So What Change Has Come?
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As someone who voted for him, and had a lot of hope for him, let me say that he's not done a lot. I like the man, he's smart (a big improvement on the last guy), he knows what he's doing, but he's too busy trying to make everyone and their grandma happy to actually bring about the change he promised.
Okay, I understand he's appologized for some stuff America has done, which is a really nice start, but that's not a lot considering the time he's had.
Okay, I understand he's appologized for some stuff America has done, which is a really nice start, but that's not a lot considering the time he's had.
Well his proposed healthcare reforms are a massive change for one thing. Granted they haven't happened yet but I have a feeling they probably will, and that's going to make a difference in the lives of every American. Probably for the better.
Think we could give him a year before we pick him apart? Seriously, Bush took 8 years, needing to steal two presidencies to bring America to it's knees. Heck, he even brought the planet financially down... Sweet. Now, think the guy hired to clean it up is gonna get it done in a couple of months?
To be fair, with the far right basically condemning everything Obama does, it's going to be hard to get anything through Congress without severe backlash. The reason for this is the far right media using scare tactics to make everyone think that Obama will send everybody into concentration camps.
Just a note, the far left media isn't good either, but the far right media is the media that condemns everything Obama does and is, for some reason, the media everyone is watching/listening to right now.
Just a note, the far left media isn't good either, but the far right media is the media that condemns everything Obama does and is, for some reason, the media everyone is watching/listening to right now.
Hah, that's so funny. I was asking that very same question not to long ago, and I live IN America. I saw an Impeach Obama! bumper sticker and I said, what has he actually done? Nothing good or bad really, no major changes have been made.
Well no this isn't what the point of this is I think. The OP wanted to know what all has been accomplished.ChromeAlchemist said:
I'm not American, so I don't know how fast things are supposed to get done. To be fair, Bush did achieve quite a bit in the same year, but one mistake pretty much fucked the country over.Warped Pixel said:
But if you really want to know, he's helping to move the world out of recession by signing on a $787 billion economic stimulus package, he's working to improve relations with Europe, Russia and the muslim world, he went forward with decreasing troop levels in iraq, he's ordered Guantanamo prison to be closed by Jan 2010 and he nominated the first hispanic Supreme Court Judge, and he is pushing for healthcare reform.
There. I don't know if people were expecting the streets to be paved with gold or anything, but...yeah. I think that South Park episode summed it up pretty well.
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well I would be annoyed with how little change there was if we didnt have the huge crisis and a political system that is very adverse to change, I think hes really trying but considering what hes got against him there isnt all that much he can do, unlike republicans who will just roll over for their leaders, dems tend to be more independent and harder to make do things
I have no idea, but I am still looking for my change. Homeless people everywhere would be rejoicing if he actually gave what he promised.
Haha, no I didn't. The South Park episode I'm talking about basically parodies everyone's overexitement with Obama being president (Stan's dad basically quitting his job and going wild because "everything's changed) and the McCain supporter's over exaggeration on the situation (locking themselves in a bunker and waiting for America to destroy itself). It was pretty funny.Hakazaba said:
Nobama ain't doing shit, that little inexperienced prick.
The only thing he might be doing is trying to turn us into a Socialist country with all this Welfare reform and shit.
The only thing he might be doing is trying to turn us into a Socialist country with all this Welfare reform and shit.
Every year on the anniversary of September the 11th, Osama bin Laden has given a speech that would number hours in length, call for a fiery end to the corrupt west, death to infidels, a holy war, pointless ideological rhetoric, all that good stuff.
This year he gave a speech just over 10 minutes.
He described the main reason for the twin towers attacks being America's alliance with Israel, and even went so far as to suggest (probably falsely, but still,) that if such an alliance were cut, then Americans would have nothing to fear from Al Qaeda.
I would call this a major vote for change. People round the world are starting to see America differently, in a better light. This years September 11 message could be seen as Osama noting this and trying to soften his ideological bent, something that thousands of tanks, guns and unmanned missile strikes haven't been able to do.
I'd call that change.
This year he gave a speech just over 10 minutes.
He described the main reason for the twin towers attacks being America's alliance with Israel, and even went so far as to suggest (probably falsely, but still,) that if such an alliance were cut, then Americans would have nothing to fear from Al Qaeda.
I would call this a major vote for change. People round the world are starting to see America differently, in a better light. This years September 11 message could be seen as Osama noting this and trying to soften his ideological bent, something that thousands of tanks, guns and unmanned missile strikes haven't been able to do.
I'd call that change.
THEMILKMAN said:
You do realize that Medicare and Social Security are Socialist programs right? Should we get rid of those?
