So... why start smoking?

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Talespinner

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A lot of people are explaining why they ARE smoking; very few address why they STARTED smoking.

For me, and every single other smoker I've ever talked to about it, it was to be cool. It was a shortcut into a group of people you wanted to hang out with. Even before the stricter smoking rules you were almost always sent to a certain area to smoke and sitting there with all the "cool" people smoking not only made you feel like one of them but it actually gave you the change to talk to them, get to know them better and be accepted by them.

The specifics varies from person to person but I've never heard a description of why someone started to smoke that didn't essentially come down to him/her wanting to be cool, either by standing out from a specific group or by becoming a part of one.

Obviously there is a lot of people that's unwilling or unable to admit that but over time most people learn to look at their own reasons from a slightly more mature angle.

PS: I smoked 3 packs (not those pansy American 10-packs; real 20-packs) a day for around 12 years. I quit. Not because it was expensive, unhealthy, frowned upon or any of that bullshit but because I got tired of being all twitchy if I didn't have my smokes around. I quit. And even with my amount of cigarettes per day the physical addiction was negligible. It's not a popular fact since all these phoney "you can only stop smoking if you use OUR drug instead!!!"-products makes millions on people that believe the lie about how addictive smoking is, but it's the truth none the less. The only physical sensation when you quit is a slight sucking empty feeling in your stomach that feels quite a bit like being a little hungry. That's it. All the rest is psychological.

Deep-rooted psychological shit, mind you, but still psychological. We've been raised with how addictive and dangerous smoking is but everyone was smoking anyways (at least they used to be) so we silently learned that the addiction was VERY severe! Why else would people keep smoking? This idea of an almost heroin-like addiction them makes for the perfect excuse to fend off the idiots nagging you about quitting: "I've tried but it's JUST SO HARD!!!". No it's not. It's hard because you don't really WANT to quit. And FAIR GAME TO THAT! The problem is not gicing people an excuse to get rid of the pesky motherlovers that badger us all the time, the problem is when the smoker start to believe the lie themselves.

/wall-of-text off
 

Clive Howlitzer

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Milky_Fresh said:
Clive Howlitzer said:
I've asked myself also. I don't really blame people who started smoking 10+ years ago, or even further back. I mean, the whole "smoking is bad for you" thing really was sort of up in the air. However nowadays, I cannot fathom why anyone would start. Especially given the friggin' PRICE of smoking. Its 7 dollars a pack here.
7 dollars a pack? Are you serious?
21 dollars for a 25 pack of marlboros here. Are you american? Just curious, because our money is worth more or less the same at the moment.
I am. I am on the east coast, Massachusetts. The price for smoking is nuts.
 

GreatVladmir

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ThisIsSnake said:
They do it because of peer pressure.

It makes you stink
Stains teeth and nails
Alters your tolerance to stress to the point where the only time you don't feel stressed is when you light up
Causes ED, Emphysema, Lung Cancer, Throat Cancer, Heart Disease etc
Grinding withdrawel symptoms

The only thing is has going for it is a costly stress relief and weight loss.

This only applies to tobacco of course.
Thats....just so cute, that is a text book anti-smoking campaign flyer there. I started on my own accord, yes some people do start to peer pressure, but I'm ready to stake my 10 Royals that peer pressure smokers are a tiny proportion and most people start on their own.
 

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LostAlone said:
Look, you make some good points, but I feel the need to point this out (and I'm doing this as someone who understands exactly where you are coming from). On a site of, predominantly younger, predominantly "well behaved" people like this it's not really worth it to make the comparison you are viz. addiction.
For people who have never been through "true" withdrawals the idea of nicotine withdrawal is on the same level because, bear with me here, they absolutely cannot relate.
I'm just saying that because you should spare yourself the frustration.

On topic, people start smoking for a plethora of reasons. Peer pressure, because they're bored, because their family always smoked, ignorance, take your pick. People who continue to smoke fall in to two categories:
Those who smoke because they want to. And if they want to then go right ahead.
Those who can't quit because of addictive personalities or weak will.

I don't get cigarette smoking either, personally, I just never saw the enjoyment in it.
 

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Started at...15 or 16. It was a stressful period. I'm not addicted. If I'm not in the mood for a cigarette I don't smoke it and I've gone through months without one before starting on the pack a day routine again.

If I'm stressed, pissed off or generally moody, a cig helps and everyone's happy. When I first tried it, I wasn't sick (you only get sick if you get stronger ones instead of light/slim at least from the experience of people I know) and I did know the risks. Its benefits just outweighed them.
 

