Something I learned about PC gaming...

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Wobbleflops

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I started PC gaming back when i was about 15, on a god awful laptop.
I built my own computer at the age of 16 and since then, i've never looked back
It's easier to do, as you get more control with a keyboard and mouse, and, despite the intitial cost of buying a decent PC, it is definately cheaper, as you'll only have to upgrade certain parts every few years, rather than just buy an entirely new console !
As far as i could see, the only difference between the old 360 and the new 360 was the built in wireless, a bigger hdd and a new look.
You could easily upgrade a pc like that for about £60 ^_^
 

Kinguendo

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Mechsoap said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
I'm sorry, am I missing something? £700 for a gaming PC, and you're all nodding your heads sagely and agreeing wwith how cheap that is?

A new Xbox 360 with a 250 GB hardrive costs, on Argos.co.uk, £190. That's less than a third of what your PC cost you. A 250 GB PS3 costs £285 from Argos, and that comes with two free games. I'm honestly struggling to see what exaclty is cheap about the PC option.
a pc has more uses
Then you could always buy an average PC for looking at porn, using paint when you are bored, printing out CVs, googling your own name, whatever else you use a PC for and it still wouldnt come to £700.

If I had £700 lying around I might think about buying a good PC... but it isnt on the top of my list.
 

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You can also factor in the fact that if you can wait to play some games just a few months after the official release, there is a high probability for Steam or other DD services to have a sale or drop the price (not to mention PC games are less expensive in general). So yeah, the argument that PC gaming is expensive never had much ground.
 

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There's stuff to consider about both methods. I really like multiplayer console games (that is, to play with my actual friends who are there in the room with me and can be punched when they screw us)

The laptop I have is a $600 notebook I got for college and it doesn't run awesomely, but it does what I need it to. The games too heavy for it to handle are the ones I buy for console.

Fanboying over one platform and refusing to use any other is just a limitation. And there should be no limitation on fun.
 
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thefreeman0001 said:
i saw a mac worth 1600 quid in a shop today. i had a quiet laugh thinking about how my current pc cost half as much (or pretty close too) and was about 10 times more powerful!.
But you're not nearly as 'hip' and 'cool'. If you were to bring a PC into a Starbucks then nobody notices you and your mac :p
 

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MaxPowers666 said:
Nobody ever really said PC gaming is expensive its just more expensive then alternatives. The proof is in the numbers everybody has given in this thread.
Except the numbers that I gave here.

DeaconSawyer said:
Ok. I am a PC Gamer to the core. I spent 1000$ on this computer. 7 YEARS AGO! That's right, for 7 years, and only once 200$ for a new graphics card, I have been running games that span all consoles, all generations and on something that I needed anyway...too let's say...POST ON THESE FORUMS! Only recently did if have trouble with a game. Assassin's Creed 2. I could still run it, just not on highest. Alas. Besides that game made my friends PS3 lag too.

Subtract the cost of what I needed anyway, the higher cost of console games, and the cost of buying x-number of consoles and this is WAY cheaper.
I should note that that 1000$ is Canadian Dollars, not pounds or euros or anything like that.
 

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I agree with 100% of the OP said.
Ripoff companies like Alienware charge you out the ass for stuff that doesn't even cost that much....

"Alienware...because for only $500 more you can get that SECOND 7900GT!"
 

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Frag Leaf said:
The elitists have been spouting this for years.
Come now, let's not make this a PC v Console fight.
They all have their advantages, I was just trying to make a point. I've not met a PC gamer (well, a few) who I would call elitist. Mostly just gamers who want to put the effort into making their own game machine- and I respect that.
 

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MaxPowers666 said:
DeaconSawyer said:
MaxPowers666 said:
Nobody ever really said PC gaming is expensive its just more expensive then alternatives. The proof is in the numbers everybody has given in this thread.
Except the numbers that I gave here.

