So, when and how does the War on Terror end?

Manji187

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It's been almost 10 years since 9/11, Osama bin Laden is dead...like so many other Al Qaeda/ Taliban insurgents. Is the end in sight? How does the end even look like?

Even if you kill every single Al Qaeda/ Taliban operative and their financial backers...the pain and sorrow of 10 years of atrocities (Abu Ghraib/ Guantanamo Bay) and incidents (infamous collateral damage) could possibly inspire a new generation. What is the U.S. gonna do...wipe entire nations of the map...women and children included?

Will the War on Terror end when every single "rogue state" will be a liberal democracy with free market capitalism for ideology and a U.S. base on its territory? What are the chances of that?

Or will it end with the downfall of the U.S. economy (national debt over 14 trillion and counting and the upcoming Medicare/ Medicaid trouble)? Isn't the U.S. technically bankrupt?

Or is there another way?

Or....will it continue indefinitely? Like in the saying "Eternal war for eternal peace"...basically meaning that there never will be peace.
 

Nikolaz72

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It will never end. It is an endless war. The terrorgroups NOW might disappear. But they will keep making new ones. Maybe even in the west. So no, it wont end. Never.
 

Mithol

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As long as humans have free will people will die because of their opinions. Sad really, but this has always happened, only in the last 10 years its got the media fanfare to accompany it.
 

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Yep, it'll continue forever, probably under different names but the same thing nonetheless. There will always be reasons for people to fight, and they will always create reasons for others to fight back.

War and conflict will keep going forever, it's just the stated motivation that changes (although the real motivation is almost invariably power in some form). It'll keep going at least until everyone in the universe is implanted with control chips, or everyone kills each other, whichever comes first.
 

Manji187

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Nikolaz72 said:
It will never end. It is an endless war. The terrorgroups NOW might disappear. But they will keep making new ones. Maybe even in the west. So no, it wont end. Never.
Can you actually picture this in your mind as going on forever? Something that will still happen in the year 3000, 30.000, 300.000, 3.000.000?

EDIT: I mean...formally speaking slavery in the U.S. ended...even though it lasted a long time.
 

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To think that terror is some kind of object you can win against is really laughable and sad.. Mostly sad..

Terror is an idea and you cant really destroy ideas..

But what you CAN do with terror is using it politically, to attack your opposition and call everyone who isnt on your side a terrorist (or conspiracy theorist, they really like that one) and even make your own terror attacks, well known as False-Flag Attacks..


With the political system the western world has, terror will keep being there, not only because you really cant defeat it, but because its just a really handy tool in keeping people under control and making them do what you say.. Otherwise.. THE TERRORISTS WIN!
 

Cridhe

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It's always been going on, it's just that we became more heavily involved in it on 9/11. It was a holy war until we stepped in and renamed it a terror war, and it's been going on for hundreds of years.
 

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The "war on terror" will never be declared "over", because it's just a catch-phrase, I'm guessing. You can't defeat a concept like that. It will probably be forgotten soon enough, though. Terrorism didn't exactly come into being with the World Trade Center attacks, it was just thrust into the public eye of the western world.

At some point it will be pushed away again. Terrorism won't, as people have already said. Someone, somewhere, will always feel the need to use violence to get their percieved "point" across.
 

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War on Terror is made up like a brand and such a naive concept as it is; it has been established and works the way it's meant to be.

When it stops to work in all it's populist power; then it's "put to an end".
 

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The war on terror is, at best, a load of shit based on the misnomer that you can kill an idea (namely the idea of terrorism). And at its worst? A blank check to do immoral things all in the name of a very flimsy excuse.
 

Manji187

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GWarface said:
To think that terror is some kind of object you can win against is really laughable and sad.. Mostly sad..

Terror is an idea and you cant really destroy ideas..

But what you CAN do with terror is using it politically, to attack your opposition and call everyone who isnt on your side a terrorist (or conspiracy theorist, they really like that one) and even make your own terror attacks, well known as False-Flag Attacks..


With the political system the western world has, terror will keep being there, not only because you really cant defeat it, but because its just a really handy tool in keeping people under control and making them do what you say.. Otherwise.. THE TERRORISTS WIN!
I understand that. The abstractness of the idea...and the fearmongering/ powermongering of the political elite....but no matter how gullible some people are...in my opinion this situation can't last forever. Someone will call bullshit on all of this...in fact..people are doing that already.
 

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As many other people have said, "The war on terror" will never end. "The war on terror" has gone on for time in memorium but under different names and in different guises, and different kinds of people will be the bad guys so to speak.
 

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Pretty sure that there are more terrorists out there than when the war began so not going well. Maybe it will just rattle on for decades acheiving bugger all just like the war on drugs.
 

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When the oil runs dry. Dohoho.

But seriously, the War on Terror? will never be over, since you can't destroy anti-American sentiment by invading more and more nations, as this will just create more of it. A fact so simple yet somehow completely incomprehensible to the US government.
 

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FalloutJack said:
The war on terror is, at best, a load of shit based on the misnomer that you can kill an idea (namely the idea of terrorism). And at its worst? A blank check to do immoral things all in the name of a very flimsy excuse.
Will things not change if more and more people understand this? Will they not come to understand...as time drags on?
 

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Its just like the "War on drugs", people getting high and escapism (lol) is human nature.

And also in human nature is changing others around you to be more like you. Both terrorists and counter terrorists have this goal.

Terrorism is pretty much the new Communism anyway.
 

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Manji187 said:
GWarface said:
To think that terror is some kind of object you can win against is really laughable and sad.. Mostly sad..

Terror is an idea and you cant really destroy ideas..

But what you CAN do with terror is using it politically, to attack your opposition and call everyone who isnt on your side a terrorist (or conspiracy theorist, they really like that one) and even make your own terror attacks, well known as False-Flag Attacks..


With the political system the western world has, terror will keep being there, not only because you really cant defeat it, but because its just a really handy tool in keeping people under control and making them do what you say.. Otherwise.. THE TERRORISTS WIN!
I understand that. The abstractness of the idea...and the fearmongering/ powermongering of the political elite....but no matter how gullible some people are...in my opinion this situation can't last forever. Someone will call bullshit on all of this...in fact..people are doing that already.
Well, yeah.. People ARE waking up to all the lies..
The problem is that the people who has woken up and are speaking out are being fiercely attacked by the governments and their mainsteam media lapdogs..

That puts people into a hard position, where you can either continue to fight for the truth and suffer the consequences or you can just give up and sit back to look at the world fucking up..

People are waking up, yes.. But its all the stupid ignorant motherfuckers that keeps the SS Bilderberg afloat..
 

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When people lose interest. Sure, terrorism will still be around, but the response to terrorism has, IMHO caused far greater damage than the terrorism itself. Which is more or less the whole point of terrorism, though, so I shouldn't be too surprised.