Sony Might Owe Canada $1 Billion Over PSN Attack

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HankMan said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
HankMan said:
"If you can't trust a huge multi-national corporation like Sony to protect your private information, who can you trust,"
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Loony!
Aye, cause we're never heard that one before.

"Take me home to the great white north city where the beer is cheap and poutine is greasy. OH WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME!!!!"

EDIT: THE FUCK!? Poutine isn't in my spelling correction list! It comes up as a spelling error!
Well isn't a French word? I'm pretty sure escapist spell check only recognizes English.
I think Poutine is like Häagen-Dazs... Doesn't actually have a definition, it's just a neat word that was created to call something.

Poutine is actually just the name of the dish, it doesn't mean anything
 

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I was wondering where the doctor evil picture was going to come into it.

Comments do not let me down :p
 

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Why don't people just cancel their cards and get new ones. Close their bank accounts and open new ones. Is it a hassle, sure. It's not like Sony wanted your information to get stolen though.

No, nope. I'd rather get in on a class action lawsuit and get some money.

Lawyers.
 

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As if this lawsuit will even go through. Any half-assed lawyer can prove that Sony is not the criminal here. And Sony is already taking steps to make it up to every single customer with free stuff. I don't understand how even a single Sony customer can feel angry over this. No security system in the world is uncrackable. If someone really wants in there, then by god, they will. And I very highly doubt that Sony made is easy for hackers to get in there. I'm going to continue to use Sony products and I will continue to give the company my full trust.
 

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Stupid, Sony owe very little to the victims, it wasn't their fault that they got hacked by a source that was clearly always 2 steps ahead of them. They had no power over it at all. They are giving you gifts for when PSN starts back up, and they've given an apology. That is all Sony need.

Yes this breach was incredibly huge and damaging. But PSN owes everyone very little. The fact that they've worked 24/7 to get everything put straight, only to be hacked again is commitment enough for me.
 

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randomrob said:
Is that billion in Canadian dollars or American ones?
Sony better hope its in American dollars seeing as how the Canadian dollar has been stronger then the USD for months now
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
YES! Let's sue the corporation, because that'll always fix the problem! /sarcasm

Come on people, since when does suing the pants off someone ever fix an issue?
It's not about fixing the issue it's about getting reparation for Sony's massive fuck up. Since when has suing been about fixing things?

I now have to go through the added hassle of closing down my cards, changing any accounts that may have used those cards, be broke for the next week while I wait for my account get fixed, run extra credit reports, pay someone to monitor it... get it? time = money, it's not about getting some pr statement about how the new psn network is totally secure this time and it will never happen again, which is all we would get if not for the suits popping up.
 

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I approve of this. Sony's failure to protect personal details of it's clientsand they're going to pay for it.
 

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randomrob said:
Is that billion in Canadian dollars or American ones?
Canadian I believe.

I don't really care about this because I don't have a PSN account, but I was planning on setting one up though.
 

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Loonerinoes said:
"If you can't trust a huge multi-national corporation like Sony to protect your private information, who can you trust,"

I wonder when people will realize George Carlin's words of wisdom about such organizations.

"They don't give a shit about you! AT ALL! AT ALL! AT ALL!"

This, a million times, and I'm Canadian and a PS3 owner.
 

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Cry Wolf said:
I approve of this. Sony's failure to protect personal details of it's clientsand they're going to pay for it.
That is bullshit, complete bullshit, the hackers are the ones who should pay, not Sony. Trying to blame Sony for it is such a cop-out and show's how ignorant people truly are
 

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Richard Allen said:
It's not about fixing the issue it's about getting reparation for Sony's massive fuck up. Since when has suing been about fixing things?

I now have to go through the added hassle of closing down my cards, changing any accounts that may have used those cards, be broke for the next week while I wait for my account get fixed, run extra credit reports, pay someone to monitor it... get it? time = money, it's not about getting some pr statement about how the new psn network is totally secure this time and it will never happen again, which is all we would get if not for the suits popping up.
You're complaining about this to someone who has actually has been hit with identity theft so you're getting no sympathy from me.
It's called life, and sometimes bad things happen and you just have to deal with it.
Class action lawsuits like this are a joke only created for people who want to get an easy buck outta life.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Cry Wolf said:
I approve of this. Sony's failure to protect personal details of it's clientsand they're going to pay for it.
That is bullshit, complete bullshit, the hackers are the ones who should pay, not Sony. Trying to blame Sony for it is such a cop-out and show's how ignorant people truly are
Yes sony clearly designed the network well and was great at protecting our details.... oh that's not the case? You mean they stored much of it unencrypted? I see, well clearly they wouldn't go and do something like putting the master key for their entire network on every machine they sell... oh wait they did that too. Yes clearly we are truly ignorant, asking for basic protection of our info. So far the only thing I have seen them do was removed my features and I mean I guess that worked right? Oh no, it didn't, so now we're just left over with a bunch of screwed over people, yea we're ignorant all right.
 

