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I just want Link that isn't shit tier and working online.
Sure, Link can be good and I can beat player who use Metaknight with him, but that doesn't change the fact that he is shit tier.
Link requires too much skill for what he offers.
Sure, Link can be good and I can beat player who use Metaknight with him, but that doesn't change the fact that he is shit tier.
Link requires too much skill for what he offers.
I'd like Lyn (Green-haired girl from Fire Emblem 7) to be promoted from Assist Trophy to on the roster, but it's probably not going to happen.
Either Chrom or Masked Marth from Awakening will probably replace Ike (Marth isn't going anywhere, being the O.G. Lord of the series, but might speak English since Shadow Dragon was internationally released), and I'm okay with that.
I get that Brawl slowed down Samus so Zero-Suit Samus could be significantly faster without being too fast, and I'd be okay with losing ZSS if it meant Samus would be useable again, but if ZSS stays, I want her to be selectable the same way Sheik and the G1 Starter Pokemon were.
Seriously, how the Hell were we supposed to figure out "Hold down shield when hitting start" on our own? It's not in the manual... At least not my manual...
And I want the Ice Climbers out.
Either Chrom or Masked Marth from Awakening will probably replace Ike (Marth isn't going anywhere, being the O.G. Lord of the series, but might speak English since Shadow Dragon was internationally released), and I'm okay with that.
I get that Brawl slowed down Samus so Zero-Suit Samus could be significantly faster without being too fast, and I'd be okay with losing ZSS if it meant Samus would be useable again, but if ZSS stays, I want her to be selectable the same way Sheik and the G1 Starter Pokemon were.
Seriously, how the Hell were we supposed to figure out "Hold down shield when hitting start" on our own? It's not in the manual... At least not my manual...
And I want the Ice Climbers out.
Z of the Na said:
Captcha:which one is biggest?
You mean the possibilities we lost?,i have been wondering that too captcha
From my time thus far with the Wii U the online will be better because the only problems I've had are because my wifi is shockingly bad and the stupid thing doesn't have an ethernet socketYopaz said:
Tingle...Sould1n said:
Tingle?...
Tingle!??!@!
Not before they add in Vaati I hope D: or Tetra/Zelda. Yeah Toon Link could do with being different, he does handle differently but with the same moves if thats any consolation.
Hell I'd rather Postman than Tingle.
Hey, thanks for quoting me, it's always nice to see my comments being spotted. Even if you only quoted one word... I knew this suggestion wasn't going to go down well.SkarKrow said:
Anyway, my point about Tingle is true, out of all possible Legend of Zelda characters that could appear in the next Super Smash Bros, he is the most deserving of that spot. He is one of the most recurring Legend of Zelda characters and at that, has been the main playable character in three different games... admittedly, I don't believe any of these came to the USA, but they were released in Japan and Europe. He was also playable in Wind Waker via the Tingle Tuner. How many other Legend of Zelda characters can cite that they were playable?
As for his use as a Balloon Fight styled character, one of his three games was a Japan only Balloon Fight update, starring Tingle as the main character. He has appearances and a great many interesting possibilities for a fighting style. I know he is not well liked, but think about it on the basis of which characters deserve to be in the game, and Tingle ranks higher than, well, higher than a great majority of suggested characters for Super Smash Bros.
My main issue with the online in Brawl was that they didn't let us customize the matches. I prefer to play with stock rather than timed, but it's good to hear that the online is more stable. I haven't really had the chance to test it yet, but at least it seems stable from my experiences.SkarKrow said:From my time thus far with the Wii U the online will be better because the only problems I've had are because my wifi is shockingly bad and the stupid thing doesn't have an ethernet socketYopaz said:
I wasn't really mad about you suggesting Tingle at all, I'm aware he has a following and a few games of his own and while I may not like him he'd be a perfectly reasonable addition to the roster.Sould1n said:
It was more for comedic effect, though I would be geuinely irritated if Tingle were playable but not Vaati.
