guys lost access? Was it something a disgruntled Frappe did while he was burning bridges and deleting everything? Or is it something Defy did?tippy2k2 said:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community
Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/171046-New-game-releases-for-the-week-of-December-17-2017] if anyone was wondering).
My take is that GamerGate hit the Escapist pretty hard, in that the Escapist was one of the few websites that didn't disavow GG entirely. In the wake of GG the Escapist lost several of its' high profile content producers (whether it was because of GG is anyone's guess). To compensate the Escapist tried to ride that goodwill with the GamerGate supporters by hiring several new contributors that were vocal GG supporters and attempted to broaden the Escapist from just gaming into everything gaming related including Cosplay and Comics. These new contributors did not, apparently, get enough traffic and the diversification plan fell through, so the Escapist slowly bled out over the course of 2015-2017.HK_01 said:Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.
Plus Yahtzee what's totes a GGer. Just ask Sargon.Gethsemani said:My take is that GamerGate hit the Escapist pretty hard, in that the Escapist was one of the few websites that didn't disavow GG entirely. In the wake of GG the Escapist lost several of its' high profile content producers (whether it was because of GG is anyone's guess). To compensate the Escapist tried to ride that goodwill with the GamerGate supporters by hiring several new contributors that were vocal GG supporters and attempted to broaden the Escapist from just gaming into everything gaming related including Cosplay and Comics. These new contributors did not, apparently, get enough traffic and the diversification plan fell through, so the Escapist slowly bled out over the course of 2015-2017.HK_01 said:Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.
And here we are today. Not so much because a conscious decision was made to pull the plug, but because many small decisions led to ever worse situations for the Escapist.
Further to this, there is a general change in the way the public consumes geek culture; 10 years ago, youtube was kind of new, had little quality control, and could take you a while to find someone good, so you could use video aggregator sites like The Escapist or Channel Awesome to do that work for you. Unfortunately, besides the quality control issues (both sites bloated with some really terrible series), patreon and the incremental development of youtube has made it much easier for video creators to sustain themselves; they don't need a big website to find them an audience or pay them. Meanwhile, consumers would rather just go to their favourite youtuber's channel than to a website where they have to brush past all the content they don't care about. The Escapist put a lot of stock in videos, and unfortunately that's the one thing that's moved on. Other gaming sites tend to focus on articles or reviews more, which still benefit from being tied to a big recognisable brand, and they've faired a little better.Gethsemani said:My take is that GamerGate hit the Escapist pretty hard, in that the Escapist was one of the few websites that didn't disavow GG entirely. In the wake of GG the Escapist lost several of its' high profile content producers (whether it was because of GG is anyone's guess). To compensate the Escapist tried to ride that goodwill with the GamerGate supporters by hiring several new contributors that were vocal GG supporters and attempted to broaden the Escapist from just gaming into everything gaming related including Cosplay and Comics. These new contributors did not, apparently, get enough traffic and the diversification plan fell through, so the Escapist slowly bled out over the course of 2015-2017.HK_01 said:Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.
And here we are today. Not so much because a conscious decision was made to pull the plug, but because many small decisions led to ever worse situations for the Escapist.
Because DEFY is a bag full of smelly butts?IceForce said:Any reason why you guys lost access? Was it something a disgruntled Frappe did while he was burning bridges and deleting everything? Or is it something Defy did?tippy2k2 said:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community
Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/171046-New-game-releases-for-the-week-of-December-17-2017] if anyone was wondering).
What is there to say?Thaluikhain said:Oddly, hadn't had a thread about the Escapist dying for a bit. Maybe those are dying off as well.
Though to be honest there were some behind the scenes issues going on with the site even before Gamergate became a hot button topic to discuss. I mean the whole Extra Credits scandal and a bunch of writers and contributors not getting paid comes to mind.IceForce said:Because this site was tainted and became damaged goods after Gamergate. That's why.HK_01 said:Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.tippy2k2 said:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community
Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/171046-New-game-releases-for-the-week-of-December-17-2017] if anyone was wondering).
What's stopping ya from posting those in the Gaming Discussion thread? I missed those threads :ctippy2k2 said:Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/171046-New-game-releases-for-the-week-of-December-17-2017] if anyone was wondering).