Songwriter M.I.A. Thinks Videogames Make Violence Easier
- Thread starter Tom Goldman
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You know, I do hope that killing does come easier to soldiers being shipped off. If we just send a bunch of p***ies over there, we'll get our asses kicked. If it came down to it, I would have no qualms with shooting another human being, if the choice to do otherwise possibly meant the cost of my life or someone close to me.
Yes, I disagree with that.Good morning blues said:
I was always saying that senseless violence is wrong and useless.
However, concentrated violence is like a tactical missile - good for everything, everywhere, every time. Or at least in 90% of the cases.
LIKE AGAINST PEOPLE SAYING THAT!! RAAWR!
I play Halo, but I think I have enough real-world experience to know that a bullet rocketing through your flesh would be bad, hurt a lot, possibly kill, and is something to be avoided....Good morning blues said:
Why do I need to know more than that? Are you suggesting that if I got shot and experienced it first hand that I would be less violent?
Yes, I disagree. As others, including the article author, notes: kids at a very young age can tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Not to mention that nobody's "only exposure to violence is through video games." Everyone has run into a bully in the school yard. Everyone has felt pain from a fall.Good morning blues said:
I would argue that the kids that run into trouble are the ones whose immediate family are violent, because they set a real world example that violence is a normal mode of communication. If your girlfriend makes you angry, you hit her, because that's what Dad always did.
I can't help but wonder if she was taken out of context. But regardless, I don't think typical FPS-style video games cause violence. In fact, I think they are very cathartic in terms of releasing aggression and tension. I know some people who are incredibly nice people, who will play a game like Halo or CoD to let off steam. I think there's enough of a distinction in feeling between FPS-style shooting in a game and shooting someone in real life.
I'm getting a little bit confused. One minute "videogames are bad because they simulate real world violence and kids will copy it!", now it's "videogames don't depict violence realistically and kids won't see how real life violence is through them... which is also bad!"
Basically "games can't do anything but bad, corrupt the children, whether they're about the Iraq war, stealing cars or jumping on hills made of mushrooms."
Here's a crazy idea, maybe kids shouldn't be exposed to violence in real life, and having games to take out their frustrations on may in fact be a healthy way to deal with aggression without resorting to hurting anyone/thing. Maybe if you didn't write songs about guns and stealing money, and make videos about ginger genocide, you'd be a more credible critic.
Basically "games can't do anything but bad, corrupt the children, whether they're about the Iraq war, stealing cars or jumping on hills made of mushrooms."
Here's a crazy idea, maybe kids shouldn't be exposed to violence in real life, and having games to take out their frustrations on may in fact be a healthy way to deal with aggression without resorting to hurting anyone/thing. Maybe if you didn't write songs about guns and stealing money, and make videos about ginger genocide, you'd be a more credible critic.
The funny thing is, she comes from the place I live, one of the most unknown places in the planet. And no-one here really knows her either. If I happen to see her around I'll let her know exactly what we think about her...Abedeus said:
Fair enough, that actually sounds somewhat reasonable. I mean, most kids can tell the difference between real life and fantasy, but it may subconsciously give them that idea. What's so wrong with this...Tom Goldman said:
Wait, how the fuck do you make that conclusion? Kids don't understand violence, so they automatically use it? There's a difference between a person who realizes they don't understand violence, but know it's bad and don't use it, than those who think violence in video games is just like violence in real life.Tom Goldman said:
Wow, a character says the same thing is this screenplay-like thing I'm writing, only he's a Satanist that complains that videogames make magic look easy...
what a *****, just because nobody gives a shit about you and your music does not mean that you get to badmouth my favorite hobby. im pretty sure that those kids going to afghanistan VOLUNTEERED and they are getting PAID by their COUNTRY to go fight. and im also pretty sure people shooting at you makes it easier to shoot back. so fuck you
I really don't understand what you're saying here; you say that you disagree, and then start talking about something completely different. Did you misread my post, or am I just not getting what you're saying?Abedeus said:
danpascooch said:
The problem isn't that you will commit real-world violence; the problem is that you will be more permissive of real-world violence. If we are only ever exposed to Halo, Call of Duty, Hollywood action movies, and Tom Clancy novels, that absolutely does have an impact on how willing we are to allow our governments to spend trillions on our militaries and to use political violence. If we don't understand what violence is really like, we don't have nearly as much of a problem with other people in the real world employing violence.Kojiro ftt said:
When we read a new Tom Clancy novel or watch a movie like Avatar, we see all of the military technology and we think "that's awesome." It is those sorts of opinions that allow our governments to justify the spending that underwrites political violence all over the world.