I got a noticable bit of lag in Tekken (I know I suck, but I don't suck enough to die in singular combos when I BLOCKED HALF OF IT), but like I said my wifi isn't reliable and I wish it had an ethernet port.Yopaz said:My main issue with the online in Brawl was that they didn't let us customize the matches. I prefer to play with stock rather than timed, but it's good to hear that the online is more stable. I haven't really had the chance to test it yet, but at least it seems stable from my experiences.SkarKrow said:From my time thus far with the Wii U the online will be better because the only problems I've had are because my wifi is shockingly bad and the stupid thing doesn't have an ethernet socketYopaz said:
I can empathise with preferring stock matches. My strategy is generally to try prey on on player and minimise my own damage, then by the time I've wiped out one guy, the others are on 1 life and 70%, while I remain with 2 at 20% or so...
I had a feeling you weren?t really mad, your post was presented in a light-hearted way, but just to be sure I explained myself again. It's hard to tell when typing on the internet.SkarKrow said:
I find Vaati to be another really good choice, and while I think more interesting things could be done with Tingle in terms of play-style, I'd love to see Vaati in the game and I do feel he is quite worthy of a spot. He?s probably only a little after Tingle, and only because of the lack of ever being a playable character.
When it comes to Legend of Zelda suggested characters the only ones I get annoyed at are when they suggest one time characters such as Minda or Ghirahim. Neat characters as they may be, they don't really deserve a spot as it were.
Nah I try not to get mad at the internet and I never post when emotionally elevated in a negative way. If I do my anger tends to come across in that bitterly calm and dry way. =]Sould1n said:
Vaati would add to the villain count and I just think he's cool, especially his Minish Cap iteration. I adore Minish Cap, it's easily my favourite Zelda game, though I'm not a huge series fan, I dislike the NES titles, and I'm no great lover of the N64 titles either.
I really like Link to the Past a lot but it's frigging hard, I like Twilight Princess but it drags on a bit and hits me with walls of unvoiced text, Skyward Sword is purty but I'm not far enough to have a full opinion on it that I can justify, Wind Waker is fantastic, etc.
Yeah I don't like Ghirahim, whenever he's showed up so far in SS he seems a bit rapey.
Marth was featured in the very first Fire Emblem game... he also had two appearances as the main character of a Fire Emblem, as the third Fire Emblem game was a sequel to the first Fire Emblem game.A Smooth Criminal said:
Roy on the other hand hadn't even appeared in a game when Super Smash Bros Melee came out. Roy's inclusion into Super Smash Bros was done to market the upcoming Fire Emblem game. Something I personally disagree with, and part of the reason why I was never saddened by Roy's removal, he was in the game as nothing more than a marketing ploy.
As for why Eliwood hasn't appeared in the games... well both his game appearances (if I'm correct were March 2002 and April 2003) were after Melee which is the reason he wasn't included in that game. As for Brawl, well I'm not sure if he was playable in one of those Fire Emblem games, while Ike, along with being more recent, also boasted a two games main character role and both English translated ports. I see your point though; however I still argue that Tingle is more worthy of a spot than most people tend to think.
I wonder what character they could announce that would cause as much fucking hype and mayhem as Snake and Sonic in brawl? Those two are seen as Sony and Sega's mascots respectively, yet they were in one of Nintendo's big franchises! If Master Chief were to be announced I'm pretty sure the entire internet would explode. Banjo and Kazooie would also cause widespread joy-attacks, and I'm sure there's a few others I can't think of.
Other than that, I'm pretty much certain Bayonetta will be in it. They had Zero Suit Samus, so I'm pretty sure if they don't do too much they'll be able to put her in a Teen rated game.
Other than that, I'm pretty much certain Bayonetta will be in it. They had Zero Suit Samus, so I'm pretty sure if they don't do too much they'll be able to put her in a Teen rated game.
I want Solid Snake to come back.
Knuckles wouldn't hurt either.
More stages would be great.
Another storyline like the Subspace Emissary would be the tits.
Knuckles wouldn't hurt either.
More stages would be great.
Another storyline like the Subspace Emissary would be the tits.
