Sony Considers Face-Melt Edits for Rogen's North Korea Comedy

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Cant stand Rogen. But the film does sound like fun. Though if they do cut anything then im not going to watch it. I just think the cuts they make will be the best parts of the movie.
 

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Until Un started getting angry over this, I was just going to bursh it off as another stupid comedy film with Seth Rogan (although, I'll admit I liked the premise). Now, thanks to the way they are acting, I'm actually curious to see the film because of their outrage.

It's also got me wondering if Kim Jong Il had anything to say over 'Team America: World Police' portrayal of Il with all the rage Un is showing over this film? Okay, probably not, but I am curious about this.
 

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Honestly right now I would like for this film get release in its truest form (no edit or censor) just to see if Kim Jong would really have an all wage out war over a film!
 

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Scarim Coral said:
Honestly right now I would like for this film get release in its truest form (no edit or censor) just to see if Kim Jong would really have an all wage out war over a film!
Because war is fun and games... *rolls his eyes*
 

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Demagogue said:
Scarim Coral said:
Honestly right now I would like for this film get release in its truest form (no edit or censor) just to see if Kim Jong would really have an all wage out war over a film!
Because war is fun and games... *rolls his eyes*
No (duh I was kidding), I just find the idea itself to be ridiculous as in if he was that up tight over it.
 

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I think this is pure bullshit. They should have kept the movie as is. This is only going to make North Korea think(and maybe have) that they have a real influence on our society.

Demagogue said:
To all the people claiming freedom of speech... first off, that is an American right, not a world right. Rogen wants to spew that kind of stuff, then go nuts. Limited to the US or other nations with Free Speech (Canada, UK, etc)

Secondly, I'm sure a good chunk of the people claiming freedom of speech for Rogen are opposed to freedom of speech for things like this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/robin-williams-dead-westboro-baptist-church-could-picket-actors-funeral-after-saying-he-was-hated-by-god-and-is-in-hell-9665392.html Where the infamous Westboro church spreads it cries of god hating gays, and divorce and other things.

Just because you agree something should be said doesn't make it right, it makes your opinion inline with the speakers. There is a huge difference.




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I really don't see what this has to do with anything. Are are we not allowed to make a statement if foreigners do not like it?
 

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Nikolaz72 said:
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Sony are also within their rights to change the movie. Which they likely will.

I'm reminded of this one Christian dude that decided to burn Korans in his garden and make a big fuss of it resulting in the deaths of a dozen or so people.

People are crazy, you have free speech. There is no need to needlessly provoke crazy people into violent actions just because you 'can'.
It looks as though one of you is arguing the movie should not exist, and one of you is arguing the movie should be ABLE to exist. You guys aren't necessarily disagreeing.

If I'm an editor and a man submits an article that's just 4,000 words claiming a gay man killed Santa Claus and has been financing the war on Christmas as part of the homosexual agenda, there's a vast gap between "This should be impossible to publish" and "I refuse to publish this and can't be friends with anyone who would."
 

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Oh, don't give in to pressure. That's spineless and cowardly. Go tell them where to stick it and be done with it.
 

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As much as I think North Korea is a terrible country, I really don't think that they are too out of line in asking for this movie to be canned. Do you think that anyone in the states would tolerate a movie where a group kills Obama (aside from racist white supremacists) It would get shutdown instantly.

At the same time, I really want to see this movie, I love Seth Rogen, it seems like a good premise, and I really hope they don't need to edit it down.
 

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Demagogue said:
To all the people claiming freedom of speech... first off, that is an American right, not a world right. Rogen wants to spew that kind of stuff, then go nuts. Limited to the US or other nations with Free Speech (Canada, UK, etc)

Secondly, I'm sure a good chunk of the people claiming freedom of speech for Rogen are opposed to freedom of speech for things like this: http://w
ww.independent.co.uk/news/people/robin-williams-dead-westboro-baptist-church-could-picket-actors-funeral-after-saying-he-was-hated-by-god-and-is-in-hell-9665392.html Where the infamous Westboro church spreads it cries of god hating gays, and divorce and other things.
Firs of all posting from phone so excuse the formatting.

Freedom of speech is actually recognized human right by UN. The american first amendment that is often refered as freedom of speech is actually only covdring part of the whole freedom of speech.

Secondly, as you could find in my posting history, i have repeatedly defended peoples right to freedom of speech even if i dont like what they say. Including, but not limited to westro baptist church, jim stelings racist remarks (no not our jim sterling, another one) and rock turtles pr guy. I support it so much as to not buy products from people who want to force them quiet, bdcause i believe in your right to say what you think even if i dont agree with you. After all, this is esential part of democracy, because censorship you competition leads to single-party systems.
 

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Strazdas said:
Freedom of speech is actually recognized human right by UN. The american first amendment that is often refered as freedom of speech is actually only covdring part of the whole freedom of speech.

Secondly, as you could find in my posting history, i have repeatedly defended peoples right to freedom of speech even if i dont like what they say. Including, but not limited to westro baptist church, jim stelings racist remarks (no not our jim sterling, another one) and rock turtles pr guy. I support it so much as to not buy products from people who want to force them quiet, bdcause i believe in your right to say what you think even if i dont agree with you. After all, this is esential part of democracy, because censorship you competition leads to single-party systems.
okay your phone made that fun to read... lol, but I got the gist of it.

I'm going to assume you are referring to this article:
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Which I agree gives Rogen the 'right' to make the movie... HOWEVER,

Article 30.
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
AKA, Your rights end when they impede/destroy any of the other rights. Putting aside the fact that NK definitely doesn't follow these, they technically are a member state and are afforded the same protection from them. Which in that case...


Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
(source: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/)


I would be 100% okay with the movie if they made a character that looked like him, and gave him another name, but they didn't. They are using his name, and the official buttons of their army (to be changed apparently), they are making a movie about killing him. Yes, it is a parody, but it doesn't matter.

Yes, he does the same thing, in their propaganda films. Those aren't produced and released to a world stage to make a profit.

You know how most movies put that little thing at the end that says any resemblance of actual people or events are not intentional, please don't sue us. (I'm paraphrasing) Rogen CAN'T do that with this movie... because he is making a movie about killing a real person.
 

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Demagogue said:
Yes, it is a parody, but it doesn't matter.
It does. precisely because its a comedy. Its the same exception as the caricature artists can paint real people (for example politicians) in variuos situations. Creating a parody is different than claiming that that person is like that. Hence the film does not impede NKs rights, thus Rogen retains his right to freedom of speech. That being said, Sony also has their right to not publish it in the form Rogen wants, and Rogen has a right to take his movie elsewhere barring contract obligation.

However Sony is know to be a coward when it comes to public opinion. See 7 Days in Fallujah history for an example.