Sony on DSi: Still for 12 Year-Olds

[darthzew]

I have two friends who have DSs. One is an unrelenting Nintendo fanboy. The other is a Korean girl (if you know anything about that stereotype, you'll know what I mean). Both of these are my age. I'm a senior in high school.

Now, when I go down to the seventh grade room (which is where I have study hall), I see so many damn DSs. It's ridiculous. There's less than thirty kids per class at my school and there are at least fifteen DSs in that room just sitting in their desks. So, yes, the DS is for twelve year olds.

I like having study hall there because I get a free game of Pokemon every now and then. I even caught kid asking another one "Have you ever had your Pokemon magically level up when you weren't looking?" I listened in and it turns out that he thinks that simply leaving your DS on will make your Pokemon gain EXP. Retard, I leveled up your Pokemon.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

Problem with the "casual" market is that many people generalize the "casual" market as people who don't play games that often, otherwise known as the Grandmas/pas, babys, parents, and alot of other people. This is the stereotype that Nintendo has, no matter how many "hardcore" games there are for it. It's the exact opposite for the PSP ironically.

PS I'm just afraid that my message box will get overcrowded, but I could easily turn the option off.

Wait, wait... um, Jumplion, I think we've done something wrong here... I'm saying that Nintendo's target is the casual market (which is made up of parents, kiddies, grandparents, like you said) not just under-12s... and you seem to agree with me.

I'm not arguing that Nintendo has not got a stereotype for the casual market (which we seem to agree one), but that this statement is just this Sony rep trying to justify why the PSP is the better hand-held, regardless of sales.

PS: I generally delete my messages as soon as I get them, so I don't think that I'll b affected by this too much.

Sooo....yeah, we're basically agreeing to agree? Lol, this reminds me when me and my friend were arguing intensely about something which turned out to be the same thing we were debating. It was an awkward moment.

It sounds like hes saying...: "oh yeah well uhh...they suck and stuff....take that superior marketing and development team."

Wait wait...um (see what I did there?) I don't see that. He's saying the DSi will sell well regardless of the stereotype, how is that saying "they suck!"?

He seems to be belittling them by saying that their handheld is only for children.

 

[Jumplion]

The DS lite was obviously very successful. Will DSi do well with [the DS's] demographic? It probably will. Will it be a product that expands their user base [beyond] under 12? I'm not sure."

It's a common Nintendo stereotype, what's the problem here? He's not saying it's only for 12-year-olds, he's saying will it expand the user-base of the stereotypical (admitedly, I put in stereotypical in for him) 12 year old demographic.

Besides, he complimented them by saying it will sell well anyway. You guys are exaggerating what he's saying.

 

[BBLIZZARD]

Sony could learn something from Nintendo, like fun games and innovative consoles sell better than good graphics and over-pricing.

i have a friend who's a die-hard Sony fanboy and even he plays DS over a PSP.

 

[Jumplion]

Sony could learn something from Nintendo, like fun games and innovative consoles sell better than good graphics and over-pricing.

i have a friend who's a die-hard Sony fanboy and even he plays DS over a PSP.

Likewise, Nintendo could learn something from Sony like, I dunno, putting some effort into making their games different instead of remakes with slight changes.

As I recall from Ballptpentheif long long ago, many Sony games are extremely underrated and overlooked as amazing titles. Okami, Shadow of the Collosus, Ico, Jak and Daxter/Ratchet and Clank, and many more are amazing games yet people forget about them and say Sony doesn't "innovate" or do anything "new".

But I'm seriously starting to go dangerously close to a war, so no more posting in this thread for me anymore!

 

[AceDiamond]

Sony could learn something from Nintendo, like fun games and innovative consoles sell better than good graphics and over-pricing.

i have a friend who's a die-hard Sony fanboy and even he plays DS over a PSP.

Likewise, Nintendo could learn something from Sony like, I dunno, putting some effort into making their games different instead of remakes with slight changes.

The massive amounts of sales and money lead to a "if it ain't broke why fix it" sort of theory there.

