Sony CEO: "Free" PSN Wasn't a Likely Target

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Dexiro

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The DDOS of Sony by Anon was actually kind of noble, they had good intentions. The security breach however is a major dickmove. Whoever's hacking Sony is gaining no friends.

Also on the whole Linux topic. I swear noone gave a fuck about that thing until it was taken away, people are acting like kids over it. The removal of a feature that barely anyone used in return for higher security, to stop hacks like THIS happening, is totally worth it.
 

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JimbobDa3rd said:
You must be a troll. It doesnt matter how small a minority is running linux on the console, they are still out there. And just because previous gens didnt need an otherOS feature doesnt make it something that this gen can take away after offering it. Your overall your argument just seems inflamitory and selfish taken out of hate against a small number of people with so many holes in it that the only conclusion I can take is that you are a troll (or just very stupid).
I'm not even going to give you the pleasure of a proper response, I honestly don't have the time. Put simply, I'm certainly not a troll, I hate 4chan and a whole lot of bland crap its spawned. I don't care what you think, I'm standing by my view, please have some common sense and grow up.

Dexiro said:
Also on the whole Linux topic. I swear noone gave a fuck about that thing until it was taken away, people are acting like kids over it. The removal of a feature that barely anyone used in return for higher security, to stop hacks like THIS happening, is totally worth it.
For the record, this. No one even cared to mention anything about Linux on the PS3 UNTIL it was removed. People are just butthurt because they lost a very minor feature of a SYSTEM THAT PLAYS VIDEO GAMES AND BLURAY MOVIES. Why the fuck would you even NEED Linux on it?

Fuck..
 

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MattAn24 said:
JimbobDa3rd said:
You must be a troll. It doesnt matter how small a minority is running linux on the console, they are still out there. And just because previous gens didnt need an otherOS feature doesnt make it something that this gen can take away after offering it. Your overall your argument just seems inflamitory and selfish taken out of hate against a small number of people with so many holes in it that the only conclusion I can take is that you are a troll (or just very stupid).
I'm not even going to give you the pleasure of a proper response, I honestly don't have the time. Put simply, I'm certainly not a troll, I hate 4chan and a whole lot of bland crap its spawned. I don't care what you think, I'm standing by my view, please have some common sense and grow up.

For the record, this. No one even cared to mention anything about Linux on the PS3 UNTIL it was removed. People are just butthurt because they lost a very minor feature of a SYSTEM THAT PLAYS VIDEO GAMES AND BLURAY MOVIES. Why the fuck would you even NEED Linux on it?

Fuck..
There are trolls everywhere on the internet, not just 4chan(I personaly agree that its a pile of rubbish on a image bored and havent ever really even seen the point) and sadly the escapist is not exempt from them.

OT(or at least on discussion)- YOU use the system for video games and movies YOU dont need linux (or any other OS) on it. The people YOU talked to never spoke about it. It doesnt mean that there wernt people out there using it as a cheap way of buying hardware for whatever they needed it for (the largest example of course being the US military?s super computer). Its a minor feature to most people, including me. But that doesnt mean I wont support the right for those who did want to use it not to have it taken away (NB the PSN incident had nothing to do with any of this, that was just identity theft which happened to be through the PSN, so I am in no way condoning the actions of hackers)
Also I would appreciate if you (the person who is spouting language and anger whilst refusing to engage in any real debate which opposes what you believe) would refrain yourself from assuming from less than a paragraph that I need to "grow up"
 

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jackpipsam said:
Sony had this coming and now it happened maybe they will treat there customers with a bit more respect
But did all the people who use PSN and the PlayStation Store have this coming? These jerks want to hurt Sony that's one thing but they decided to do something that is affecting far more than their target. All I want is one stinking game off of the PS Store and I can't get it because these butthurt hackers. I blame them and only them for this and wish for swift justice.
 

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Dexiro said:
The DDOS of Sony by Anon was actually kind of noble, they had good intentions. The security breach however is a major dickmove. Whoever's hacking Sony is gaining no friends.

Also on the whole Linux topic. I swear noone gave a fuck about that thing until it was taken away, people are acting like kids over it. The removal of a feature that barely anyone used in return for higher security, to stop hacks like THIS happening, is totally worth it.
I can name 5 people that I know, all programmers, who were extremely pissed just this second (yes I know poor sample size but bear with me). Think of how many programmers around the world bought a PS3 purely to see what the cell processor can do, and learn a bit about different computer architectures.

On top of that, it's not childish to be pissed off about a company removing an advertised feature from a console, or restricting what the user is allowed to do with the hardware they bought. It's not childish to have a sense of consumer rights, something more consumers should have, as then maybe companies wouldn't pull this shit.

As for "higher security to stop hacks like this happening", well guess what, they did happen. Fail.
You seriously think it was an extra security measure for their network? Nope. It was an anti piracy measure and nothing more. Yet another case of companies being dicks to their legitimate consumers to prevent piracy.
 

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JimbobDa3rd said:
There are trolls everywhere on the internet, not just 4chan(I personaly agree that its a pile of rubbish on a image bored and havent ever really even seen the point) and sadly the escapist is not exempt from them.

