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Sony Fund Indie Developers


In an effort to secure more exclusive downloadable content for PSN, Sony are offering to help pay for the development.

In recent months Microsoft have pulled off a number of coups with downloadable content, as the GTAIV expansion The Lost and the Damned and both of the Fallout 3 expansions have been Microsoft exclusives. But Sony isn't the sort of company to just take that lying down, and have announced a new initiative that should help bring high-quality downloadable content to PSN.

Under the scheme, known as the Pub Fund, Sony would match the budget of the developer and assist in marketing and design, but the IP and any royalties would still belong to the developer. Sony seem to be reluctant to discuss the fine details of the scheme, which isn't exactly surprising, but it's great to see Sony supporting independent developers in this way.

The first game to be released under the scheme is Doublesix's Burn Zombie Burn, which was released on PSN on Thursday to respectable reviews.

Source: Edge [http://www.edge-online.com/news/104/sony-offers-dev-support-fund]



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Jumplion

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(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
 

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BudZer said:
Jumplion said:
(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
Not partially, they cover the entire budget if it remains exclusive.
*whistles*, shit that's a big promise. No doubt there's some catch to this, but still, they cover the entire buget?
 

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Onmi said:
Jumplion said:
BudZer said:
Jumplion said:
(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
Not partially, they cover the entire budget if it remains exclusive.
*whistles*, shit that's a big promise. No doubt there's some catch to this, but still, they cover the entire buget?
Seems like a good deal to go exclusive, Microsoft says sure keep this DLC exclusive instead of earning it on 3 platforms. Sony says we will pay the budget for you to MAKE your game if you only release it here.

I'm just wondering how this will affect the sony budget
There has to be a catch to it, like we'll pay your budget unil it goes past a certain limit or something. After all, they don't want to talk about the specifics.
 

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If this is as it seems, and if the indi community take to it I can very clearly see playstation 3 becoming the prefered console for 'hardcore' gamers, could definately boost console sales significantly as well. Brilliant move by sony.
 

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Dys said:
If this is as it seems, and if the indie community take to it I can very clearly see Playstation 3 becoming the preferred console for 'hardcore' gamers, could definitely boost console sales significantly as well. Brilliant move by Sony.
Sony, your cynicism continues to serve you well.

It is probably a ploy towards the "hardcore" demographic, backed up by the hardware in the Playstation 3.
 

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Jumplion said:
BudZer said:
Jumplion said:
(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
Not partially, they cover the entire budget if it remains exclusive.
*whistles*, shit that's a big promise. No doubt there's some catch to this, but still, they cover the entire buget?
Um, no, they match the budget. Effectively they pay for half of the development.
 

Jumplion

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nilcypher said:
Jumplion said:
BudZer said:
Jumplion said:
(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
Not partially, they cover the entire budget if it remains exclusive.
*whistles*, shit that's a big promise. No doubt there's some catch to this, but still, they cover the entire buget?
Um, no, they match the budget. Effectively they pay for half of the development.
A'ight, thanks for clearing that up. Damn you BudZer, you have lied to me! *shakes fist*
 

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Jumplion said:
Onmi said:
Jumplion said:
BudZer said:
Jumplion said:
(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
Not partially, they cover the entire budget if it remains exclusive.
*whistles*, shit that's a big promise. No doubt there's some catch to this, but still, they cover the entire buget?
Seems like a good deal to go exclusive, Microsoft says sure keep this DLC exclusive instead of earning it on 3 platforms. Sony says we will pay the budget for you to MAKE your game if you only release it here.

I'm just wondering how this will affect the sony budget
There has to be a catch to it, like we'll pay your budget unil it goes past a certain limit or something. After all, they don't want to talk about the specifics.
The catch is it has to be developed on the PS3.
 

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Awesome, this seems to be a good move. They already have AAA PSN titles, this should only ensure a new influx of new ones.
 

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Jumplion said:
(correct me if I'm wrong on this) So basically Sony are paying partially for indie developer's budget?

Cool :D
I approve of this too.
Since this is happening I wonder how awesome the next game that "that game company" makes is.
 

