So, that Dead Island Riptide.

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Kopikatsu

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I beat the game a few hours ago and just took a bit of time to let it all sink in. Now I think I'm ready to complain about the everything now.

First, everything is very pretty. Except for the original four survivors, who seem to have notably lower quality models for unknown reasons. Recycled resources, maybe? I can't imagine.

The random loot system means that you can literally go through most of the game before getting a few 'common' components needed to upgrade your party's junk, as I did. First playthrough? Didn't find a single Stingray Tail. Second playthrough? Got five without even realizing it before the end of chapter 4. So there's that.

The 'Dead Zones' (Basically mini-dungeons with a boss zombie and rare loot) are copy-pasted DA2 style. There are basically four types (pool, I-shape, bungalow, cave), and none are particularly large or interesting. Except for possibly the abandoned horror movie set, because it was actually somewhat different.

Edit: I forgot about the 'hotel' and 'hook' Dead Zones from the city. So that's six.

Your character is the biggest bipolar dick in the world. They're moral enough to give glucose to a cocaine addict instead of the real deal to keep him from killing himself, but you extort a guy with back problems out of $1000+ for a $5 bottle of painkillers. And I say it's $5 because the game explicitly tells you that's how much it's worth. It did give me an idea for an interesting mechanic, though; have quests change slightly based on the character's personality (Like a more moral character might swap it for the glucose while another more apathetic character might just say 'Fuck it' and take the actual cocaine instead).

Purna still kind of gets the short end of the stick. Guns are more plentiful and going rambo is definitely waaaay more viable than in the original, but gun mods don't show up until near the very end of the game, so about a third of her skilltree is either useless or weakened until that point.

The new guy, Morgan, is pretty overpowered. Probably. I haven't had a chance to play through the game with anyone else fully yet, but I basically just sold all my weapons and beat the game going barehanded. Since the focus of the game is on crafting and scavenging, I consider Morgan's kit to be gamebreaking. He can kick zombies twenty feet into the air and uppercut people in the jaw hard enough to knock their legs off. Also his uppercut electrocutes people on a crit for some reason. Is he Thor?

During 'siege' scenarios, none of your party can die or else you get a game over. It kind of takes away from the tension, knowing that you can't lose your weapon salesmen and such. Also, they're super worthless, doing 1-33 damage to enemies that have thousands of health even with upgraded weapons. Teammates who pretend to be helping but actually aren't is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine.

Morgan has the worst short-term memory loss ever. For instance, on entering an underground bunker, he expresses amazement that such a place exists and how he's never seen anything like it. Not two minutes later, you find an audio recording from him that reveals he's been there before. Pretty much all of his audio logs have that same dissonance, revealing that he is obviously suffering from some sort of amnesia and should probably get that looked at.

Everyone is simultaneously retarded and psychic. 'Here, this bark will help your brother!' 'Bark? No medicine?' 'No, no mate. It's a natural remedy.' 'My son needs antibotics! If I wanted bark, there's plenty of trees here for me to take it from.' 'Just trust me on this!' How hard would it have been to explain 'Hey, he has malaria. This bark will cure malaria if you chew it. Chew the damn bark.'? Then there's a point where you're supposed to hunt down a certain person in order to learn a location. The person literally tells you nothing except how much of an asshole another character is, and the PC magically divines the target's location from that alone. It's really rather incredible.

And now for spoilers for those who either don't care about the game, don't care about spoilers, or also beat the game.

The plot got super generic and retarded. Naturally mutated virus that spread from the locals of Banoi? HA, NOPE. GOVERNMENT BIO-WEAPON. Also, 'Fury'? Apparently that's a superhuman power related to the virus. Which would actually have been a cool reveal if not for the fact that it seems kind of forced (Everyone keeps mentioning it after you learn of it, even though they have no idea that you know), and that it's the result of the virus reacting with the 'mutagen'...that you weren't exposed to until Riptide. So why did you have Fury in DI1? The final boss fight was fuckin' ridiculous considering that you're fighting against a 'normal' human that's armed with a chainsaw. Just...the final boss fight. Just...I don't know. At least Serpo dies like a punk shortly afterward. Also, how gullible are the survivors? That's the second time they've fallen for the 'Listen to me or the island gets nuked!' line. People keep saying it, and it keeps turning out to be a lie. You think they'd learn.

And that ending? Fuck that ending. It heavily implies that everyone either died or turned into super-zombies as a result of the mutagen. Of course they're going to be a-okay in time for DI3, but seriously. What happened to Charon and the native girl anyway? They never get mentioned again outside of the opening cinemtic, despite both being important characters.)

Now for the good parts! Despite how overpowered Morgan is, playing as him is incredibly fun. Somehow they managed to make Drowners incredibly creepy when they latch onto your boat and slowly crawl up onto it, then tackle you off into the water while you can do nothing but watch the first time it happens. (Then you realize 'E' knocks them off and Shift kills them outright).

There is one quest where you're looking for a man's family and unlike all of the other quests, this one actually gives you some hints that they're actually alive (unlike everyone else you look for in any zombie game ever). When you track them down to the last area, an incredibly touching and somber song starts playing. It's the only area in the game with no enemies (Well, there is one but it dies on it's own before being able to do anything to you) and it's just...beautiful. It's like the original Dead Island's trailer. Just completely detached from the actual game in terms of tone and...

Well, I'm too tired to continue for now (Considering it's 1 AM). So feel free to ask questions, or add your own complaints/comments/commendations/whatevs.
 

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Not surprised by most of this, Dead Island 1 was "7/10: The Game." This one seems like "7/10 2: Return of the Meh."

