Sooo batman ...

[idodo35]

well... its batman... and if not for anything else... this:

but now seriosly just go watch the movies or read a comic book (id recomand batman: hush) and then you will be with us and the dark (knight's) side!

 

[mental_looney]

Batman has no powers but chooses to fight crime in the best way he can and refuses to restore to killing people, he's a strong character that shows if you are smarter than other people who may be bigger and much much stronger than you that you can beat them.

He shoes you can rise above past hardships and grief and anyone can become a hero they don't have to be a dick about it like tony start or born that way like superman.

 

[KrossBillNye]

Instead of a billionaire who got that batarang thing right first time, it flew like a bad paper plane or his grappling hook snapped mid ascent making him fall on his ass, maybe a smoke bomb failed and made him look silly as he tried to escape.

A guy who is perfect getting everything right and sounding like a smug douche all the time is boring.

Again, that does happen. In Batman: Year One by Frank Miller he goes up against some common thugs and almost gets himself killed. It's a great story that shows his mistakes and how quick he is to learn from them.
Also the film you describes, with Freeze and Ivy, is Batman & Robin, which is one of the worst films of all time. I'm so sorry you had to see that.
Batman also puts his billionaire status to good use, being a philanthropist.

I have seen another batfilm where he was in a temple training or something but while the film was legit (as far as I was told, although thinking back...) it was just dark as fuck and I couldn't tell what was going on, so I stopped watching but it never really hooked me.

Batman and robin didn't seem THAT bad to me, kind of liked bane in it.

I think batman has the best baddies my fav being in my badges (scarecrow is second due to his name) but the actual hero sucks to me, just a douche with cash.

Bane was terrible in that film, just god-fucking-awful. Bane is a genius, in the Knightfal storyline he releases all of the inmates of Arkham to go after Bats at once in order to wear him down and then succeeds in breaking his back. It's brilliant. In the film he's some mindless, speechless goon.
The film with the temple sounds like Batman Begins and that film is brilliant, that training scene is my favourite part.

I can see your point, Yahtzee says in his AA review that Batman is always the most boring part of whatever he's in and that is true in a way; Batman is defined by the city, the cops, the villains, the crooks etc.
At the same time, his personal struggles with Catwoman, Talia Al Ghul, his past, his loneliness and his inability to trust all make him relatable, to an extent, and that's another thing that makes him rule. He's human.

I meant I liked the look of Bane, can't exactly like his personality ... he didn't have one. I read before Bane was meant to be just as smart if not smarter than batman, he is also obviously stronger, so why can't he take out the bat? It doesn't make any sense.

Bane isn't smarter than Batman. He's a genius but he's not on par with Bats. He manages to wear him down over a few weeks and deliver the finishing blow but Batman then gets replaced by Jean Paul Valley who then... look, just read the book. I have no idea why I'm trying so hard to sell you on Batman. If you wanted to know more, you'd check out some of the films or comics. If you don't like Batman then fine, fair enough.

If memory serves me Bane is one of the few Villains who used their intellect to figure out who Batman's real name was.

 

[aba1]

Punisher: Shoot everything with an M60. --> Fun but slightly sociopathic.

I actually find the punisher often works in a similar fashion to batman except he will kill rather than just defeat.

 

[Shiftygiant]

I notice a lot of people love the batman, what I don't get is why.

I know you, post a thread like this and a million "I don't like it so why should anybody like it" posts pop up. What I am asking is what skills or things he does make him so epic?

Why is he so much better than the actual superhero's or even iron man, at least that guy can fly!

Ok, he can fight but so can a million other none super hero's, he solves crimes but so did Sherlock.

Just as a side note, I haven't watched or read all that many batman things but everything seems to be "drug the civvies" rather than blow em up, whats up with that? I know there are exceptions but on the whole there is more of a drug vibe to me.

Well 2 things come to mind
1) He has no super powers so that makes him instantly relate able
2) He deals with the death in a positive manner by improving his life and the life of others, refusing to wallow in self pity

those 2 things make him a great super hero

Damn strait

 

[ComicsAreWeird]

The Midnighter's more my kind of guy...

This. Midnighter is Batman on steroids.

