Sony Executive Calls For Always-On Media Players

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Something Amyss

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rob_simple said:
BD was also progressively more restrictive system, and it helped push HDCP into being a mainstay. This is one of the reasons it had so much studio support: BD was more restrictive than the protocols for HD-DVD. This was kind of a big deal.
But did it affect me, as a consumer? I've never had a problem playing a Blu-Ray in a device, from the little bit I just read on HDCP it just seems to affect people trying to copy Blu-Rays, and I can't really argue with companies protecting their product so long as it doesn't affect me.

As soon as it becomes intrusive, like video games that constantly ask me to redeem my online code even though I bought the game new but still have no interest in playing online, or this new notion that always-online is the best, then I'd start looking for alternatives.

Maybe I'm just burying my head in the sand, but I genuinely don't see what's wrong with the restrictions placed on Blu-Rays, especially when compared to a device that wants you to check in constantly and all the other Big Brother stuff they can pull while you're connected to the internets.[/quote]

I suppose if you mean it didn't affect you personally, then no, it didn't. But I don't know which you mean. It's been obtrusive for a lot of people who didn't have HDCP setups. This is now going to be an issue for both of the next gen consoles (I don't count the Wii U as Next Gen), so it could well impact you in a year or two (if you're a console user, again, I don't know). The necessity to update to play latest firmware also has run into issues and already serves as a form of online DRM. If you're a PS3 user, you've already experienced it even if you're not using it as a BD player, because they're merged the two things.

So honestly, your mileage may vary. However, your support of BD has paved the way for this exact sort of thing. And if you're cool with that, that's fine. It's just strange to see people outraged when we've been slowly watching out control slip out of our fingers.
 

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SlightlyEvil said:
This Sony executive will soon be seen at a press conference retracting his comments, with several bruises on his face.
No no no...this is JAPAN. If we ever see him again, it's with a sword lodged in his gut.

Suffice to say, I'm sure ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will go wrong here! (WAH HAH HAAAH!!!)
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
rob_simple said:
But did it affect me, as a consumer? I've never had a problem playing a Blu-Ray in a device, from the little bit I just read on HDCP it just seems to affect people trying to copy Blu-Rays, and I can't really argue with companies protecting their product so long as it doesn't affect me.

As soon as it becomes intrusive, like video games that constantly ask me to redeem my online code even though I bought the game new but still have no interest in playing online, or this new notion that always-online is the best, then I'd start looking for alternatives.

Maybe I'm just burying my head in the sand, but I genuinely don't see what's wrong with the restrictions placed on Blu-Rays, especially when compared to a device that wants you to check in constantly and all the other Big Brother stuff they can pull while you're connected to the internets.
I suppose if you mean it didn't affect you personally, then no, it didn't. But I don't know which you mean. It's been obtrusive for a lot of people who didn't have HDCP setups. This is now going to be an issue for both of the next gen consoles (I don't count the Wii U as Next Gen), so it could well impact you in a year or two (if you're a console user, again, I don't know). The necessity to update to play latest firmware also has run into issues and already serves as a form of online DRM. If you're a PS3 user, you've already experienced it even if you're not using it as a BD player, because they're merged the two things.

So honestly, your mileage may vary. However, your support of BD has paved the way for this exact sort of thing. And if you're cool with that, that's fine. It's just strange to see people outraged when we've been slowly watching out control slip out of our fingers.
No, I was just curious how Blu Ray affected the consumer in general. I know it's a dick move to say 'I've not had any problems, so it must not be an issue' but I've been using my PS3 as a Blu Ray player for a few years now without incident.

I just like to try and stay up to date with what I should be avoiding/wary of.
 

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rob_simple said:
No, I was just curious how Blu Ray affected the consumer in general. I know it's a dick move to say 'I've not had any problems, so it must not be an issue' but I've been using my PS3 as a Blu Ray player for a few years now without incident.

I just like to try and stay up to date with what I should be avoiding/wary of.
Fair enough. I hedged my bets and tried to address it both ways.

BD still isn't as bad, but it's the precursor. Kind of like Bob Dole paving the way for a race of crotchety aliens with erectile dysfunction.
 

vallorn

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Sony sony sony... Why cant the various arms of your company talk to one another? I'm pretty sure the playstation arm would have said "STOP NO THIS IS THE WORST TIME TO SAY THIS!" or something...
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thaluikhain said:
Yeah, let me be the first to say that this won't work, unless it was designed to annoy consumers or somesuch.
This, I guess this guy didn't hear about the Horus Heresy level shitstorm that kicked off when Microsoft pulled this stunt.

Well I guess I'm glad I just use my game console as a dvd player these days. I swear does anyone pay the fuck attention in these companies anymore?
I think Microsoft keep trying to storm the Cadian Gate... I know it's a tortured analogy but they do keep trying to sell chaos to their audience... And of coourse they do have co conspiritors in their fanboys.
 

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For a guy advocating Always-On he doesn't seem to have been online at all, or even have read any recent news articles related to Sony.

"Sorry, my always-on required computer was broken and I thought the internet had a global shutdown. So I hadn't heard about the Xbone. My bad guys."
 

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Hahaha, I knew it was only a matter of time before they figured out a way to crack down on illegally downloaded media. But with tablets and consoles and computers, what future does the traditional disk-only reader even have? Especially if it goes that route?