Normally, this is where I'd say "I'll pick up the $20 complete edition next year," but I'm just so damn sick of zombie games that I'll probably end up skipping it all together.
 

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My big beef with the game is that it seems like they didn't really ADD anything. It clearly uses recycled assets, has only one new character, and the combat looks the same. Besides the Dead Zones, which are from what I hear not even that good, there's nothing added to entice people who were only lukewarm about the first to check it out. It's not even priced as an expansion, it's only $10 cheaper than a brand new game. Ridiculous.
 

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Comic Sans said:
My big beef with the game is that it seems like they didn't really ADD anything. It clearly uses recycled assets, has only one new character, and the combat looks the same. Besides the Dead Zones, which are from what I hear not even that good, there's nothing added to entice people who were only lukewarm about the first to check it out. It's not even priced as an expansion, it's only $10 cheaper than a brand new game. Ridiculous.
There's a lot of stuff added. Siege battles, base defense, party system, Wrestlers, Drowners, Screamers, boats, a rocket launcher, etc. I'd probably be able to have a more well rounded opinion if the multiplayer worked. But, you know, it doesn't.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
There's a lot of stuff added. Siege battles, base defense, party system, Wrestlers, Drowners, Screamers, boats, a rocket launcher, etc. I'd probably be able to have a more well rounded opinion if the multiplayer worked. But, you know, it doesn't.
Huh, I found Dead Island to be more entertaining with multiplayer, aside from the usual annoyance of RPG quest style of things with people running off doing the side quests (much like in MMOs). If you focus on the main campaign, it's more engaging.

While I haven't gotten DIR yet, I liked the addition of the base defense gameplay and was looking forward to it.

How is DIR's multiplayer bad?
 

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ThriKreen said:
Kopikatsu said:
There's a lot of stuff added. Siege battles, base defense, party system, Wrestlers, Drowners, Screamers, boats, a rocket launcher, etc. I'd probably be able to have a more well rounded opinion if the multiplayer worked. But, you know, it doesn't.
Huh, I found Dead Island to be more entertaining with multiplayer, aside from the usual annoyance of RPG quest style of things with people running off doing the side quests (much like in MMOs). If you focus on the main campaign, it's more engaging.

While I haven't gotten DIR yet, I liked the addition of the base defense gameplay and was looking forward to it.

How is DIR's multiplayer bad?
I haven't been able to connect to anyone's game, it just says the connection was lost. A cursory Google search says that I'm not the only one with this problem, either. So yeaaaaah. I haven't heard of any reviewers mentioning the problem, but since most are given the game before the street date (I would imagine), I figure they haven't had a chance to really even attempt multiplayer anyway.

I do remember having a similar issue with the original Dead Island as well, although I could sometimes get a game there. Here? Not so much.
 

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Guy from the 80 said:
Thanks for convincing me not to buy the game.
Lets hope Dead World will be better.
Well, I just like to complain. There are a lot of good things about the game I didn't mention in that little snippet at the bottom. For example, the city is actually pretty cool this time around. There is one area in particular where there are just a whole shitload of corpses floating around in a partially flooded area. 'No problem!', you think. They're Drowners, and Drowners only react if you touch them or start up a boat. So you start to carefully navigate your way around them...and one leaps up to grab you without warning. When you punch it off, you quickly realize that these aren't your normal Drowners considering you're the one drowning in a sea of living corpses this time around.

While Special Infected show up super frequently, Deep Silver at least had the decency to only have 3-4 Rams in the entire game. Because nobody liked them.

Also, I changed my mind about the final boss fight. It was actually pretty hype and would have been cool had I not beaten it the way I did (Littering the room with explosive mines because it was such an obvious boss room). Without spoiling anything important, here are two lines of dialogue from the fight: "I-I can't control it...!!!" "I'M GOIN' TO SLAUGHTER THE LOT OF YOU FUCKERS, HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"
 

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Well at least
Jin or whatever he name is
from the first game is dead. Terrible character.
 

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hazabaza1 said:
Well at least
Jin or whatever he name is
from the first game is dead. Terrible character.
What was wrong with Jin? Also, I don't know if that's something you can really attribute to Riptide. She did die in DI1.
 

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Yup it just looks like a really expensive expansion to me. Not really improving anything on a technical level.

Constantly respawning loot pretty much negates the need to search for stuff.

Not too sure about the enemies keeping up with your level. Yes it stops you from becoming too powerful but it also stops you from feeling like you have levelled up at all :/


Its really quite frustrating. The devs have hit upon a REALLY good idea here (emphasis on melee instead of guns, a fun weapon crafting system) And you can see glimpses of it every now and then. If they had the proper funding or a more competant dev it could be something REALLY special.

The first hour or so of dead island was really good, constantly having to find new weapon because they kept breaking. Soon enough that stops though (since the money keeps coming back).
 

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Kopikatsu said:
hazabaza1 said:
Well at least
Jin or whatever he name is
from the first game is dead. Terrible character.
What was wrong with Jin? Also, I don't know if that's something you can really attribute to Riptide. She did die in DI1.
Well yeah, but I'm just glad she's not back. Unless she was a zombie or something. That'd be fun.

As for what's wrong with her? Well, other than that she was a fucking retard who subconsciously hated the player or something, not much.
Honestly, it's like "Hey Jin, we had to slog through an hour long gunfight to get all this food and water and stuff, and we've agreed as a community not to take it to the prison because it's full on convicts in there due to murdering and raping and stuff so don't go there.
Oh, what's that? You went there? Oh, and look at that, you've been (implied) raped and beaten into a whimpering mess? Well lah-de-fucking dah to you little miss idiot."