Something I've wondered about Dragon Ball

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Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
 

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Well as far as I know They are only called androids in the english dub, I believe in japanese thy are called Jinzōningen Jū Hachi Gō or Artificial Human. so they aren't actually called androids there anyway.
 

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Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
 
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I thought they wished Android 18 human or she was brought back to life as human or something.
Nope. The process was so extensive and far done that it was beyond even Shenron's power to undo. He instead just wishes for all the dangerous shit inside of her to be gone which was within his power.
...I wish DBZ was better written and consistent. Shenron cant turn a robot human? Fucking really?
Oh my gosh that's amazing.

"Bringing people back from the dead? No problem. Bring and entire planet's worth of people back? Not a problem. Create a pocket dimension where people from all timelines and dimensions and hell itself can come back for the martial arts tournament to end all martial arts tournaments? Sure thing. ...WHOA THERE SLICK, you want me to make a robot into a fleshy thing, no way no how, no can do that's impossible, man!" XD

(Ok, I grant that Dragonball Fusions isn't canon, and thus the "pocket dimension of all timelines" thing is moot, but still. XD)
 

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Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42HNvl0e26I

Krillin SHOULDN'T be. Tien has been hosed for a long time.
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
 

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Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
 

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mariosonicfan5 said:
Well as far as I know They are only called androids in the english dub, I believe in japanese thy are called Jinzōningen Jū Hachi Gō or Artificial Human. so they aren't actually called androids there anyway.
You're half right there. Jinzo Ningen means Artificial Human. Juhachi Gou means Number 18, like how Junana Gou means Number 17. Either way, they were probably just called androids for consistency's sake.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
mariosonicfan5 said:
Well as far as I know They are only called androids in the english dub, I believe in japanese thy are called Jinzōningen Jū Hachi Gō or Artificial Human. so they aren't actually called androids there anyway.
You're half right there. Jinzo Ningen means Artificial Human. Juhachi Gou means Number 18, like how Junana Gou means Number 17. Either way, they were probably just called androids for consistency's sake.
To be fair, Androids made sense because the first example of Android we see is from the original Dragon Ball: Android 8 who IS an artificial human (and looks like a Frankenstein's Monster), the guy becomes friendly and in fact is seen is Z is some cameos.



So the Android moniker made sense originally. Then the Cell Saga happened and suddenly there were human-turned robots (17, 18, 20) in greater number to non-human robots (8, 19) which made Android retroactively a poor name.
 

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xaszatm said:
DarklordKyo said:
mariosonicfan5 said:
Well as far as I know They are only called androids in the english dub, I believe in japanese thy are called Jinzōningen Jū Hachi Gō or Artificial Human. so they aren't actually called androids there anyway.
You're half right there. Jinzo Ningen means Artificial Human. Juhachi Gou means Number 18, like how Junana Gou means Number 17. Either way, they were probably just called androids for consistency's sake.
To be fair, Androids made sense because the first example of Android we see is from the original Dragon Ball: Android 8 who IS an artificial human (and looks like a Frankenstein's Monster), the guy becomes friendly and in fact is seen is Z is some cameos.

So the Android moniker made sense originally. Then the Cell Saga happened and suddenly there were human-turned robots (17, 18, 20) in greater number to non-human robots (8, 19) which made Android retroactively a poor name.
Well yeah, if you leave out Android 16.
 

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bluegate said:
xaszatm said:
DarklordKyo said:
mariosonicfan5 said:
Well as far as I know They are only called androids in the english dub, I believe in japanese thy are called Jinzōningen Jū Hachi Gō or Artificial Human. so they aren't actually called androids there anyway.
You're half right there. Jinzo Ningen means Artificial Human. Juhachi Gou means Number 18, like how Junana Gou means Number 17. Either way, they were probably just called androids for consistency's sake.
To be fair, Androids made sense because the first example of Android we see is from the original Dragon Ball: Android 8 who IS an artificial human (and looks like a Frankenstein's Monster), the guy becomes friendly and in fact is seen is Z is some cameos.

So the Android moniker made sense originally. Then the Cell Saga happened and suddenly there were human-turned robots (17, 18, 20) in greater number to non-human robots (8, 19) which made Android retroactively a poor name.
Well yeah, if you leave out Android 16.
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...I somehow totally forgot about him...In my defense, I never professed to being a huge DBZ fan, A Dragon Ball fan, yes, but not a DBZ fan.
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
Krillin did better then Tien atleast.

And yeah it was a weakness if Master Roshi hadnt overcome it he would of lost hard in the tournament against Universe 2 as they have several ladies in it. As for his martial arts he is being quite wise in it.
 

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Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
Krillin did better then Tien atleast.

And yeah it was a weakness if Master Roshi hadnt overcome it he would of lost hard in the tournament against Universe 2 as they have several ladies in it. As for his martial arts he is being quite wise in it.
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact that, despite being the show's butt monkey, Krillin used to be the most powerful of the human characters. Now that distinction, as well as the distinction of surpassing his old master has been stripped from him. It's no wonder I'm not a fan of this franchise anymore!
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
Krillin did better then Tien atleast.