 

[philzibit]

He has the best rouges gallery. Plus, as everyone has already stated, Batman is possible. When I watched The Dark Knight, when it comes to the point where the military gets involved and the city is being evacuated, that's when it hit me that this is what would more than likely happen in a real world situation. Of course, it is silly that it would be carried out in a man wearing wacky clown make-up, but still.

Plus...Kiss From A Rose.

 

[Cowabungaa]

I like his style. I like his style a lot.

Batman's weapon is fear, intimidation. It's why playing Arkham Asylum/City is so damn amazing; you start off against a group of armed thugs, silently pick them off one by one, and with every thug you pick off you see the heart rate of the remaining ones rise. You see them jitter, you see them shiver, you see them crawl about nervously like helpless little puppies.

And there you are, watching them from a dark corner, feeding on their fear, on their helplessness.

[HEADING=1]MUAHAHAHA!!![/HEADING]

And that is awesome.

 

[AVATAR_RAGE]

I notice a lot of people love the batman, what I don't get is why.

I know you, post a thread like this and a million "I don't like it so why should anybody like it" posts pop up. What I am asking is what skills or things he does make him so epic?

Why is he so much better than the actual superhero's or even iron man, at least that guy can fly!

Ok, he can fight but so can a million other none super hero's, he solves crimes but so did Sherlock.

Just as a side note, I haven't watched or read all that many batman things but everything seems to be "drug the civvies" rather than blow em up, whats up with that? I know there are exceptions but on the whole there is more of a drug vibe to me.

Yep he basically is Sherlock Holmes but with a mask and cape. Though the point of Batman is that unlike most super heroes he has no powers so he solves his problems and beats villains that usually have the upper hand with his brain not his brawn, never slipping down to their level though and never taking a life.

 

[omega 616]

I notice a lot of people love the batman, what I don't get is why.

I know you, post a thread like this and a million "I don't like it so why should anybody like it" posts pop up. What I am asking is what skills or things he does make him so epic?

Why is he so much better than the actual superhero's or even iron man, at least that guy can fly!

Ok, he can fight but so can a million other none super hero's, he solves crimes but so did Sherlock.

Just as a side note, I haven't watched or read all that many batman things but everything seems to be "drug the civvies" rather than blow em up, whats up with that? I know there are exceptions but on the whole there is more of a drug vibe to me.

Yep he basically is Sherlock Holmes but with a mask and cape. Though the point of Batman is that unlike most super heroes he has no powers so he solves his problems and beats villains that usually have the upper hand with his brain not his brawn, never slipping down to their level though and never taking a life.

Loads of people say that "he is oh so smart" and "he uses brain not brawn" but I see him do A LOT more punching and kicking than chess games and cutting his opponents down with biting remarks about there mums.

What I am trying to say is, from what I have seen he is less Agent 47 and more Rambo. Instead of just sneaking in, taking out the big bad (scarecrow for example) and sneaking out, he spends most of his time putting his dukes up with thugs and lackies.

He is on the detective level of captain obvious. Though like I have said, I haven't seen much of him

 

[IKSA]

1.Because he does not have superpowers and he still can kick crap out of people.
2.He uses stealth.
3.He looks cool unlike other superheros. (Well spiderman looks kinda cool too)

 

[Davih]

Batman is equal to Ironman. They're both billionaire's who have devoted their money to help others after experiencing something traumatic. In batman's case that was seeing his parents get murdered and in Ironman's case that was being tortured by terrorists.
They are both human. They are not superheroes, they are just heroes. You can relate to them because they are human.

 

[SilentCom]

Why do people like Chuck Norris or other internet memes? There's your answer.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

I could beat up 50 lackeys. It's unlikely, and I don't have the skills now, but as a child (which is when it matters) I knew that it was physically possible to be batman. As an adult I have other priorities, but I can still learn to fight 50 guys. It'd just be really hard.

Maybe in comic/film land where people wait there turn to attack you, unless you are fully prepared to attack more than one. In real life they would just zerg you and pummel you, even 10 beer swilling bar brawlers with no real skill would take out a single professional fighter

I don't think you're understanding this properly. Of course he couldn't. Not now, anyway. Most likely, there's no one alive who is currently able to fight against Batman-level odds.