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GreatVladmir said:
Wow....this thread is one massive /facepalm. Seriously, people smoke because they want to smoke, thats it. I'm a smoker and I dont smoke cause "Its addictive lol", it isn't, smack & crack are yes, cocaine when used heavily is but smoking isn't. I smoke because I enjoy it, we all do sommit we enjoy thats unhealthy for us, I smoke, some people race cars on a weekend, but I dont see any threads title "So...why race cars?".
Alright then, prove your thesis, spend one month without smoking or any form of aid, then PM me the results.


Deshin said:
You're right, there are many forms of addiction, some mental and some physical. Nicotine is addictive on the physical/chemistry level no doubt. However the other guy is right about it doesn't usually induce extreme cases of withdrawal you'd find with people hooked on the hard stuff. Other guy is also right it's not fair or even ethical to label smokers in the same crowd as drug users.
I don't, I am merely pointing out that smoking IS addictive and claiming it's not is something only an addict or a fucking moron would do, not that I'm calling him a moron of course.

Ldude893 said:
Because people think it can improve their image and because of influence by close ones and peers. People consider it a stress relief when in fact the stress relief comes from the addictive chemicals of the cigarette, and the only way to curb that stress is by taking in more of the chemicals. It's hard to get out of.
Exactly!
Not that a single smoker will ever believe you.

Jams said:
@moretimethansense - Smoking isn't addictive in the same way, as you yourself pointed out the hardest part of quitting ciggies is all the little habitual things which can still be with you decades down the line - the actual physical addiction barely lasts a week after your last ciggarette. Smoking shouldn't be considered addictive in the same way as some heavy drugs, habitual yes, addictive no.
Now this one I'm tempted.
IT IS a fucking addiction, and point of fact the chemical part takes quite a bit longer than a week to shift, I've been living with a smoker most of my life, I've seen what this shit does to people, granted hard drugs are more blatant in their addictive qualities but I've yet to see a morphine addict crumple a cast iron cooking pot because their slipper came off.
 

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Do they care about me? Nope. But at least I get the satisfaction to know I'll live a longer, happier life in the end. That's all that counts for me.
And you missed the point of it entirely. Happy is objective based on perception and luck, I'm sure the guy up above in this thread would be a lot *LESS* happier had he not offered his now-fiance that light.

As for living longer, take it away Bill Hicks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNCXyVtni8

Oh and PS, my grandpa lived til his 80s and he smoked every day of his life since he was 12. My brother in law's father died in his mid 40s with cancer and never smoked. Life's a *****, don't think you've found the elixir of life because you don't smoke.
 

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I've smoked a few cigarettes, mostly offered by friends. I AM however, in no way addicted. I just tried it out........and it felt absolutely annoying... my throat felt so scratchy. And ofcourse you can't scratch the inside of your throat :mad:

Then again the first time I had booze, my friend ordered this bitter and horrible drink that i didn't enjoy much, so maybe my friends just have terrible taste....
 

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LostAlone said:
Aris Khandr said:
But I can see how someone with more tolerance for pollutants entering their systems might have ended up hooked in such a situation.
Wow.

Haters really hating all over this thread.

Again. Smoking does not 'get you hooked'. It is not crack, it is not smack. It does not produce a dizzying high, nor protracted comedowns. People do it because they like it or because it has a benefit for them socially. End of.

Tobacco is not even close to as addictive as you think it is.
you're right, tobacco isn't that addictive. Nicotine is, however, which is also in cigarettes.
 

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GreatVladmir said:
ThisIsSnake said:
They do it because of peer pressure.

It makes you stink
Stains teeth and nails
Alters your tolerance to stress to the point where the only time you don't feel stressed is when you light up
Causes ED, Emphysema, Lung Cancer, Throat Cancer, Heart Disease etc
Grinding withdrawel symptoms

The only thing is has going for it is a costly stress relief and weight loss.

This only applies to tobacco of course.
Thats....just so cute, that is a text book anti-smoking campaign flyer there. I started on my own accord, yes some people do start to peer pressure, but I'm ready to stake my 10 Royals that peer pressure smokers are a tiny proportion and most people start on their own.
True peer pressure isn't the only reason, rebellion, copying a parent. But a lot of kids at my high school would try to fit in with the bad boy crowd by smoking. I get caught up in this because the only time I've seen my Dad cry is when he told me not to smoke, his mother was dying of Emphysema at the time.
 

thylasos

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They're drunk and think they won't get addicted. Sometimes that's true. Not often, mind. Still, I held off for... four years, I think, on the occasional smoker schtick...