And yeah it was a weakness if Master Roshi hadnt overcome it he would of lost hard in the tournament against Universe 2 as they have several ladies in it. As for his martial arts he is being quite wise in it.
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact that, despite being the show's butt monkey, Krillin used to be the most powerful of the human characters. Now that distinction, as well as the distinction of surpassing his old master has been stripped from him. It's no wonder I'm not a fan of this franchise anymore!
To be fair Krillin got cheap shotted by Frost and if anyone is to blame its 18 for not watching her husbands back when they where tag teaming.

The people Krillin took down tho was pretty cool and made a small nod to Dragon ball with krillin using smell to beat a blind fighter on his own.
 

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Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
Krillin did better then Tien atleast.

And yeah it was a weakness if Master Roshi hadnt overcome it he would of lost hard in the tournament against Universe 2 as they have several ladies in it. As for his martial arts he is being quite wise in it.
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact that, despite being the show's butt monkey, Krillin used to be the most powerful of the human characters. Now that distinction, as well as the distinction of surpassing his old master has been stripped from him. It's no wonder I'm not a fan of this franchise anymore!
To be fair Krillin got cheap shotted by Frost and if anyone is to blame its 18 for not watching her husbands back when they where tag teaming.

The people Krillin took down tho was pretty cool and made a small nod to Dragon ball with krillin using smell to beat a blind fighter on his own.
You're not really listening to me are you? I don't care what the circumstances were. Everything Krillin has done since training with Roshi way back in the original series, climbing Korin tower, having his true potential unlocked by Guru on Namek, means nothing because he still can't surpass Master fucking Roshi!
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
Krillin did better then Tien atleast.

And yeah it was a weakness if Master Roshi hadnt overcome it he would of lost hard in the tournament against Universe 2 as they have several ladies in it. As for his martial arts he is being quite wise in it.
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact that, despite being the show's butt monkey, Krillin used to be the most powerful of the human characters. Now that distinction, as well as the distinction of surpassing his old master has been stripped from him. It's no wonder I'm not a fan of this franchise anymore!
To be fair Krillin got cheap shotted by Frost and if anyone is to blame its 18 for not watching her husbands back when they where tag teaming.

The people Krillin took down tho was pretty cool and made a small nod to Dragon ball with krillin using smell to beat a blind fighter on his own.
You're not really listening to me are you? I don't care what the circumstances were. Everything Krillin has done since training with Roshi way back in the original series, climbing Korin tower, having his true potential unlocked by Guru on Namek, means nothing because he still can't surpass Master fucking Roshi!
When was it said that Krillin was weaker than Roshi
 

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He went out in the most recent tournament arc without taking anyone out. While Roshi got 3+.
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
FalloutJack said:
Well, if Krillin did it, she'd lose every fight. Now, her mother, on the other hand...
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
I haven't watched any of DB: Super so I wouldn't know. If that's true than I'm really disappointed.
Roshi had one of the best eps in super like he overcame his pervertedness and went serious for the tournament.
I never realized that that was actually a problem. Like yes Roshi was a perverted old man, but he could be a sagely martial arts master when he had to be. Besides my disappointment is more in what that means for Krillin.
Krillin did better then Tien atleast.

And yeah it was a weakness if Master Roshi hadnt overcome it he would of lost hard in the tournament against Universe 2 as they have several ladies in it. As for his martial arts he is being quite wise in it.
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact that, despite being the show's butt monkey, Krillin used to be the most powerful of the human characters. Now that distinction, as well as the distinction of surpassing his old master has been stripped from him. It's no wonder I'm not a fan of this franchise anymore!
To be fair Krillin got cheap shotted by Frost and if anyone is to blame its 18 for not watching her husbands back when they where tag teaming.

The people Krillin took down tho was pretty cool and made a small nod to Dragon ball with krillin using smell to beat a blind fighter on his own.
You're not really listening to me are you? I don't care what the circumstances were. Everything Krillin has done since training with Roshi way back in the original series, climbing Korin tower, having his true potential unlocked by Guru on Namek, means nothing because he still can't surpass Master fucking Roshi!
When was it said that Krillin was weaker than Roshi
Here:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
 

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Tarias said:
He went out in the most recent tournament arc without taking anyone out. While Roshi got 3+.
He took out that blind fox guy also again he was blind sided by Frost and one could argue Frost was stronger than Roshi's opponents(hell that princess chick was weak as all hell)

Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
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Not really a confirmation.
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Veldie said:
Canadamus Prime said:
Krillin is often the butt of jokes, but he is actually an extremely skilled martial artist and is the most powerful human character in the cast. It's just he's outclassed by all the non-human characters in the cast.
After this current arc it would seem Roshi is still stronger. Fucking amazing Roshi episode
Not really a confirmation.
Maybe not, but I'm too sick of DB to check for myself.