My point about Tingle being included was as a replacement for Toon Link/Young Link, not as a matter of including five playable Legend of Zelda characters. The only series I see possibly having five characters representing them in the next Super Smash Bros would be Mario or Pokémon, though I personally would prefer if they focused on bringing representatives for other Nintendo series such as Little Mac to represent Punch Out or Starfy to represent the Stary series.A Smooth Criminal said:
Thanks for that bit of info regarding Eliwood.
I want them to finish it for one, with most of the inspiration coming from Melee. Yeah, you remember
I like the idea of the story mode, but I really don't want it to load so much again, and to repeat some levels like it did in Brawl. I was thrilled when I saw it layed out like the stage selection screen from Mario Bros. 3. Well, I wish it looked as interesting as the Mario Brothers 3 map. Seriously, the points just went all over the place.
A Bigger map editor because I love map editing, and just more of every thing else, though I'm not expecting it.
A really functional online system would be beautiful. I have a great internet connection but for some reason Brawl still did lagg often.
As for characters, I agree with Megaman and Knuckles. I'd also like to see Marina from Mischief Makers make an appearance, because Mischief Makers was a awesome game. It's one of those hidden gems. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischief_Makers
I like the idea of the story mode, but I really don't want it to load so much again, and to repeat some levels like it did in Brawl. I was thrilled when I saw it layed out like the stage selection screen from Mario Bros. 3. Well, I wish it looked as interesting as the Mario Brothers 3 map. Seriously, the points just went all over the place.
A Bigger map editor because I love map editing, and just more of every thing else, though I'm not expecting it.
A really functional online system would be beautiful. I have a great internet connection but for some reason Brawl still did lagg often.
As for characters, I agree with Megaman and Knuckles. I'd also like to see Marina from Mischief Makers make an appearance, because Mischief Makers was a awesome game. It's one of those hidden gems. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischief_Makers
Now then, moving onto listing down features I would like to see. I guess the first thing I should clarify is the differences between the 3DS and Wii U version. I?m okay with the possibility of there being a great many differences between the versions, particularly in what experiences they will be offering. I however draw the line at their being differences between the characters. All of the characters should be available on both versions and should play the exact same. I would also like to extend this factor to stages with possible exception to cosmetic differences (for instance, have a Wii U version stage styled around Battalion Wars and a 3DS stage styled around the latest, darker Advance Wars but have the stages designed the exact same, all the same events happen, they just look different), but am mostly okay if they do have a couple of stages available only on the different versions. Moving on then, features I would like to see:
* A new story mode - I loved Brawl's story mode (I?m not sure why I?m seeing so many people complain about it). The style reminded me of Kirby's Fun Pack (Super Star), the story was simple but enjoyable, and it provided a long experience of lovely playtime. I?d love to see another one of these, preferably with the areas and enemies being taken from the various Nintendo series like Melee's Adventure Mode. One real nifty feature to think about is that using the Wii U game pads, you?d be able to separate your two characters and explore different directions.
I do not expect this to be the same for the 3DS though, if they are aiming to provide a more personal, single player experience. I think a more RPG focused story mode, you choose a character, go through various events and battles, encounter choices that change your journey, and collect stickers to upgrade your character. In a way, a more advanced version of the Street Quest for the 3DS system, although inspiration for this for me came from Soul Calibur II?s Weapon Master Mode.
* An improved Stage Editor - I loved the original stage editor but would love to see it even better. More backgrounds, the ability to make areas off screen (like Sonic?s Green Hill stage, there is land beyond the visible screen point), to connect the stage to the ground, and the ability to add lava or water. The ability to colour in your various set pieces would also be a nice feature.
* Arcade Endings for Classic Mode - As in cut-scenes for Classic Mode, not just a quick slideshow and picture. I would love to see Nintendo presenting quick little presentations of how some of the characters would interact, or even giving the Classic Mode its own sort of side story, to explain why they are fighting Master Hand and what happens when they beat him.
* Co-Op Classic Mode - I don't really need to explain this one, title says it all.
* Remove Tripping.
* Alternative Costumes - I do not mean in the sense of changing Marth to Roy, that would just be a different character entirely, but things like a costume where Marth has his mask or Mario wears his Dr Mario outfit, sort of like how they?ve done Wario in Brawl.
