Personally I love it, and the critics all love it but it seems that most of the post i'm reading about it on forums about it are negative? Do people like this movie or not?This reaction deeply confuses me.
So Skyfall, what's the general opinion on it so far
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Thought it was fricking awesome. Good story, great bad guy and a good ending. It certainly made up for the badness that Quantum of Solace, I do however disagree with Movie Bob because Skyfall does not make QOS better by trilogy association.
Loved it to bits, had the perfect balance between grit and traditional Bond silliness, and the story was great. I was even moved a little when Bond started to cry at the end.
I know it's small, but I thought the line 'How do you know it's my first time?" from Bond to Silva was a subtle nod to this being the second time he has been in a compromising position in a chair.VictorSaffron said:
I know some critics are saying it's possibly the best Bond movie out of all of them, which is a ballsy thing to say considering how many Connery fans there are. I haven't seen it yet, but I may get to see it tomorrow (if my friends don't vote in favor of Wreck-it Ralph).
I thought it was wonderful. It wasn't my favorite, but it was great. I enjoyed the subtle throwbacks to older Bond movies and just the overall general flow of the film. It tied everything up quite nicely at the end.
Was quantum of solace really that bad? I've never watched it, sorta forgot to, but I watched skyfall and casino royale. Both versions in fact- the old casino royale as well. It was a pretty wierd film as far as I remember. Anyone else watched it?Laughing Man said:
OT: Skyfall, in my opinion, was great. I loved it, despite not expecting much from it. The villan was cool, the story was pretty good, and it shocked me with how well it did the characters, especially M and Bond, who as far as I'm aware almost never got characterised in the older films.
Some asshole on Reddit made an account where his username is a spoiler for Skyfall -.-Sutter Cane said:
So now when I go to see it...I'll know...
I thought Skyfall was one of the best James Bond movies so far. There was way more emotion in this movie and I liked the theme of MI6 and Bond possibly being irrelevant in this technology driven world. Q saying: "I bet I could do more damage with my laptop in one morning than you could with your gun in an entire year" really hammers this point home. I also liked the mother and son relationship Bond and M had during this movie.
My only complaint is with how quickly they wrapped everything up but that's a fairly minor complaint.
My only complaint is with how quickly they wrapped everything up but that's a fairly minor complaint.
By far the best of Craig's Bond films and one of the best films of 2012. Gorgeous cinematography and fight choreography, excellent writing, and incredible acting made it one of the finest film experiences I've had the pleasure of enjoying in a long time.
I've seen a lot of negative reactions to the film on the IMDB though. Most of the complaints regard the film not being perfectly realistic, aka Bond surviving the opening scene. It's like the backlash regarding The Dark Knight Rises.
Interestingly enough, despite holding an 8.1 and being in the top 250, the top reviews for Skyfall on the IMDB are overwhelmingly negative. There is something fishy about it though, as a large amount of these reviewers have only reviewed Skyfall and it is questionable that a popular movie like Skyfall would have accumulated that many votes for the negative reviews.
I've seen a lot of negative reactions to the film on the IMDB though. Most of the complaints regard the film not being perfectly realistic, aka Bond surviving the opening scene. It's like the backlash regarding The Dark Knight Rises.
Interestingly enough, despite holding an 8.1 and being in the top 250, the top reviews for Skyfall on the IMDB are overwhelmingly negative. There is something fishy about it though, as a large amount of these reviewers have only reviewed Skyfall and it is questionable that a popular movie like Skyfall would have accumulated that many votes for the negative reviews.
It was terrible. Extremely boring and forgettable. There is literally only one thing I remember from that movie, and that is a building in the desert.Fractral said:
Regarding the topic, I thought the movie was brilliant. Great action movie, clever, and very Bond-like. Without a doubt one of the best movies of 2012.
Man, sometimes I really feel as though I'm the only one who like Quantum of Solace...
On the subject of Skyfall, though, I can safely say that it's the best Craig Bong so far. Hell, it's competing with Goldfinger as best Bond movie ever in my books, and that's saying something. Very fun, very exciting, good bad guy, great story, surprisingly emotional.
On the subject of Skyfall, though, I can safely say that it's the best Craig Bong so far. Hell, it's competing with Goldfinger as best Bond movie ever in my books, and that's saying something. Very fun, very exciting, good bad guy, great story, surprisingly emotional.
The second Ralph Fiennes walked on screen, I wanted him to be the new M. I also hoped we had a few movies to get used to him before Dame Judi Dench retired. This was equal parts sad and happy for me because while she got an amazing sendoff, I really loved her far more hands-on approach to being M, and I wasn't ready for that to end yet. Also, the new Q is not anywhere near as cool as the original or as funny as John Cleese. I don't like him. I mean shit, who DIDN'T see the worm coming when they started randomly opening Silva's files? They opened his laptop and started decrypting and I literally said outloud, before I could stop myself, "Watch out for the virus," not thinking about the possibility of a worm, but still, when things started opening on their own, I was so vindicated.
That said, Ralph Fiennes as M, Daniel Craig as Bond, the next movie is going to be so pure over-the-top awesome that I can't wait for it. Skyfall may even be my favorite Bond yet, as it certainly was "Bond back doing what he does best," as the ads proclaimed. Car chases, gun fights, saving the day, Bond was in top form, and certainly was fun, even if their was only the one token sex-slave as a Bond-girl.
No Spoilers: I loved it!