But Batman is what we all could be, theoretically, if we obsessively dedicated our lives to being really smart, really wealthy, and really athletic, then used those advantages to fight crime.

It's a fun fantasy, and slightly more in the realm of plausibility than most superheroes.

Also, Batman is just cool. Everything that makes someone cool, the Bat has got in spades.

 

[omega 616]

I could beat up 50 lackeys. It's unlikely, and I don't have the skills now, but as a child (which is when it matters) I knew that it was physically possible to be batman. As an adult I have other priorities, but I can still learn to fight 50 guys. It'd just be really hard.

Maybe in comic/film land where people wait there turn to attack you, unless you are fully prepared to attack more than one. In real life they would just zerg you and pummel you, even 10 beer swilling bar brawlers with no real skill would take out a single professional fighter

I don't think you're understanding this properly. Of course he couldn't. Not now, anyway. Most likely, there's no one alive who is currently able to fight against Batman-level odds.

But Batman is what we all could be, theoretically, if we obsessively dedicated our lives to being really smart, really wealthy, and really athletic, then used those advantages to fight crime.

It's a fun fantasy, and slightly more in the realm of plausibility than most superheroes.

Also, Batman is just cool. Everything that makes someone cool, the Bat has got in spades.

What? We were talking about a real life person beating off (not the sexual one!) 50 people by his lonesome ... not batman.

Nobody could beat 50 guys at once, I don't care if you are the best fighter in the world, Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee, in a real life situation 1 person couldn't take 50. There is no "most likely" about it. It is like a tower defense game you can't win, just how many rounds you can go ... after so long you get overwhelmed.

Batman is as cool as every other douche with a gravely voice, he isn't. Ok, I know I am saying an opinion as fact but so did you.

 

[dickywebster]

He could actually happen, which isnt that common in comics and to be honest i prefer his villans.

 

[IKSA]

I could beat up 50 lackeys. It's unlikely, and I don't have the skills now, but as a child (which is when it matters) I knew that it was physically possible to be batman. As an adult I have other priorities, but I can still learn to fight 50 guys. It'd just be really hard.

Maybe in comic/film land where people wait there turn to attack you, unless you are fully prepared to attack more than one. In real life they would just zerg you and pummel you, even 10 beer swilling bar brawlers with no real skill would take out a single professional fighter

I won 7 bullys alone when I was kid and all training I had was just little bit karate...

 

[Asita]

To echo the sentiments of many before me, the fact that he lacks powers definitely has something to do with it. For starters, it makes for a nice change of pace from the other big names. Compare Batman for instance to the other main members of the Justice League. You've got god-mode incarnate Superman (who if memory serves was actually acknowledged as such in-universe, with Wonder Woman (who is basically Superman-lite) noting that Supes was the deciding factors in MANY League activities), Wonder Woman (Again: Superman-lite), "I can make anything with my mind" Green Lantern, "Around the world in 80 seconds" Flash, the shapeshifting psychic Martian Manhunter, and then Batman, whose defining 'powers' are simply that he's trained his body and mind to their peak. One could arguably claim he's simply a darker version of Captain America (and a bit less nationalistic ).

While powers can make things more visually interesting, they also tend to remove some of the danger for the protagonist. Generally speaking, the more powers they get, the harder it is for an audience to get a real sense of danger for the character. In the case of Batman, the audience can directly relate to the danger he faces, as a gun pointed in his direction is about as dangerous to him as it is to the average reader.



And what's more, Badass Normal Batman could very well be considered the most dangerous of all the heros, if only due to the fact that he has contingency plans ready for every hero on the planet if they go rogue (which became problematic when a certain villain managed to get his hands on those plans), and of course there's that video with Darkseid earlier in this thread...which contrasts rather nicely with this:


Though more to the point, if you want to know why people like Batman as a character, you'd do well to look up some of the source material. The recent Batman movies are decent (And please, don't use Batman and Robin as a litmus test), as is Batman: The Animated Series (which also had a great effect on the stories behind several members of the Rogues gallery, notably codifying Mr. Freeze's origin story and creating Harley Quinn from scratch). Or if you don't want to devote that kind of time to it, there's always TVTropes