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Admiral Stukov

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FitScotGaymer said:
EDIT:
I should say that i posted this thread with a genuine confusion about the policy, and a genuine wish to have it explained to me.
Because as I have said I LIKE the LP section. And I would have considered paying the fee had someone been able to make a convincing and compelling arguement to me about SA, the pros of joining it, and a good explanation for the fee.

It was a genuine desire to understand, and perhaps have my mind changed.
Alright, I'll bite.
Why does it cost 10 bucks to join SA? Sure restricting posting to those who are prepared to pay for it is one aspect, but not the main one.
The real reason is that running an internet forum costs money. SA is just very blatant on the point where the money comes from.
Take this site; Publisher's Club - you pay a yearly fee (yearly, not one-time like on SA) to get High Quality videos, access to the PubClub subsection, to get rid of the ads on the page, and the captcha.

Paying for benefits, how unheard of.
In essence the PubClub over here is almost exactly the same thing as the registration fee at SA, the only differences being that while SA restricts all posting to non-paying people, Escapist only restricts posting on one part of the site. And the fact that you have to keep paying to keep the benefits.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer when it's more up front.

The thing that makes SA both good, and scary at first glance, is that essentially; being an idiot is a bannable offense. I'll admit, I spent years lurking SA before I paid the ten bucks, several months after I paid before posting.

So, why would one wish to join the goon hivemind?
Playing games with fellow goons:
I've had tons of fun playing Tribes Ascend with goons, and ask pretty much anyone that plays EVE about goonswarm.

Unrestricted access to LPs from the place that invented them:
This one's pretty self-explanatory, but to be honest, the only real difference between following an LP live on the forums compared to reading on on lparchive.org is the ability to give feedback. And the excruciating wait for updates.

An expansive knowledge database on games:
These days if I want information about a game, the first place I check is always the OP of that game's thread on SA. There's rarely a need for me to go to a second place.

Those three are the most general I can think of off the top of my head, beyond that it's highly individual what you see in that site. I for example consider their moderating team exceptional, but others might find them too harsh (mostly people who fail to read and/or understand the forum rules).

Lastly, I am in no way representative of "the typical goon", so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
And aside from the occasional periods where SA locks for non-goons, just wait a while, then resume lurking. SA have way more than quality Let's Plays to offer, and most of it is worth having a look at. A free look.
 

Stryc9

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FitScotGaymer said:
I just don't get it.
It wasnt locked before. I couldn't post but I could at least lurk n read the LPs... Now bugger all.
It's a thing that happens on there from time to time. It'll go back to normal eventually.
 

Comocat

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They used to have forums dedicated to pirating various things (porn, movies and music). I think the money was in part to keep the riff-raff out and also because they could.
 

Comocat

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Admiral Stukov said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Admiral Stukov said:
The 40k thread over there is much better than any dedicated 40k forum like Warseer or Dakka, and that's just sad.
Hey now, I'm having a blast on DakkaDakka picking apart fourteen year olds delusional attempts at writing fluff and thinking they will get paid for it.

I just avoid the TT Rules section and stick to Background, General and Fiction. Its the only parts that interest me anymore.
Oh, the 40k thread on SA also have fun picking 14 year olds fanfics about a primarch's son or whatever apart.

Comocat said:
They used to have forums dedicated to pirating various things (porn, movies and music). I think the money was in part to keep the riff-raff out and also because they could.
Oh look, another moron thinking that "SA is a den of pirates and thieves!"
Even admitting piracy is against the forum rules, not to mention enabling, like say giving advice about torrents, linking torrents, etc. That shit will get you thrown out faster than you can say "piratebay".
They used to have an entire section of the forum for stuff like that. I'm not passing judgement- its a fact on a thing that used to exist but no longer does. You didnt need to link anything because the users provided all the hosting, SA just facilitated it. Maybe it was before your time, this was after all maybe 8 years ago. I think the moron thing was uncalled for.
 

PurePareidolia

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I'm this close to actually signing up - I've been watching the Dangan Ronpa thread for a while and it's seriously great. In fact I've really enjoyed a lot of the LPs on there, and while it's just hard to justify paying, I have gotten more than $10 worth of entertainment form them already.
 

Mr.Pandah

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That's really unfortunate to hear. As an LP'er myself now, I was unaware that anyone would even bother paying for something like that. I wouldn't pay for a forum I'm unsure about. I pay for PubClub membership here simply because I like this website. I'm sure others feel the same way about this particular one you're speaking of.
 

Lalo Lomeli

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I have an account, I was really into the forum, the Lps, the Batman shameful secret and you could learn a lot, the 10 bucks and the bans were a way to keep the forums full of content.

But, I changed or they changed, or something, because it's just weak, boring and isolated, the funny threads were less funny, the ones that i cared i couldn't keep up with them, topics about weird news that day were banned.

Also, I was kind in a neurotic depression when it clicked with me, when I was getting out of it, and seeing things more brightly (thanks in no small part to my little pony), and they keep up, pony threads are banneable.

And it's a shame, there's a lot of awesome talented people there, but it's a pretty hateful place.

Edit: What the hell, i put my account again, and it seems i'll be losing a lot of time
 

PurePareidolia

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Lalo Lomeli said:
Also, I was kind in a neurotic depression when it clicked with me, when I was getting out of it, and seeing things more brightly (thanks in no small part to my little pony), and they keep up, being a bronie is a banneable offense, even when you only have a pony avatar and you don't mention it.
I've seen several people with pony avatars who don't seem to be banned, so I'm not sure it's that bad.
 

Lalo Lomeli

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PurePareidolia said:
I've seen several people with pony avatars who don't seem to be banned, so I'm not sure it's that bad.
I haven't been in the forum in two years, and yeah, I think I'm going to give it another chance.

The forum is pretty big, go were you want to see and talk of the things you like, and also had more than 10 dollars of entertainment from the place.
 

Soviet Heavy

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My only regret is that I haven't been able to keep up with the PYF safari cataloging the worst of the internet, be it bronies, weeaboos, social justice warriors, or other nutjobs.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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They've been doing this for ages. If you have to pay $10 for an account, it cuts down on the number of spam bots, etc.
 

DeadlyYellow

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Their site their rules.

For the LPs, I feel that if you don't want to pay then you don't have much reason to be there and might as well just wait until it's on an open host.
 

RufusMcLaser

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When Lowtax was speaking at the UIC many moons ago [www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gvo1uWAhHc], he said the $10 registration fee was a buff for the banhammer. The other tens of dollars are clearly a different story.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Just going to update things. They dropped the price gate. Like they always do. Put it up for a cuople weeks to get more members, then take it down again. You can go back to lurking.