OT(or at least on discussion)- YOU use the system for video games and movies YOU dont need linux (or any other OS) on it. The people YOU talked to never spoke about it. It doesnt mean that there wernt people out there using it as a cheap way of buying hardware for whatever they needed it for (the largest example of course being the US military?s super computer). Its a minor feature to most people, including me. But that doesnt mean I wont support the right for those who did want to use it not to have it taken away (NB the PSN incident had nothing to do with any of this, that was just identity theft which happened to be through the PSN, so I am in no way condoning the actions of hackers)
Also I would appreciate if you (the person who is spouting language and anger whilst refusing to engage in any real debate which opposes what you believe) would refrain yourself from assuming from less than a paragraph that I need to "grow up"
Granted, you make several valid points. I sincerely apologize for my reaction.

Funny note.. I don't even own a PS3. I own a PSP (that totally counts, right? lolPSN..)

Honestly, I don't understand the "Linux on PS3 is much cheaper than a PC".. If you're only using Linux, why not just get a basic PC with somewhat decent specs to run Linux? They're not that expensive, at least not in Australia.. :3 The PS3 is STUPIDLY expensive. Hell, it's the main reason I don't have one. That, and I don't really care for most of the exclusives (until FF:Versus XIII and to a similar extent Kingdom Hearts 3 GOD DAMNIT SQUEENIX TAKE MY MONEY WANT GAME NAO PLOX!!111!1 ...Ahem, sorry.)

It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, y'know? Especially when I've seen other options.. I've always seen it as "Is it a piece of hardware in the shape of a brick that plays mah vidja gaymz? Then it is most likely a video game console (and is safe [CheckPoint reference~])
 

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MattAn24 said:
JimbobDa3rd said:
There are trolls everywhere on the internet, not just 4chan(I personaly agree that its a pile of rubbish on a image bored and havent ever really even seen the point) and sadly the escapist is not exempt from them.

OT(or at least on discussion)- YOU use the system for video games and movies YOU dont need linux (or any other OS) on it. The people YOU talked to never spoke about it. It doesnt mean that there wernt people out there using it as a cheap way of buying hardware for whatever they needed it for (the largest example of course being the US military?s super computer). Its a minor feature to most people, including me. But that doesnt mean I wont support the right for those who did want to use it not to have it taken away (NB the PSN incident had nothing to do with any of this, that was just identity theft which happened to be through the PSN, so I am in no way condoning the actions of hackers)
Also I would appreciate if you (the person who is spouting language and anger whilst refusing to engage in any real debate which opposes what you believe) would refrain yourself from assuming from less than a paragraph that I need to "grow up"
Granted, you make several valid points. I sincerely apologize for my reaction.

Funny note.. I don't even own a PS3. I own a PSP (that totally counts, right? lolPSN..)

Honestly, I don't understand the "Linux on PS3 is much cheaper than a PC".. If you're only using Linux, why not just get a basic PC with somewhat decent specs to run Linux? They're not that expensive, at least not in Australia.. :3 The PS3 is STUPIDLY expensive. Hell, it's the main reason I don't have one. That, and I don't really care for most of the exclusives (until FF:Versus XIII and to a similar extent Kingdom Hearts 3 GOD DAMNIT SQUEENIX TAKE MY MONEY WANT GAME NAO PLOX!!111!1 ...Ahem, sorry.)

It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, y'know? Especially when I've seen other options.. I've always seen it as "Is it a piece of hardware in the shape of a brick that plays mah vidja gaymz? Then it is most likely a video game console (and is safe [CheckPoint reference~])
I dont actualy own a PS3 either (though my flatmate does and I use it to play the PS exclusives)

Now adays I would agree if you were wanting a linux computer you could probs buy the hardware and self assemble for cheaper (and if your the type of person who installs linux on things then chances are you know your way around computer assembly and exactly what you want), but remeber the PS3 is from 2006 and at that time a 3 Ghz (Im doing this from memory so the actualy specs may be a bit off) processor and 500mb RAM (with a nice GPU aswell)for less then £500 was pretty cheap.

I do get where you are coming from aswell, I just dont get why sony took it away, hackers will still hack, pirates will still pirate, the only valid reason imo is if the OtherOS options was somehow messing with game developers or game engines so it had to be disabled but if that was the case I think Sony would have just said it.

In anycase the I doubt sony will bring it back, they had their reasons, and they are not any more or less guilty then any other gameing companies (or any companies for that matter) for the actions they take being motivated only by money. Ive concluded (especially over the past year and a bit) that game companies and devs are kinda like political parties, there arnt any truely good ones, there are only less bad ones and as greedy and self motivated as they all are having them around is still preferable to not, so just sit bak and try to make the best out of it.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
...I don't get it. When people say 'You can't do this' or 'This is impossible', I don't get an uncontrollable urge to do it anyway/prove them wrong...
So you've never touched the plate?

It's probably the simplest and easiest example of impulse control. You go to a restaurant, order your food, and the waitress comes around with your order and tells you "The plate is very hot, so don't touch it.
 

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DeadlyYellow said:
Kopikatsu said:
...I don't get it. When people say 'You can't do this' or 'This is impossible', I don't get an uncontrollable urge to do it anyway/prove them wrong...
So you've never touched the plate?

It's probably the simplest and easiest example of impulse control. You go to a restaurant, order your food, and the waitress comes around with your order and tells you "The plate is very hot, so don't touch it.
I've never been told that. o_O

But if I was, I probably wouldn't if only because I hate hot things. I'll order pizza then throw it in the refrigerator for a few hours before eating it. COLD IS LOVE!