I find it pretty hilarious seeing you calling my opinion into question when you're the one bitching about a game you never played, from a platform you clearly hate. That's about as rich as it gets.Worgen said:
So what exactly made Battlefield Bad Company 2 better over the games that followed since?
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Who said I hated it? I mean sure, the singleplayer was utter garbage and played out as exactly the kind of cliched game BC1 satirised in the first place, but the multiplayer was at least stable, and the gunplay was solid. If it wasn't a Battlefield game it would have been a perfectly acceptable middle of the road average modern military shooter like all the rest at the time.Worgen said:
Also well done on scanning the wikipedia page for 10 seconds. Guess you can pretend you played the first one now...
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You are still full of it and just wrong. Dice suck at single player, they have never been able to reach the heights of a cod game but BC2 was a good effort and it worked well.Squilookle said:
I remember the ads for it. It was pretty much just another one of their normal single player campaigns where they use the multiplayer maps and it just feels wrong.
The only people who think BC2 was the only good BF singleplayer are those like yourself that don't have anything better (like BC1) to compare it to. It's better than Hardline, sure, and literally anything is better than BF3, but what you don't seem to understand is that humour you held so dear to BC2? There's barely a shred of it compared to 1. When BC1 released (and hell, even right now as well) the market was saturated with those jingoistic, super serious military shooters. Just about every single military shooter on the shelves was that exact style. In comes Bad Company 1 that takes the piss out of all of them. The characters are all fleshed out, they interact in genuinely engaging ways that don't make you want to pull your teeth out, and the whole premise of the game -instead of saving the world (or even worse just 'Murica, because clearly the whole world is supposed to care about that) for the millionth time- is stealing gold for entirely selfish reasons. In 2008 that was such a wonderful breath of fresh air- not just because it broke away from the been-there-done-that same old crap, but because it looked like the FPS genre might finally start becoming self-aware.Worgen said:
So hopes were high among the playerbase when BC2 was announced with the returning cast, and on multiple platforms no less! Now the PC crowd could get in on the fun! Considering how on-the-money BC1 was, how could they possibly fuck it up? Weeeell, they fucked it up by making BC2 yet another jingoistic, super serious military shooter. It somehow became the very thing BC1 had been making a mockery of the whole time. There was a sprinkling of humour sure, but the core of that team dynamic had been totally lost, and even worse it's the same tired old "save 'Murica" plotline we've seen a million times before. Yawn.
So no, I'm afraid BC2's singleplayer was just the same old horseshit all the other MMSs were; at the time and to this day. I would say that you'd be able to see that for yourself had you ever actually played the first one, but considering you dropped this gold nugget:
...that really sums up all we need to know about what you consider to be 'quality' in a game.
So whatever, man. Just go on believing what you want to believe. Keep telling me I'm wrong about that game you never played, keep believing that the wide open sandboxes of BC1 were somehow worse than the garbage corridor funnel levels of BC2, keep believing that COD is a 'height' of singleplayer gameplay to aspire to... meanwhile I'll be off having a ball with my Truckasaurus-Rex.
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Holy crap, I'm not even going to bother reading that. Its just going to be more of the same thing. You bitching about a fine single player campaign and not even giving the multi the kudos it deserves. And me talking shit about a game that I only really played the demo of since it was limited to consoles, to annoy you.Squilookle said:
Like it or not COD has some pretty great single player campaigns. Granted only one of them was as good in the story as it was in the gameplay and that was cod 4 but pretty much every single one has been enjoyable for at least a bombastic spectacle. Even ghost, which had a shit story and the weakest gameplay of the lot, had some really cool set pieces.
Whatever, man. You never played the game- doesn't surprise me in the least you won't read something that makes you uncomfortable either. GG, great debate.Worgen said:
P.S. I did praise BC2's multi. Guess you also didn't read that part. Surprise surprise.
Since I don't play MMS multiplayer, I'm not at liberty to discuss the subject. You should try that sometime.Worgen said:
More intimate take on infantry and vehicle gameplay that made for a solid spin-off. It hooked me in because actual squad tactics worked, and it wasn't a twitch shooter. Pretty much everything I would say has already been said, except that Medic only had two specializations and they were the Medkit Improved Heal and Improved Ranged specializations, and any speculation to there being others is heretical. Medibros reprefuckingsent.
