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Steve Butts

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emeraldrafael said:
Oka, I'll agree on the lincoln part, and I can see your reasoning. However, just based on it was a military campaign that Lincoln in some part did green light (maybe not that severity, put he did tell him to take Selma) and that this is a tactic of war, I believe it transcends terrorism.

Though I'll agree, or at least acknowledge, that I the Boston Tea Party was a terroristic attack against Britain. Just the Sherman march struck me as odd, since both Hitler and Napoleon invoked a similar strategy when they tried to invade Russia.
True, what soldiers and generals do in war is rightly judged by very different standards.
 

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redisforever said:
SilentCom said:
I've heard a quote somewhere, don't remember where, but it was something like "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".
That could have been from the Bond film "Die Another Day"
The quotation is from the book Harry's Game about the IRA.
 

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gellert1984 said:
SilentCom said:
Terrorist:
? n
a. a person who employs terror or terrorism, esp as a political weapon

Terrorism:
?noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Courtesy of Dictionary.com
See to me that describes a lot of politicians and not a few media outlets.
Yes, the term is vague to the point of meaningless. Just about every authority figure will use fear to maintain authority.

gellert1984 said:
more or less OT: I find it interesting that a group of people are using religion to wage a war in middle east against the west, and in the west another group of people are using religion to wage a war against a gender.
Eh, everyone uses religion to enforece gender roles, and have been doing so for millenia.
 

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be a farmer
a farmer buys a truck, who cares
a farmer buys 300 kilos of fertiliser who cares
a farmer buys diesel fuel, who cares
a farmer buys guns, who cares
a farmer drives said truck to capital, who cares
 

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thaluikhain said:
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But that's the beauty of it.

Kill a small number of people publically, and the public will cry out for extreme measures to stop you. Massive amounts of resources needed to stop many more common or garden deaths will be diverted to minimise the chance of you killing the next handful.
Quite a twisted sense of beauty...

And in the end, those resources will go to kill them and their pathetic cause. Terrorists which think their cause will benefit from their actions are certainly mistaken; Ultimately, nothing but hatred for what they champion will come of it.
 

TheIronRuler

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It all depends on your consiosness. The way you percieve your world.
Besides, like another user said, "Souplex", terrorism is truely using intimidation and/or fear for a political agenda. Whether it is a person fighting for the freedom of him family or his freedom to practice his religion, or the media trying to use the sheeple to their advantage by telling them that if they do not cooperate the terrorists would get them.
Just like my mother when I was six, she scared me to death just to make me eat my dinner.
The differance is that it's on a larger scale, and they use it for political agendas.
I read in the book WWZ something very interesting, That in a democracy 'Public Support' is a resource that is most valuable, and it is integral for the operation of a nation.
 

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SilentCom said:
Have any of my fellow escapists wonder what it is like to be a terrorist? I'm not trying to advocate terrorism but have you wondered why people turn toward terrorism? I've heard a quote somewhere, don't remember where, but it was something like "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". I'm saying, have you guys questioned why the terrorists are doing the things that they do? Most of us dismiss it as "they're evil" or "they just hate us". If they hate us, what reason do they have? I ask this partly because it is not just Islamic radicals that turn to terrorism but even people within our own countries. Everytime you hear about random shootings or school shootings, this is a type of terrorism. I guess I'm just asking everone to try to look at terrorism from a different perspective.

Well in that case I'd be...

*Takes off shades*

...an hero.

YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
 

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almostgold said:
Never liked that 'freedom fighter' quote, mainly because it ignores the part of the definition of terrorism that includes targeting the civilian population to causeterror to further your goals. I would change the word 'terrorist' in the quote to 'insurgent' (for references, it was mainly insurgents we were fighting in Iraq: they targeted us, not the Iraq civilians. Most of them). Not that stupid people don't use the two terms interchangeably...
Targeting the civilian population could be seen as freedom fighting in the eyes of the terrorist. It depends on perspective.
 

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Imperator_DK said:
thaluikhain said:
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But that's the beauty of it.

Kill a small number of people publically, and the public will cry out for extreme measures to stop you. Massive amounts of resources needed to stop many more common or garden deaths will be diverted to minimise the chance of you killing the next handful.
Quite a twisted sense of beauty...

And in the end, those resources will go to kill them and their pathetic cause. Terrorists which think their cause will benefit from their actions are certainly mistaken; Ultimately, nothing but hatred for what they champion will come of it.
If their cause involves creating the maximum amount of suffering and destruction they can, having resources directed away from that towards real or imagined terrorist threats is a victory. Though, that's not terrorism per se, that's flailing back at a nation to no real end, but people lump that under terrorism.

Historically, terrorism hasn't always been unsuccessful, it's perfectly possible to scare people into following your lead. Look what happened after George Tiller was murdered, suddenly a massive amount of doctors didn't want to provide abortions anymore.
 

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If I were a Muslim terrorist (I assume those were the terrorists in question) I'd have sand in my ass, I'd be horny as hell (because no sex or masturbation before marriage acquisition of a slave woman) and fed up with the life I live. Naturally I would devote my pointless by western standards life to kill as many infidels as I can, because that way I would believe I can achieve a better state of existence.

To be honest, I feel as bad about terrorists as I feel bad for their victims. In a sense we are all victims of the way societies have developed and their, mostly useless, conflicts.

If not for the extreme poverty in those countries, I doubt any person would be compelled to blow himself up in the name of some guy in the clouds.
 

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Steve Butts said:
redisforever said:
SilentCom said:
I've heard a quote somewhere, don't remember where, but it was something like "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".
That could have been from the Bond film "Die Another Day"
The quotation is from the book Harry's Game about the IRA.
Haven't read it, but it was used in the Bond film as well. That I know.
 

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According to


All it takes is the courage to grab a suitcase filled with 4 pounds of anthrax, run down some tunnels from Mexico into the US, head on over to the White House, and sprinkle it around like confetti.

It sounds fairly easy to me.
 

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Inside all of us there resides a rebel, a non-conformist, a freedom-fighter, a oppression-resisting-no-nonsense-all-is-fair-in-war warrior, a Dunkel Krieger.

If my country ever were to be besieged by an oppressive, hostile force, I would refuse, resist. I would forsake my moral code, I would do what must be done, freedom is never cheap.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Eh, everyone uses religion to enforece gender roles, and have been doing so for millenia.
True but I expect better from a country that preaches freedom and supposedly seperates the church from the state, yet nearly every politician within that state is a christian, and has never had a non-christian president.
 

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SilentCom said:
Have any of my fellow escapists wonder what it is like to be a terrorist? I'm not trying to advocate terrorism but have you wondered why people turn toward terrorism? I've heard a quote somewhere, don't remember where, but it was something like "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". I'm saying, have you guys questioned why the terrorists are doing the things that they do? Most of us dismiss it as "they're evil" or "they just hate us". If they hate us, what reason do they have? I ask this partly because it is not just Islamic radicals that turn to terrorism but even people within our own countries. Everytime you hear about random shootings or school shootings, this is a type of terrorism. I guess I'm just asking everone to try to look at terrorism from a different perspective.
I don't think they see themselves as terrorists. They see themselves as holy warriors, fighting for what's right. They're right, we're wrong, and the only way to solve that discrepancy is to get rid of us.