 

[Lvl 64 Klutz]

I think he's just bitter because Sony's handheld is the captain of the failboat.

I don't know about that, the handheld failboat is a mighty ship, although yes, I believe we won't find the PSP merely swabbing the decks.

 

[Aardvark Soup]

He probably says this because he finds it fun to watch massive forum flamewars, which is probably about to start, so I'm out of here.

 

[L.B. Jeffries]

It's the freaking nub, man. The stylus is the superior method for steering in 3-D environments on a handheld.

 

[Galletea]

I love my DS and can't wait for the DSi. (22)

It seems all of my friends my age have one aswell.

As do I (also 22) but my fave game atm is digimon and thats import so I'm not getting the DSi

 

[oobee]

nintendo knows marketing despite what a lot of people think. they've always had a strong focus on handhelds and in so far as n64 and GC goes promotion was crap yes but it was always strong with GB's and will be I'd say.

 

[shatnershaman]

Are those the same 12 year olds that play Halo? It seems like that's the only demographic that plays anything.

 

[mr mcshiznit]

on a side note guys i wish that instead of him making fun of the ds demographic the PSP would just get some good content. The system itself is slick and has a fair number of good games - problem is that 3rd party support is non-exisistent. I'm 19 and own both and love my psp for its graphics and some of its platformer titles but the ds just has it smashed because of the huge number of original games. The brain ages, the pokemons, kirbys, ace wright games, mario, sony just cant beat those at the moment. It's sad really.

 

[shatnershaman]

I'm 19 and own both and love my psp for its graphics and some of its platformer titles but the ds just has it smashed because of the huge number of original games. The brain ages, the pokemons, kirbys, ace wright games, mario, sony just cant beat those at the moment. It's sad really.

Originality + Mario/Pokemon = ???

Its been the same since 1985 (New Super Mario Bros) or 1996 (Mario 64 DS/Pokemon Diamond) or 1992 (Mario Kart DS)

 

[Jumplion]

I'm 19 and own both and love my psp for its graphics and some of its platformer titles but the ds just has it smashed because of the huge number of original games. The brain ages, the pokemons, kirbys, ace wright games, mario, sony just cant beat those at the moment. It's sad really.

Originality + Mario/Pokemon = ???

Its been the same since 1985 (New Super Mario Bros) or 1996 (Mario 64 DS/Pokemon Diamond) or 1992 (Mario Kart DS)

Really, alot of games Sony makes are severely underrated and underappreciated. LoccoRocco and Patapon are two games that are highly original yet noone seems to take notice of them.

Wait, didn't I tell myself to not post in this thread? DAMNIT!

 

[SimuLord]

I'm 31 and my DS sees a lot of play every night as I wind down before bed. Doesn't matter that it's the same well-worn gaming territory I've been playing in since 1985. It's FUN. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the point of playing video games...to have fun?

 

[AceDiamond]

Look I know it may sound stupid but most of the time Nintendo adds just enough to another iteration of a franchise to make it kind of interesting. Of course it's going to be similar most of the time, that's what a franchise series is.

And yes I'm aware that there are some truly wonderful and innovative games for the PSP that got overlooked but I think the problem with that is that...well they were on the PSP which was designed for "hardcore" gamers who don't want anything that isn't safe and familiar like a GTA game or a pocket-sized God of War. That's the problem with Sony's whole spiel, in trying to be the anti-Nintendo they pretty much cut off a lot of third-party support off at the knees in my opinion.

also there's that little problem of the PSP being advertised as something more than a portable game console which is what it should've been primarily and not some sort of mutated offspring of the iPod.

 

[shatnershaman]

Really, alot of games Sony makes are severely underrated and underappreciated. LoccoRocco and Patapon are two games that are highly original yet noone seems to take notice of them.

Wait, didn't I tell myself to not post in this thread? DAMNIT!

Not really they both got good reviews and PATAPON got a few really high scores and they sold like hot cakes in Japan.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

I'm not saying the PSP is fail. Just that mocking the DS is silly when it's clearly large and in charge.