Okay Anon, the group that's soiled your good name is out in the open. Reclaim your Hap-hazard Batsack mantle from this Jean Paul Valley or just admit your a poor Batman.
Am I the only one that is fucking terrified by the realization that people are suggesting that someone should give in to terrorist demands if they're attacked enough?Therumancer said:As I've said before, I think Sony could end this very simply, all it has to do is publically apologize, restore the other OS functionality, and concede that people own the products they pay for. Now I understand why a massive Godzilla-like corperation doesn't want to do those things, and what is at stake, but really that's pretty much what is going to end this.
Funny, I was thinking this same thing, since the articles I read about the incident mentioned that Sony stock is down ~27% since the start of the new year. I wish I had some liquid capital to invest in them, since I have faith that no matter the end result of their beefed-up security (or not), Sony will recover.Sovereignty said:Hmm am I the only one thinking this is some sort of mastermind conspiracy to drive down Sony's stock temporarily, so that someone with some investment capital can buy it up for dirt cheap?
This is obviously going to hurt the brand. But it's highly unlikely sony wont recover.
Actually your laziness has kept you from realizing that they don't make you pay for PSN, as well as the fact that it was a completely separate division (Sony Pictures) that was hacked.Hawk eye1466 said:Thank God my PS3 hasn't been on since before they made you start paying for PSN.
My lazyness has saved me once again!
Honestly at this point I think I should just use my PS3 as a paper weight its not going to be turned on till infamous 2 comes out anyway and even then odds are good I'm not even going to use the online.
I mean when they introduced premium service but it really doesn't matter I'm just glad I didn't get my personal info stolen (hopefully)mojodamm said:Actually your laziness has kept you from realizing that they don't make you pay for PSN, as well as the fact that it was a completely separate division (Sony Pictures) that was hacked.Hawk eye1466 said:Thank God my PS3 hasn't been on since before they made you start paying for PSN.
My lazyness has saved me once again!
Honestly at this point I think I should just use my PS3 as a paper weight its not going to be turned on till infamous 2 comes out anyway and even then odds are good I'm not even going to use the online.
Criminal is a very broad term. With it you could tar the likes of George Washington, Nelson Mandela, Ted Kaczynski, and Jeffrey Dahmer all with the same brush.Shycte said:Criminals with cause are still criminals.
I think you underestimate the amount of knowledge the public has about hacking into websites... If the group wanted to make sure everyone knew this was really simple then they sure as hell aren't doing a good job at it by saying it's SQL Injection, when you take into account the fact that your average joe probably thinks an SQL injection is like hacking into the fucking pentagon. This was not a PR strategy to discredit Sony, it was some hackers claiming responsibility for a hack and that's it.Sikratua said:That comment has already been shown to be bullshit multiple times in this thread. If you read this thread, you will see that most of the comments fall into one of two catagories.Doxcology said:Oh for fucks sake, I'll say it again and maybe this will be put to rest. THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE HACKERS TO LIE ABOUT THEIR METHODS!
1: "These hackers suck and should go to jail."
2: "Sony sucks, and so does their security."
Since the only stated reason for this attack was to discredit Sony, it would benefit the hackers to claim that it was dirt simple to perform this hack. Let's put this into a different kind of attack. When a couple kids get into a fight in the playground, how often does the winner say "I got some of the crap kicked out of me, but I still won?" It's human nature to try to discredit other people, because doing so brings them down to a lower level. That's exactly what these guys intended to do with Sony. So, their stated intent gives them an extremely good reason to lie about the defenses that Sony mustered.
So, just to reiterate: The comment I quoted above is bullshit. Can we move on, please?
Trust, I'm in the same boat with the PSN hack, but I also realize that being online means balancing risk with reward, and I'd rather continue using the capabilities offered by my PS3 than not.Hawk eye1466 said:I mean when they introduced premium service but it really doesn't matter I'm just glad I didn't get my personal info stolen (hopefully)mojodamm said:Actually your laziness has kept you from realizing that they don't make you pay for PSN, as well as the fact that it was a completely separate division (Sony Pictures) that was hacked.Hawk eye1466 said:Thank God my PS3 hasn't been on since before they made you start paying for PSN.
My lazyness has saved me once again!
Honestly at this point I think I should just use my PS3 as a paper weight its not going to be turned on till infamous 2 comes out anyway and even then odds are good I'm not even going to use the online.
I agree but I never used my PS3 for anything other than exclusives anyway so there was no real reason to use the online and the hack just made it more pointless to me to bother using it. I mostly play Xbox live so I would still use that if it was hacked just because I use it more. But you are right it's all about weighing risk and reward.mojodamm said:Trust, I'm in the same boat with the PSN hack, but I also realize that being online means balancing risk with reward, and I'd rather continue using the capabilities offered by my PS3 than not.Hawk eye1466 said:I mean when they introduced premium service but it really doesn't matter I'm just glad I didn't get my personal info stolen (hopefully)mojodamm said:Actually your laziness has kept you from realizing that they don't make you pay for PSN, as well as the fact that it was a completely separate division (Sony Pictures) that was hacked.Hawk eye1466 said:Thank God my PS3 hasn't been on since before they made you start paying for PSN.
My lazyness has saved me once again!
Honestly at this point I think I should just use my PS3 as a paper weight its not going to be turned on till infamous 2 comes out anyway and even then odds are good I'm not even going to use the online.
no, people are criminals when they break a law. Crime does not necessarily have anything to do with moralityWolfy2449 said:Ppl are criminals when they do something that is bad for the entire world and not becauseForum_Name said:Criminal is a very broad term. With it you could tar the likes of George Washington, Nelson Mandela, Ted Kaczynski, and Jeffrey Dahmer all with the same brush.Shycte said:Criminals with cause are still criminals.
In places like the US with increasing bodies of criminal law, there's also a good chance that many citizens subject to those laws are criminals and don't even know it.
My point is that people should be cautious about reading anything more into the term than its' most basic definition.
Laws that have been created by humans say its wrong
You cant feel better about youself now that you cant play games aka denial of fun attack
I can even justify murder easily, especially at the current state of earth... If ppl werent stupid enough to get stuck with the idea of "good" such things wouldnt seem so strange
Lesson: dont get effing stuck to thinks that are trivial and meaningless in the long run laik gramar/"good"/sundays as no-work days
p.s. the common sense most humans talk about is the same sense that said the earth is a square...