* One or two stages from each of the three previous Super Smash Bros - I want to be able to play on not just some of the old Brawl stages, but a couple of Melee and Super Smash Bros stages. I don?t expect there to be many though, which is why I said one or two.
* No more Third Party Characters - or at the very least, no other characters from the Sonic and Metal Gear Series. I personally think Sonic and Snake are enough to represent their own series, as well as third party characters in general.
Other than improving the balance between the characters, adding new items, balancing the current items (I felt some of them were a tad too powerful), and adding new stages, I don?t think there is anything else feature wise I specifically want. It will be neat to see what will be added into the game in terms of features, modes, and changes to the current characters? in fact, changes to current characters is something I could detail. That I will reserve for later, this post is long enough as it is.
* A new story mode - I loved Brawl's story mode (I?m not sure why I?m seeing so many people complain about it). The style reminded me of Kirby's Fun Pack (Super Star), the story was simple but enjoyable, and it provided a long experience of lovely playtime. I?d love to see another one of these, preferably with the areas and enemies being taken from the various Nintendo series like Melee's Adventure Mode. One real nifty feature to think about is that using the Wii U game pads, you?d be able to separate your two characters and explore different directions.
I do not expect this to be the same for the 3DS though, if they are aiming to provide a more personal, single player experience. I think a more RPG focused story mode, you choose a character, go through various events and battles, encounter choices that change your journey, and collect stickers to upgrade your character. In a way, a more advanced version of the Street Quest for the 3DS system, although inspiration for this for me came from Soul Calibur II?s Weapon Master Mode.
* An improved Stage Editor - I loved the original stage editor but would love to see it even better. More backgrounds, the ability to make areas off screen (like Sonic?s Green Hill stage, there is land beyond the visible screen point), to connect the stage to the ground, and the ability to add lava or water. The ability to colour in your various set pieces would also be a nice feature.
* Arcade Endings for Classic Mode - As in cut-scenes for Classic Mode, not just a quick slideshow and picture. I would love to see Nintendo presenting quick little presentations of how some of the characters would interact, or even giving the Classic Mode its own sort of side story, to explain why they are fighting Master Hand and what happens when they beat him.
* Co-Op Classic Mode - I don't really need to explain this one, title says it all.
* Remove Tripping.
* Alternative Costumes - I do not mean in the sense of changing Marth to Roy, that would just be a different character entirely, but things like a costume where Marth has his mask or Mario wears his Dr Mario outfit, sort of like how they?ve done Wario in Brawl.
* One or two stages from each of the three previous Super Smash Bros - I want to be able to play on not just some of the old Brawl stages, but a couple of Melee and Super Smash Bros stages. I don?t expect there to be many though, which is why I said one or two.
* No more Third Party Characters - or at the very least, no other characters from the Sonic and Metal Gear Series. I personally think Sonic and Snake are enough to represent their own series, as well as third party characters in general.
Other than improving the balance between the characters, adding new items, balancing the current items (I felt some of them were a tad too powerful), and adding new stages, I don?t think there is anything else feature wise I specifically want. It will be neat to see what will be added into the game in terms of features, modes, and changes to the current characters? in fact, changes to current characters is something I could detail. That I will reserve for later, this post is long enough as it is.
Well things I would like is for them to bring back all the older characters they took out that could be given a unique moveset. Mewtwo could easily be brought back since his moveset is pretty different from Lucario's. Give all existing clones unique movesets, add another character from MGS and Sonic, hopefully Grey Fox. Keep story mode, bring back adventure mode. Redo some movesets for characters to get rid of worthless moves (FLUD is the worst thing ever.) Also add some alternate outfits and maybe an unlocking system for them or taunts like in Playstation Allstar Battle Royale. As well as balance the shit out of Super Smashes, some were completely worthless compared to others.
For new Characters I'd Like to see:
Girahim
Demise, or an uncloned Ganon
Grey Fox
Tails, Knuckles, or Shadow
Palutena
King K Rool
Geno
Tetra
For new Characters I'd Like to see:
Girahim
Demise, or an uncloned Ganon
Grey Fox
Tails, Knuckles, or Shadow
Palutena
King K Rool
Geno
Tetra