Russia kind of screwed that up... it's easier to be an occasional smoker when 20 fags is £6 ($10, ish)... when it's 80p ($1.30, ish), it's rather tempting to buy a pack a day.
 

GreatVladmir

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moretimethansense said:
GreatVladmir said:
Wow....this thread is one massive /facepalm. Seriously, people smoke because they want to smoke, thats it. I'm a smoker and I dont smoke cause "Its addictive lol", it isn't, smack & crack are yes, cocaine when used heavily is but smoking isn't. I smoke because I enjoy it, we all do sommit we enjoy thats unhealthy for us, I smoke, some people race cars on a weekend, but I dont see any threads title "So...why race cars?".
Alright then, prove your thesis, spend one month without smoking or any form of aid, then PM me the results.
Why should I prove myself to some anti-smoker like you? Even if I did, you wouldnt listen to reason.

Yes its bad for me I know, but do I give two shits what some over-edducated prick thinks? No, I dont, why should I live my life based on scare mongering tactics? If we listen to EVERYTHING they said is bad, we wouldn't drink, wouldn't smoke, wouldnt use the internet, wouldnt drive, wouldn't use certain products because of addertives, we wouldn't play video games and alot more stuff. Out lives would have no enjoyment, we would just work, eat our organic peace food, sleep, MAYBE reproduce and then die.

Look, I know we wont see eye to eye, you are basing your opinion on "fact" (I use the term VERY loosely) while I'm basing mine of my own experience.
 

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Joined new school made new friends. New friends used to smoke and during breaks I would stand with them.

So there I picked it up and am still doing it today.

Though my friends have stopped smoking now because it was getting to expensive.
 

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Every smoker I've talked to has stated the same thing: Started when they were in Highschool, couldn't stop.

I'm sure there are more reasons but back in my hometown this seems to be the most common reason.
 

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The concept of legalization is a very huge topic with a whole rats nest of pros and cons, so not really the place to get into it all.

on topic, thhere seems to be 4 sides.
Smokers - it's great in moderation but does have health risks, but what doesn't these days?
fanatic smokers - it's perfect and everything about it is perfect! you're stupid.

non-smokers - there is no benefit and they only do it to look cool(er than me)
fanatic non-smokers - YOUR ALL GONNA DIE! you can't quit and I'm better than you you idiot.

A little biased, I'm in the smokers camp.

But yeah for reasons to try it theres stress releif, social situations(getting into or out of), image, etc.

If you're trying to decide if it's for you I would sugest you focus on the posters who have smoked and quit as they have actually been on both sides of the fence, or you know, just try it.
 

chiggerwood

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For me it was curiosity. The way I figured it was if I don't like it I won't do it. Nowadays I don't really smoke cigarettes all that often (a pack a month maybe) but I do love cigars, and my pipe. however those are for the taste, and smell, and I will never smoke anything that stinks, and to all the detractors who think all tobacco stinks smell the pipe smoke of black Cavendish it smells like a pleasant air freshener
 

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If I started smoking, it would be because it's bad-ass.

This would be a common answer, wouldn't it? Peer pressure. As much as we hate cancer and cigarette addiction, something has been engraved like an unspoken rule. If you smoke, you are cool.

I think it starts with fantasy. I'm a fitness and health nut because I want a body and long-life like I see in fictional and non-fictional materials of movie, comic, cartoon, etc. I'm striving for an awesome and attractive future "me". A lot of us do this today, but it goes both ways.

As bad as smoking is, so many of my favorite (fake and real) characters do it. It's a trait they share, this "I don't care, it's me". "Being comfortable in one's skin (and mortality)" meaning confidence and integrity. Drugs, alcohol, smoking, and partying (all attributes to "cool") can all be a future "me" if I choose apply myself to them.

Will I though? I won't make that decision yet. But I know that it's bad-ass.
 

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GreatVladmir said:
Look, I know we wont see eye to eye, you are basing your opinion on "fact" (I use the term VERY loosely) while I'm basing mine of my own experience.
Clearly anecdotal evidence outweighs scientific studies. [/sarcasm]
 

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2718 said:
GreatVladmir said:
Look, I know we wont see eye to eye, you are basing your opinion on "fact" (I use the term VERY loosely) while I'm basing mine of my own experience.
Clearly anecdotal evidence outweighs scientific studies. [/sarcasm]
^This x8

No one can deny smoking is addictive. Heck, I smoke and I know well when I crave a cigarette it's because I'm addicted to the sense of menthol buzzes and nicotine. I mean, I'm currently smoking cigarettes I don't even like the taste of. It's clearly an addictive substance and people who won't admit it are in denial.