scientology is a cult started so the founder could make money that,s it in a nutshell I,m not being cynical here thiat is the thruth people need to pay allot of money to reach enlightmentDarzen said:
So....What the hell is scientology?
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I'm 100% dead serious. I don't joke about Scientology, I know too many people who have had their lives ruined by it.miscelaneous said:
Just want to clear up a huge misconception here:
Very very few Scientologists know of or believe in the Xenu space story, as it's considered highly classified information in the church. Only those Scientologists who have dedicated their full lives to the religion and spent up to $300,000 have been taught that part of the religion (and even many of them don't take it literally). Public Scientologists are not allowed to know about the story beforehand, and if they hear about it, the church simply tells them it isn't true, that the media is making it up to discredit the religion.
The point being, once you've spent your entire life in a religion and invested your entire life's savings into it, you're likely to believe anything to justify the time and money you wasted.
Very very few Scientologists know of or believe in the Xenu space story, as it's considered highly classified information in the church. Only those Scientologists who have dedicated their full lives to the religion and spent up to $300,000 have been taught that part of the religion (and even many of them don't take it literally). Public Scientologists are not allowed to know about the story beforehand, and if they hear about it, the church simply tells them it isn't true, that the media is making it up to discredit the religion.
The point being, once you've spent your entire life in a religion and invested your entire life's savings into it, you're likely to believe anything to justify the time and money you wasted.
I always told my mom wait so you believe in a book that was written 2000 years from now ish. What makes you so sure that this isn't just a fable like harry potter? What scared me was thinking about the people 2000 years from now worshiping harry potter. If your wondering where im going I'm saying that this guy who was a fiction writer wrote a book like this and now a fair amount of people believe it's true and it didn't even take 2000 years.
It doesn't make much more sense, but there's still a difference between a thousands of years old religion that has shaped the whole world to a major extent, and retains some mystical element of wisdom by way of being created such a long time ago, where information wasn't as available and publicized about people as it is today, and (even though I'm an atheist), contains a lot of very philosophical ideas and deep wisdom, as opposed to a religion based upon the works of a sci-fi writer who died only 24 years ago, about some, fucking...aliens.Gralian said:
'Mystical element of wisdom', eh? I call that a fancy way of describing 'ignorance'. I call it lost in translation over time and as the stories got passed down. I call it fantasy drafted from that very lack of scientific knowledge that you decry. I call God an alien as much as you call Xenu or whatever Scientologists worship an alien, because he / she / it certainly isn't native to Earth, is it? God is as much an alien as any other wacky space-god. You seem to perpetuate the idea "ignorance is bliss". Information wasn't as available, and that makes it okay to take on board such bizarre philosophies and wild stories like obeying any form of higher authority without question? That punishing those that do bad makes you just as loving as if you'd forgiven them? That it's okay to threaten and frighten people into obeying you with promises of said punishment if you don't acquiesce? That things like prostitution and violence are an acceptable means to do good? So if you didn't know the Sun was a big ball of gas, it'd be okay to claim that was the eye of a God because - woah, information isn't available! That suddenly makes it valuable wisdom. Right?Fraught said:
Yeah.
Frankly, whether the book was witten 1,000 years ago or 1 year ago, at the end of the day it's still a book written by some guy. Age does not suddenly venerate it into truth or make it any less credible.
Read the story of Job, as an example, and tell me how that is philosophical wisdom, in any way - how on earth you can justify 'God' making a bet with 'Satan' over faith and how the fuck it was fair to Job for suffering through all that and still say 'i am faithful'. Aren't Gods supposed to be above such petty things as this? Isn't the God supposed to be loving? Seems to me a bunch of chaps just decided to apply human emotions and ideals to a superhuman identity and people began to worship it, and just because it's applied to the human experience, people assume it to suddenly be more true than aliens or whatever else 'modern' religions are worshipping now. Hmm.