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Richard Allen said:
artanis_neravar said:
Cry Wolf said:
I approve of this. Sony's failure to protect personal details of it's clientsand they're going to pay for it.
That is bullshit, complete bullshit, the hackers are the ones who should pay, not Sony. Trying to blame Sony for it is such a cop-out and show's how ignorant people truly are
Yes sony clearly designed the network well and was great at protecting our details.... oh that's not the case? You mean they stored much of it unencrypted? I see, well clearly they wouldn't go and do something like putting the master key for their entire network on every machine they sell... oh wait they did that too. Yes clearly we are truly ignorant, asking for basic protection of our info. So far the only thing I have seen them do was removed my features and I mean I guess that worked right? Oh no, it didn't, so now we're just left over with a bunch of screwed over people, yea we're ignorant all right.
Considering at the time of the attack Sony was fighting of massive DDoS attack starting before, and ending after the PSN hacking. and the fact that no matter how sophisticated and well designed a security system is, it can always be hacked. And the fat that Sony did not wake up one day and say let's screw over our customers. Yes you are ignorant and you are focusing all the blame on someone you can see. Your information was well protected, Hackers are just better than the programmers. The Hackers stole the data, the hackers commit a crime, and the hackers are the ones who sold the data.
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
YES! Let's sue the corporation, because that'll always fix the problem! /sarcasm

Come on people, since when does suing the pants off someone ever fix an issue?
Oh come on, didn't you know? Suing makes everything better and fixes every problem out there!

OT: Jesus Christ that's a lot of money! One billion dollars for damages? Damages?! I call shenanigans, how does covering your ass until you get a new card be considered damages?

And suing Sony over this isn't helping anything, suing them indirecting hurts us, the consumer who also happen to be victims of this. Thanks a lot you soulless greedy bastards.
 

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Wait. What? We're suing them? Why? I just want PSN back up and running. But I guess someone has to fill the deficit....*cough*
 

Richard Allen

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
Richard Allen said:
It's not about fixing the issue it's about getting reparation for Sony's massive fuck up. Since when has suing been about fixing things?

I now have to go through the added hassle of closing down my cards, changing any accounts that may have used those cards, be broke for the next week while I wait for my account get fixed, run extra credit reports, pay someone to monitor it... get it? time = money, it's not about getting some pr statement about how the new psn network is totally secure this time and it will never happen again, which is all we would get if not for the suits popping up.
You're complaining about this to someone who has actually has been hit with identity theft so you're getting no sympathy from me.
It's called life, and sometimes bad things happen and you just have to deal with it.
Class action lawsuits like this are a joke only created for people who want to get an easy buck outta life.
Simply put, sony has a responsibility on both the civil and criminal realm of things (At least here in the usa but it seems other countries are stepping up) to make a resonable effort to secure our data and INFORM us when that breach has happened.

So 1)Sony stored much of our info in clear text. Well that's pretty unreasonable.
2)Sony then left us in the dark for 6 days and didn't inform people, well that's money gone from peoples wallets, banks then have to pay that back to customers, so another actually cost.
3)We find out that Sony basically put a fucking root key on every single machine it sold AND knew about the software vulnerability but still didn't fix it.

Yes we are all clearly out of line, just looking for a free buck and Sony bares no responsibility in the absolute inadequacy of protecting our data, not to mention how they painted a bulls-eye on themselves in the first place by screwing over customers.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Cry Wolf said:
I approve of this. Sony's failed to protect personal details of its clients and they're going to pay for it.
That is bullshit, complete bullshit, the hackers are the ones who should pay, not Sony. Trying to blame Sony for it is such a cop-out and show's how ignorant people truly are
You think too highly of yourself if you're dismissing people as ignorant for disagreeing with you. What you have to realise as is I never said the hackers shouldn't pay, but Sony should as well given it's clear negligence in this situation. Once that data's out there, it's next to impossible to retrieve and having to change everything on account of the failure of a mega corporation is bullshit. Anyway, Zannah said it better than I:

Zannah said:
If a bank is robbed, they have to stand up for the damage they didn't prevent, and "the robbers were really good" is no excuse. Sony fucked up, and they have to take responsibility for loosing something they were entrusted with, no matter if it was their fault.
 

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Surely suing should only come into play if money is actually stolen of people, not just suspected.

All this legal action now feels more smash and grab than the actual hack on Sony.