SOE Threatens Bans for Planetside 2 Modders
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Not even. Look through your Video Card drivers. Any card that has drivers built in the past 15 years has options to tweak the colors, brightness and contrast. Sure, maybe you might lose a frame a second, but it's a frame a second, if that.fix-the-spade said:
A simple consistency check to see if any files have been modified recently can be used to find mods. (Just like Source and Spark's SV_Consistency checks)SecretsOfMoon said:
What about them?
I would agree but it could easily be local and not server side. League of Legends has this. You can make and download custom player made skins, but everyone else just sees the basic skin. I would love this because their is one aspect of this game they have fucked up big time. The player silhouettes are all identical and the colors at a distance are almost identical. It should have been made with more varies silhouettes or at least some kind of coloring that give you instantaneous recognition of friend or foe. I defer to what they did in Blacklight Retribution, the character colors are very distinct.Thedutchjelle said:
That said, it's still a good game. But both myself and enemy players have had that moment where we stared at each other for two second until we realized we were not the same team. And don't even get me started on the friendly fire that results from the issue.
Edit: That would be cheating though, as of right now, everyone is at the same disadvantage with the current color scheme. Custom client side skins would be like cheating if it changed that, so I guess that's a no go.
The point of buying aesthetic gear is to show off how awesome you look. While people might still mod items, people would still want to own the item of choice or else no one would be impressed. Not to mention that in my experience, modding a model/texture also changes the way other players look, which makes it seem a bit less special.Thedutchjelle said:
EVE Online has tons of mods, tools, and websites for strategic planing and practice.
They (CCP, the ones who make the game) make an API (All the info on your account) that you can put into a program to help you work on fitting, and manage your wallet when you are not playing in the active client. One program makes a beep when a War Target flies into your system. The list is quite long really.
This Draconian approach is probably going to fail. If only because it will stifle legitimate creativity, and non-cheating programs.
They (CCP, the ones who make the game) make an API (All the info on your account) that you can put into a program to help you work on fitting, and manage your wallet when you are not playing in the active client. One program makes a beep when a War Target flies into your system. The list is quite long really.
This Draconian approach is probably going to fail. If only because it will stifle legitimate creativity, and non-cheating programs.
I'm totally behind SOE for this issue. It does kind of suck that people can't run any "benign" mods, but as SOE said, it becomes an issue when players start yelling that SOE banned them for one such mod. Especially since that's a problem whether they're right or wrong. Either it's a ready excuse, or every now and then SOE screws up and does ban someone unfairly. Far easier to simply say no mods.
As for those of you saying graphical mods should still be allowed, I think I saw a few people answering this, but that's a really, really bad idea for an FPS game. As an example, I play Infiltrator (basically sniper, for those who haven't played) a lot. It sure would be helpful to be able to change the enemy skins to bright orange with a target where their head should be. It would obviously also be very unfair. Hell, the Infiltrators have a cloaking ability that one could feasibly mod to change it so that you see invisible people as bright purple or something stupid. Graphical mods can provide a big advantage as well, and this is just the obvious stuff I'm thinking of.
Of course, I do hope they get onto fixing a few things. The big thing I've seen is the lack of a colour-blind option, when one team is purple and the other blue. One of my mates sees purple as blue. I'm sure you can figure out the problem with that.
As for those of you saying graphical mods should still be allowed, I think I saw a few people answering this, but that's a really, really bad idea for an FPS game. As an example, I play Infiltrator (basically sniper, for those who haven't played) a lot. It sure would be helpful to be able to change the enemy skins to bright orange with a target where their head should be. It would obviously also be very unfair. Hell, the Infiltrators have a cloaking ability that one could feasibly mod to change it so that you see invisible people as bright purple or something stupid. Graphical mods can provide a big advantage as well, and this is just the obvious stuff I'm thinking of.
Of course, I do hope they get onto fixing a few things. The big thing I've seen is the lack of a colour-blind option, when one team is purple and the other blue. One of my mates sees purple as blue. I'm sure you can figure out the problem with that.
which is what any at least decent MMO has already done anyway.ZippyDSMlee said:
So i got a program that runs in the background and shows me statistics of my internet (speed im using at the moment, total up/down today ect) that runs on overlay over any fullscreen program. it sits in the corner and counts internet, but apperently ill be banned for this now.
actually, there are NO mods for eve online. all the programs are 3rd party programs that use eve API, but none of them actually change the client itself. client self-check itself for any changes and change back (ofc that can be tricked like any decent cheating tool used to do back when not all calcualtions were server-based in online gaming). API is great tool for offline information. but it does not actually mod the game.
thats how all mods work in all online games. noone else but you sees it.
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Usaully I would be all like "RAWR NO MODS? BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!" but in this case I actually kinda see their point and agree with it. It's a multiplayer only game for one so you are bound to affect someone and it's good if they can just get rid of all cheaters.
Seems fair enough to me - personally I want to play Planetside2, but with everyone on the same client, no mods to do this or that.
Even texture and model mods shouldn't be allowed unless every player has that same mod, server side mods might be the only fair way. I mean, say I'm allowed to edit textures and gun models and even FOV - I change the enemy textures to bright day-glo orange so I can see them easily, I change the gun to nothing but a crosshair (for no-scope shots), I change the FOV levels to expand my normal view, and increase my zoom view. Those are unfair advantages before even considering an external program mod.
Mods and hacks just annoy me... I played WarZ the other day, spawned and instantly got shot up, managed to slither away when 'whoever' got distracted by some Z's - then in pitch darkness a hacker starts sniping me in the next village. PVP in general is ruining WarZ, take away PVP, take away the desire to hack, and it'd be a better experience. We already have DayZ, a straightforward co-op survival game would be nice... trying to kill people by luring Z's to them would be hilarious.
Even texture and model mods shouldn't be allowed unless every player has that same mod, server side mods might be the only fair way. I mean, say I'm allowed to edit textures and gun models and even FOV - I change the enemy textures to bright day-glo orange so I can see them easily, I change the gun to nothing but a crosshair (for no-scope shots), I change the FOV levels to expand my normal view, and increase my zoom view. Those are unfair advantages before even considering an external program mod.
Mods and hacks just annoy me... I played WarZ the other day, spawned and instantly got shot up, managed to slither away when 'whoever' got distracted by some Z's - then in pitch darkness a hacker starts sniping me in the next village. PVP in general is ruining WarZ, take away PVP, take away the desire to hack, and it'd be a better experience. We already have DayZ, a straightforward co-op survival game would be nice... trying to kill people by luring Z's to them would be hilarious.
As someone currently playing Planetside 2, and enjoying it I might add, I'm completely behind SOE on this one. Nothing is more frustrating then getting picked off by aimbots or speedhackers when 99% of the players are trying to have legitimate fun and real battles. These "people" have decided that because of that all powerful K/D and cert requirements, they need to cheat.
Thats why its run through a cheat blocking client if the wrong code is detected it wont work, even more so if you set it up before the game starts and shows some of the textures,ect in the loading screen, since the loading screen stuff is locked and only reads from the mod file it can't be hacked in that way allowing no haxs to take place.Magichead said: