Oh my glob! It's sounding more like possible Limited Editon PS4 ideas!!RaikuFA said:Just picture it... All PS4s with wigs based off of all the princesses.FPLOON said:...Why do I NOW want to see that happen? DAMMIT! *locks themselves in their own ice palace*RaikuFA said:Better than "Disney Princesses reimagined as PS4's."
I have that same obsession only on the handheld side of things, mostly...Whatislove said:Every console I own is a limited edition version, I have a weird obsession with it.
I think Sony just want to kick Microsoft in the change purse on the foreign market.OrokuSaki said:why is it on a limited edition game system?
It's now the third most successful film ever in the country, behind only Titanic and Spirited Away.freakonaleash said:So its been number one each week in Japan for 16 weeks? How is that even possible?
Well, if you want the long version, there's an extensive essay on it here [https://medium.com/@directordanic/the-problem-with-false-feminism-7c0bbc7252ef].Neronium said:Most problematic? How? It's won a quite a few awards since being released, and it is also the largest grossing animated film of all time, passing the old owner of that title Toy Story 3. I don't think that makes it problematic in the slightest from a financial standpoint, which is all Disney really cares about in the long run.Pedro The Hutt said:Oh sure, make a special PS4 out of one Disney's most problematic films in recent years why won't you...
The main protagonist and one of the antagonists(until she gets off scot-free and becomes a protagonist) are women, men don't save the women, the main issue is resolved by women, women aren't married off to men in the end and that all of this supposedly breaks Disney's usual pattern for princess movies. Also, the theme song is quite popular.Zontar said:What is it about this movie? I watched it recently and honestly given what everyone said about it I'm not impressed. Yes it's a decent, well made movie, but what was so spectacular about it? I just don't get it. Maybe it's just me having read far to many stories which are subversions of traditional tropes to be impressed by its use.
She does stop running at the end. If the characters were perfect (and thus never able to develop), then there wouldn't even be able to be a plot.Pedro The Hutt said:The short version is that Elsa nor Anna are not characters you'd want your daughters to look up to. Both are showing signs of schizophrenia to different degrees, one of them has as a core character trait that she runs away from her troubles and never stops running and at no point chooses to take responsibility for her own actions.
Because trying to help a sister that is going through a rough time is equivalent to spousal abuse.The other on the flipside is like the spouse of an alcoholic who keeps returning to the source of her trouble no matter how often she gets hurt.
I don't think Stretch Armstrong could make that big of a stretch.Along with some implications amongst all three of the protagonists that orphans are to some extent always "damaged goods".
Please tell me when this happened. Honestly, your post makes it sound like you didn't even see the movie and just read about it from that blog you posted.And then there is the fact that the film tried to pass off an almost fulfilled unconsented marriage as a good thing.
She only stops running because she was stopped in her tracks, not because she had any intention of stopping evading her issues and her own messes. Big difference. Elsa is -not- someone you want your daughters to look up to.And Man said:She does stop running at the end. If the characters were perfect (and thus never able to develop), then there wouldn't even be able to be a plot.
She literally, physically hurt her twice in the course of potentially as little as a few days. There are times where just cutting familial bonds is the smarter choice. And funny you'd mention that, I'm sure there are tons of abused housewives who say that their husbands are just going through a rough time and that we need to understand.Because trying to help a sister that is going through a rough time is equivalent to spousal abuse.
You're telling me that Elsa, Anna or Kristoff are people who are "all there" in their heads? They're all orphans and all have got some major issues going on, Elsa's aforementioned evasive behaviour, Anna literally being broken to the point she's to her own admission started conversations with paintings and being so starved for attention she'd literally want to hook up with anyone who'd give her that without a second thought and Kristoff is so far gone he's having conversations with himself by proxy of a reindeer. And they're all orphans, hm~I don't think Stretch Armstrong could make that big of a stretch.Along with some implications amongst all three of the protagonists that orphans are to some extent always "damaged goods".
The trolls, silly, they had quite literally roped Kristoff (who I might add, she can't have known for more than a few days, making the whole thing deeply ironic) and Anna into a wedding ceremony that would've been fulfilled against both of their wills if it weren't for Anna basically getting a heart attack during the middle of this little routine where the film makers clearly wanted us to side with the trolls their idea.Please tell me when this happened. Honestly, your post makes it sound like you didn't even see the movie and just read about it from that blog you posted.And then there is the fact that the film tried to pass off an almost fulfilled unconsented marriage as a good thing.
Point taken.Pedro The Hutt said:She only stops running because she was stopped in her tracks, not because she had any intention of stopping evading her issues and her own messes. Big difference. Elsa is -not- someone you want your daughters to look up to.
I see your point, but I still feel that comparing it to spousal abuse is too extreme. I'd say Elsa's situation is accidental, done out of fear and still not having full control over her powers, while the spousal abuse situation involves abuse of a mind altering substance.She literally, physically hurt her twice in the course of potentially as little as a few days. There are times where just cutting familial bonds is the smarter choice. And funny you'd mention that, I'm sure there are tons of abused housewives who say that their husbands are just going through a rough time and that we need to understand.
Elsa's behavior is pretty much because of the way her parents raised her in regards to her powers, and orphans are a pretty common trope. Stating that their behavior is because they're orphans is a pretty big stretch.You're telling me that Elsa, Anna or Kristoff are people who are "all there" in their heads? They're all orphans and all have got some major issues going on, Elsa's aforementioned evasive behaviour, Anna literally being broken to the point she's to her own admission started conversations with paintings and being so starved for attention she'd literally want to hook up with anyone who'd give her that without a second thought and Kristoff is so far gone he's having conversations with himself by proxy of a reindeer. And they're all orphans, hm~
Completely forgot about that part of the movie, my bad.The trolls, silly, they had quite literally roped Kristoff (who I might add, she can't have known for more than a few days, making the whole thing deeply ironic) and Anna into a wedding ceremony that would've been fulfilled against both of their wills if it weren't for Anna basically getting a heart attack during the middle of this little routine where the film makers clearly wanted us to side with the trolls their idea.
It's pretty damn long, so yeah, I only skimmed it. I was wrong on multiple accounts. I saw some statements that I thought were fairly ridiculous (the spousal abuse one and the orphans are "damaged goods" one) and did more or less blindly defend the rest of the movie. I apologize.And honestly, your post makes it sound like you didn't even read the essay and instead are blindly defending the film. Plus if you had bothered to ask further you'd find that I don't agree with all of her points, but the majority are hard to deny, if you ask me.