That said, Ralph Fiennes as M, Daniel Craig as Bond, the next movie is going to be so pure over-the-top awesome that I can't wait for it. Skyfall may even be my favorite Bond yet, as it certainly was "Bond back doing what he does best," as the ads proclaimed. Car chases, gun fights, saving the day, Bond was in top form, and certainly was fun, even if their was only the one token sex-slave as a Bond-girl.
No Spoilers: I loved it!
I was disappointed with Skyfall.
It's not a bad movie, just disappointed. I can't really explain why yet. I just saw it today, so I still need some time to process it.
I did notice a few mistakes and convenient plot twists.
I liked Casino Royale more.
It's not a bad movie, just disappointed. I can't really explain why yet. I just saw it today, so I still need some time to process it.
I did notice a few mistakes and convenient plot twists.
CONVENIENCE: The fact the killer from the opening scene used an unique and expensive bullet that could be traced back to him is lame as well as the agency just happens to know his whereabouts.
MISTAKE: The same killer shoot the security guard and moved him up the escalator and yet there is no blood trail but there is a bloody pool next to the body.
MISTAKE: Bond meets Q for the first time in the National Museum where they have a little confidential chat. There are about 5 camera's in that room. Not the best place to have a confidential chat.
CONVENIENCE: Bond is running through the abandoned part of the London underground, yet he is still has perfect reception on this headset.
ALSO: Hacking isn't suppose to be that graphical; it's unrealistic. And Q didn't see that trap coming? I saw it coming miles away.
MISTAKE: The same killer shoot the security guard and moved him up the escalator and yet there is no blood trail but there is a bloody pool next to the body.
MISTAKE: Bond meets Q for the first time in the National Museum where they have a little confidential chat. There are about 5 camera's in that room. Not the best place to have a confidential chat.
CONVENIENCE: Bond is running through the abandoned part of the London underground, yet he is still has perfect reception on this headset.
ALSO: Hacking isn't suppose to be that graphical; it's unrealistic. And Q didn't see that trap coming? I saw it coming miles away.
I liked Casino Royale more.
Freakin' loved it, though to be fair, I'm not the biggest Bond fan around, so I viewed it as just an action flick (OK, maybe not 'just an action flick').Sutter Cane said:
The references were fun, the old tech and the relative sparsity of the new tech made it more about the characters which was good, the banter was brilliant, the action was well spaced out, Javier Bardem's performance was priceless, I'll say again that Judi Dench = best Bond girl EVAR!! and some of the one-liners were awesome ('Welcome to Scotland!'), the big reveal (i.e. Skyfall) had quite an impact with me, the ending was a punch to the gut, and Ralph Fiennes throughout all his scenes = WIN!
However, I did feel it was a little let down by Ben Whishaw, though a good actor, wasn't really that appropriate for the role IMO. That and the relationship between Moneypenny and Bond had no real spark, unfortunately. I wasn't all that bothered about how Silva was killed, though I know some were disappointed at the somewhat anti-climactic showdown.
So, all in all, excellent film, whether as a Bond film or in its own right.
Oh come on, it really wasn't that subtle at all. Old dog, new tricks?VictorSaffron said:
Apart from that though, I agree with you completely. I thought Casino Royale was amazing, but Skyfall might actually take the cake for best Craig film now. The plot is ok, if a little holey... why exactly would MI6 have a file containing all of that data, surely it would be separated into individual files for each agent for better security, and surely certain information wouldn't even be included in those; it would be kept only in physical format or on an internet-disabled computer in an MI6 location.
Ignoring those little foibles, the plot is good, the dialogue is amusing, the action is suitably gritty and well-cut, the spectacle is spectacular. M and Bond get some much needed characterisation. There's not a lot to complain about. It's just a good bond film, full stop.
Spade Lead said:
You missed my remark about the missing blood trail 
Anyhow...
Silva wanted to be captured, yes. But the killer didn't want to be captured. I am not convinced this was a deliberate decision by Silva. The story flows towards Silva. But the killer was unpredictable and I don't believe Silva predicted his wife/GF would betray him like that. Thus too much convenience.
Yes, the cameras can be controlled (there are also security guards). But why go through so much trouble? It doesn't make sense. The museum doesn't hold anything special. They could have easily met somewhere without camera's and guards.
As for the tech... submarines are a little bigger than a headset. That little GPS beacon device, I can accept. But a headset that goes through concrete, underground and with a perfect reception, that's futuristic. Well, this is less of an issue compared to the other points. It's still convenience though.
Anyhow...Silva wanted to be captured, yes. But the killer didn't want to be captured. I am not convinced this was a deliberate decision by Silva. The story flows towards Silva. But the killer was unpredictable and I don't believe Silva predicted his wife/GF would betray him like that. Thus too much convenience.
Yes, the cameras can be controlled (there are also security guards). But why go through so much trouble? It doesn't make sense. The museum doesn't hold anything special. They could have easily met somewhere without camera's and guards.
As for the tech... submarines are a little bigger than a headset. That little GPS beacon device, I can accept. But a headset that goes through concrete, underground and with a perfect reception, that's futuristic. Well, this is less of an issue compared to the other points. It's still convenience though.
EDIT:
Come to think of it, the killer might have been lured into a trap by Silva, if the target the killer shot (in Shanghai) was a lure, a dummy. I suppose that's possible. That still doesn't explain everything. But the story would at least make a little bit more sense then.