I never got on with soda as a kid. A good pineapple juice trumped anything Coke/Pepsi could bring out. The only time I even think about drinking soda is with Alcohol. And even then, I prefer juice.
Soft drink is the worst possible thing to be drinking
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....I stick to water and i have cut out Soda out of my body for ever, and as a bloody bad habit i picked up black coffee,water..and Guinness.
It's not that bad. I've been drinking two to three cans of soda (plus more when eating out at a restaurant) a day for pretty much my entire life. I weigh about 130 lbs and I'm 5'9". This is called really freaking skinny. I do believe the culprit here would be the protein shakes and supplements. They're designed to help you gain weight, which is what it appears to be doing.
I wouldn't go so far as to say alcohol is a less worse than soda. You can drink a 2-liter of soda in an hour and most you'd have is gas, plus you're still able to drive without impairment. Drinking 2-liters of liquor wouldn't be prudent in an hours time, definitely would preclude driving without impairment and give you probably more than gas. Some people would die if they consumed the same amount of alcohol in a day as they do soda. So... I don't know where you get off saying alcohol is better by comparison.DalekJaas said:
Spot1990 said:
Supersize me is hardly citable proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccdfzq2M1Ec
A big mac is barely 1.4K calories and its a damn goliath. Even if you supersize lunch, dinner and add desert, you'll still go well below 5k calories a day. Unless you eat big macs for every meal ( but that wouldn't be realistic for the sake of the experiment as you are supposed to be replicating how an unhealthy american eats, which isn't 2 big macs a day )
Two 355 mL of soda a day is an extra 280 calories coming solely from HFCS. If no other aspect of your daily routine was changed, aside from the two cans of soda a day, then you will gain weight. If you don't exercise more to compensate for the extra intake if high glycemic sugar, then you will naturally just put on fat.
As a soda drinker, my body is in relatively good shape though I do feel I need to cut my sugar intake as I'm getting closer to 40. However, you might want to take into account everyone's body is different and you aren't a normal soda drinker. So your body isn't used to using that type of energy source and probably is storing it away for future use. I'd also say its probably mostly water retention as fat buildup by sugar isn't that quick.DalekJaas said:
Also age is another factor. If you've just hit one of your 7 year marks or are within that period within 1-3 year plus or minus, your body will react differently to different things. Plus you're taking supplements and stacking protein, which sugar can replace easily as energy since sugar breaks down faster. Therefore you also might be storing the protein and/or supplements (no clue what supplements you're taking) as your energy source is now sugar fueled. Carbs take precedence and don't usually cause you to be fat, its what you eat around those carbs is usually what ends up stored as fat. So I'd say that since you already have the energy stores needed to fuel your daily routines, cut out the soda yes. But don't say that necessarily soda causes fat, rather changing your diet to something you don't use normally will cause a change in your physical makeup if you don't do something extra on top of that.
As I mentioned though, your body is different than others and will consequently react differently to different things. Thats why a blanket statement such as yours is a little bit biased and without any real evidence to the contrary without a nutritionist or doctor's consultation and evaluation added in. Just as my views and observations can be questioned because I claim to be neither of the formerly mentioned careers/degrees.
You say you drank 1-2 cans a day, so I just averaged it out to 1.5 cans of soda a day. A can of coke has about 140 calories, 140x1.5=210 extra calories a day. Over the course of 30 days that amounts to 6300 calories, and one pound of fat is equal to 3550 calories, so that means you would have gained about 1.75 pounds if were to believe your numbers. I'm sorry but I call bullshit, soda is bad for you but you cant gain the amount of weight the OP is claiming by adding 1-2 a day in just a month. Either he drank a lot more or his lifestyle changes where much more significant that he thinks.
Actually, that's not true. Genetics play a very important role in the biological basis for weight. Generally, it's considered to be at 50% of the factors.michael87cn said:
This has been proven through a variety of twin studies:
Stunkard, A. J., Foch, T. T., & Hrubec, Z. (1986). A twin study of human obesity. JAMA: the journal of the American Medical Association, 256(1), 51-54.
Plomin, R., Fries, J. C., McClearn, G.E., Rutter, M., & Rose, S. (1997). Behavioral genetics. Nature, 388(6638),138-139.
Schousboe, K., Visscher, P. M., Erbads, B., Kyvik, K. O., Hpper, J. L., Henrisken, J. E., and others (2004). Twin study of genetic and environmental influences on adult body size, shape, and composition. International Journal of Obesity, 28, 39-48.
All of these studies proved a strong correlation (0.74) between the identical twin's and their weight with regards to their biological parents, even when said identical twins lived in separate households. On the other hand, with regards to fraternal twins, there was a much lower correlation of 0.32, which went a long way to prove that adopted children often have a weak correlation with their adopted family with regards to body weight, despite sharing genes.
Maes, H. M., Neale, M. C., & Eaves, L. J. (1997). Genetic and environmental factors in relative body weight and human adiposity. Behavioral Genetics (special issue: The genetics of obesity), 27, 325-351.
Now, this doesn't mean that it's not how you live. How you live still factors into it, but so do genetics.
Worse then alcohol?
I doubt that, with alcohol you can die if you drink too much in a single session.
Even if you do drink a huge amount and DON'T die ... your brain cells are gonna pop like bubble wrap.
Soda ... well if you drink too much, sure you are gonna gain some pounds (Depending on the drink), have bad teeth and probably have some kidney stones waiting for you down the track, but it won't kill ya.
For myself I drink only a single can of Pepsi Max a day ... so far it has proven to be not bad for my health.
As long as I also do my exercise and fitness things.
Other then that I'm pretty great.
I drink it more then alcohol and I FEEEEL great.
Just don't drink too much and possibly swap to a sugar free version.
But I am not a chemist or someone who can tell you in detail more about this. :/
I doubt that, with alcohol you can die if you drink too much in a single session.
Even if you do drink a huge amount and DON'T die ... your brain cells are gonna pop like bubble wrap.
Soda ... well if you drink too much, sure you are gonna gain some pounds (Depending on the drink), have bad teeth and probably have some kidney stones waiting for you down the track, but it won't kill ya.
For myself I drink only a single can of Pepsi Max a day ... so far it has proven to be not bad for my health.
As long as I also do my exercise and fitness things.
Other then that I'm pretty great.
I drink it more then alcohol and I FEEEEL great.
Just don't drink too much and possibly swap to a sugar free version.
But I am not a chemist or someone who can tell you in detail more about this. :/
For reference, there are around 140 calories in a can of coke.
There are anything between 120 to 220 calories in the same amount of beer. So, it's kind of in the same ballpark on the weight gain department. Only your liver takes a beating from the latter.
One can of coke each day is about an increase of about 1000 calories each week.
An addition of 1000 calories/week to an otherwise unchanged diet/activity should lead to a weight gain of about 1 pound every 3.5 weeks, or 1 kilogram every 7 weeks to 2 months.
So, I find it unlikely that soft drinks are the only thing making you fat. Half a kilo on 100kilo body with regular workouts should not be as noticeable as you are describing.
There are anything between 120 to 220 calories in the same amount of beer. So, it's kind of in the same ballpark on the weight gain department. Only your liver takes a beating from the latter.
One can of coke each day is about an increase of about 1000 calories each week.
An addition of 1000 calories/week to an otherwise unchanged diet/activity should lead to a weight gain of about 1 pound every 3.5 weeks, or 1 kilogram every 7 weeks to 2 months.
So, I find it unlikely that soft drinks are the only thing making you fat. Half a kilo on 100kilo body with regular workouts should not be as noticeable as you are describing.