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Zeeky_Santos said:
the later is easier for a thuggish loser like you to understand because there are really three defining components to look at in a system.
Much as it pains me to side with Indigo on anything, that line, especially written like that, aimed at the perfectly literate Sony hound is almost funny.

We get that you have different opinions, we all know Indigo's a fanboy, but thus far you are the bigger dick in this argument.

On topic, this does seem to be a really good idea, although I've got a couple of worries. Firstly, what it'll do to Sony's profit - I mean, Indie games are on the whole pretty low cost, but if there's an offer to match your budget, then we may start seeing a whole lot more Braid level costs.

Secondly, I can't help but feel mildly afraid of Spore cuteness-revamp syndrome. How far will "assist in marketing and design" go?
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
One of the lowest quality fanboy rants I've ever seen
Grammar. Learn to use it. There is also a difference between a full stop and a comma, but neither allow you have three consecutive points beginning with the word "and".

Like I said, someone who continues to look at the hardware from a perspective that is biased towards the PC. Dismissing a game of chess by using the rules of checkers, as it were.
You can hardly be biased towards the PC, as top end PC's are much more capable in performance. What the developer was saying about Killzone and its usage of the PS3's hardware was true, developers need time to work out all the little tricks with a 'new' console like the PS3. This is why you have such long console generations.

At the end of the day the one thing that ensures a PS3 will be able, to a degree, to keep up with PC games graphics is that it isn't running a large OS. It is built from the ground up for gaming.

World of Warcraft demands a lot of game time, requires you to log on at set times every week if you want to see raid content. MMORPGs are to me, the definition of hardcore. In order to be the best, you need to have no life. Also games like Starcraft (considered a sport in South Korea) and Counter-Strike, have achieved competition status that no console game ever has.

Consoles can sport pretty graphics. They can have top notch single player games, hell they can even have decent multi-player. PC's have all these things, and a lot more.

Edit: Woops forget about the topic...

As a student who is working towards being a games programmer, I can say this is awesome.
Its things like this that are really going to help new developers start up, the more the big companies help out the little guys, the better it is for everyone.
 

Kazturkey

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
One of the lowest quality fanboy rants I've ever seen
Grammar. Learn to use it. There is also a difference between a full stop and a comma, but neither allow you have three consecutive points beginning with the word "and".

Someone who continues to look at the hardware from a perspective that is biased towards the PC, in that the way the PC is set up is the only way to measure it. Dismissing a game of chess by using the rules of checkers, as it were.
Indigo, PC Hardware already surpasses that of the PS3. Just get over it. His grammar notwithstanding, that other guy was, in fact, right.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
Labyrinth said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
"Hardcore" isn't a demographic for consoles. What are you talking about?
Careful. Indigo might hear you.
who cares. if he thinks that a ps3 is more hardcore than PC he is clearly in the wrong and a post count of over 9000 can't prove him right.

BTW "Wordsmith Extraordinaire" great title
Stop living in the past. Over half of the revenue made on PC games last year came directly from World Of Warcraft - one of the most casual experiences there is. That doesn't say "hardcore gamers choice platform".

Plus, the Ps3 has God Of War III and whatever the hell Team Ico are doing. You may begin sucking it now.
Oh, I see - "World of Warcraft is all PC gaming has!" is your argument? By the same token I could say "PS3 only has MGS" but it wouldn't be true.

I'll just go back to playing Battlefield 2, Team Fortress, all the flash games that millions play in their working lunches, Empire Total war, etc etc
 

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What else do you want from sony? A couple rooms on a high tower, some playboy bunnies, pizza hut all day long and some greenies on your bank acc to support your develepment?

SURE it has to be play3 only. Or else pay yourself the production and sell to whoever you want.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Jumplion said:
The developer then creates X-ball Deluxe, where they just add a little extra content and call it a new game. They then release the game on Wiiware or XBLA. Now, the developer holds the rights, and are able to make sequels where they want. But, its still a raging dick move.
I would assume that there is some clause in the contract that would prevent doing somethng like that.
 
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It's a very good idea by Sony. Game developers are really feeling the pinch with the Global Economic Crisis and appealing to their hip-pocket may serve them well. I know the game company my brother works for is looking for funding for their next game and they aren't the only ones.