DeaconSawyer said:
Ok. I am a PC Gamer to the core. I spent 1000$ on this computer. 7 YEARS AGO! That's right, for 7 years, and only once 200$ for a new graphics card, I have been running games that span all consoles, all generations and on something that I needed anyway...too let's say...POST ON THESE FORUMS! Only recently did if have trouble with a game. Assassin's Creed 2. I could still run it, just not on highest. Alas. Besides that game made my friends PS3 lag too.

Subtract the cost of what I needed anyway, the higher cost of console games, and the cost of buying x-number of consoles and this is WAY cheaper.
The cost of your pc is $1200. The cost of my ps3 was $400 and my ps2 for $100, that brings my grand total for $500. So you have spend twice as much as me and my combination has actually lasted just as long if not longer. We are not talking games/tv/anything else since that is irrelevent and doesnt actually favor pc as much as people think. We are also not taking inflation into account since $1000 7 years ago is worth more then $1000 today.

Unless you cant do simple math then your numbers are alittle off. As for ac2 making the ps3 lag thats so wrong it just makes me laugh.
How much did you spend for your HDTV to go with the PS3?
 

migo

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Frag Leaf said:
ZombieGenesis said:
Frag Leaf said:
The elitists have been spouting this for years.
Come now, let's not make this a PC v Console fight.
They all have their advantages, I was just trying to make a point. I've not met a PC gamer (well, a few) who I would call elitist. Mostly just gamers who want to put the effort into making their own game machine- and I respect that.
I'm just saying this news is nothing new.
Everyone knows PC's don't cost much.
Quite the opposite, not many people do otherwise they wouldn't consistently spend so much on them.
 

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Yeah... I saved all my pennies and bought an Alienware for $2800. I've since gutted it and replaced every part (except the DVD drive and cooling system) for ~$800. And it's ten times better. AND IT'S IN AN ALIEN SHELL. AWESOME!
 

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MaxPowers666 said:
The cost of your pc is $1200. The cost of my ps3 was $400 and my ps2 for $100, that brings my grand total for $500. So you have spend twice as much as me and my combination has actually lasted just as long if not longer. We are not talking games/tv/anything else since that is irrelevent and doesnt actually favor pc as much as people think.
Yes, we ARE taking the TV into account. My monitor cost $200, and doubles as a TV. My parents' TV cost $3000.

Sooooo...
 

DeaconSawyer

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MaxPowers666 said:
DeaconSawyer said:
MaxPowers666 said:
Nobody ever really said PC gaming is expensive its just more expensive then alternatives. The proof is in the numbers everybody has given in this thread.
Except the numbers that I gave here.

DeaconSawyer said:
Ok. I am a PC Gamer to the core. I spent 1000$ on this computer. 7 YEARS AGO! That's right, for 7 years, and only once 200$ for a new graphics card, I have been running games that span all consoles, all generations and on something that I needed anyway...too let's say...POST ON THESE FORUMS! Only recently did if have trouble with a game. Assassin's Creed 2. I could still run it, just not on highest. Alas. Besides that game made my friends PS3 lag too.

Subtract the cost of what I needed anyway, the higher cost of console games, and the cost of buying x-number of consoles and this is WAY cheaper.
The cost of your pc is $1200. The cost of my ps3 was $400 and my ps2 for $100, that brings my grand total for $500. So you have spend twice as much as me and my combination has actually lasted just as long if not longer. We are not talking games/tv/anything else since that is irrelevent and doesnt actually favor pc as much as people think. We are also not taking inflation into account since $1000 7 years ago is worth more then $1000 today.

Unless you cant do simple math then your numbers are alittle off. As for ac2 making the ps3 lag thats so wrong it just makes me laugh.
Do the math on an ps2, ps3, xbox, xbox 360, accessories, and more expensive games. Subtract the cost of a standard computer, that you clearly have anyway.

Consider what you own and what games you are not capable of playing and so would need to buy other systems for. Since you need to buy games to make a console worth it I think they are relevant to cost. Basic math requires you to define your terms and variables before attempting the equation. The various console platforms and their generations and their games add up to a total cost higher than PC gaming. That is without paying attention to the fact that computers are pretty important anyway, but add that into the equation and it changes it even further.

Maybe you just love PS3 and really want to play FF, if that is the case PS2 and PS3 are the systems for you, but to buy all 4 consoles, (also consider many buy them new and the PS2 was NOT 100$ new) and the games for the consoles (which are relevant because console versions games always cost more) is less cost effective than a PC.

Also the inflation comment is pointless, because the hardware 7 years ago is incomparable to that of today, for PCs anyway. So how would you gage what something back then was worth according to today's standards? For 1000$ I expect to build another gaming rig that will last even longer.

Since I would have put about 500$, 7 years ago, into a new computer anyway, just for my work, it is only really 500$ toward the gaming aspect.

So you spend 500+ whatever you would have spent if it was brand new + lets say another 400 toward xbox stuff to get the same number of games the the PC gets + whatever else for controllers and other accessories. Add about 25% to all your game costs.

End result

Console Fan could easily spend 900 or 1000 on the consoles alone
+10-25% on games.
+money for a computer that you obviously have.

I spend 500 on a basic computer + 500 to upgrade into a gaming rig.

So even if you factor out the Xbox it costs as much, factor it in, consoles are more.

EDIT: Please Also see 2 posts lower here. I felt I should mention about my love of consoles.
 

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I should also at this point mention that I own several consoles, and have my computer hooked up to the HDTV that they use. I like consoles. I like the exclusive games, the controllers and the big fuck-off TVs. They are fun, and I dislike using my computer for gaming when friends are over. But I just take issue with people saying consoles are less expensive.
 

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When you take into account the fact that peripherals aren't proprietary products either made or licensed by a console developer when buying for PC, but 3rd party which means competitive pricing, this shaves off costs like £60 for a wifi adapter, £30 for a controller.

There's also free online so that shaves off £40 for a year of LIVE.

There's also the fact most PC games have free DLC, and there's all the free mods that add to the re-playability of your games, and the games are cheaper.

Sure a PC costs more at first, but in the long run it's cheaper, and less restrictive.

I built my system 3 years ago for £700 (and that includes the price of a monitor I bought separately), and it still will run any game. It runs Crysis on medium, which to be honest still looks better than any console game.

I'm all for console gaming, I indulge in console gaming a lot myself, I just get tired of the console fan(boy)base saying stupid stuff like "PC gaming is dying" and "PC gaming is too expensive" and "all PC gamers are piracy fags" and "PC gamers are elitist pricks" and such. It just shows their own stupidity and ignorance, and they wonder why some PC gamers have an elitist attitude...

Hint: It's directed purely at you morons! They're patronizing you!
 

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Karim Saad said:
I'd rather buy an Xbox for 250$ (gaming) and a P4 for 100$ (for everything else). Then again, I'm a cheap bastard and I don't get a stiffy for fmx3600FX3D7686 video cards or whatever they're called nowadays. Consoles can play the same games now and you don't have to sit at your desk with a ******* keyboard and mouse.
They are called HD 5770, they cost about 40% less than an Xbox and makes your games look a lot better than the Xbox. You are not really a cheap bastard by getting an 360.
 

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Money isn't the problem with PC gaming, it's the troubleshooting that turns me off of it. I buy to play, not to troubleshoot. If I buy a game and have to troubleshoot, that's annoying. If there's a problem that takes more than 2 days to fix, that's unacceptable, and I had to troubleshoot next to everything I bought for the PC.
 

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I always did wonder how the 5770 matched up to console integrated graphics. Apparently the 5750 is closer to what you'd get on the PS3, or at least that's what I heard on another forum.

I just wonder if my single GTX 470 and i7 930 CPU would play Metro 2033 without exploding :/